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post #21 of 159
12/10/04 at 1:32pm
I guess rebuilding was a total waste of time. I did everything 1 line at a time instead of using scripts and I got the same problem with ifconfig.

I just went ahead and built a package from my existing binaries and installed it on my laptop and ifconfig works fine.
I'm building system daemons, logger, etc, right now, then on to gnome and other huge user packages.

-- edit --

I've got a question. Is there supposed to be a performance impact from having hyperthreading enabled in the bios when you aren't using hyperthreading?
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post #22 of 159
12/10/04 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by ledskof
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I've got a question. Is there supposed to be a performance impact from having hyperthreading enabled in the bios when you aren't using hyperthreading?
I don't have any proof to back this up, but I don't believe that this would be the case. It's kind of like running a non-SMP kernel on an SMP system. The kernel just ignores the other processors.

Other threads online have shown that to go from a HT/SMP-enabled system to a non-HT/SMP system, all you do is boot the (correctly configured) non-HT/SMP kernel and go.

Regards,

zakaluka2.
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post #23 of 159
12/13/04 at 2:50pm
As of right now I have Xorg running with the nvidia drivers.
There was a lot of kernel work to be done on this, and I was finally able to give all of that up when I tried vivid sources 2.6.10-rc3-vv_e1. No reason to patch with libata-dev-2.6 or anything.

I ran into a nasty wall when the nvidia-kernel issue came up with the EXPORT_SYMBOLS_GPL() issue. But vivid sources worked with that, my PATA drive, and resier4... so I'm past those issues.

Now I'm working on getting my resolution and HorizSync / VertRefresh set right.
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post #24 of 159
12/13/04 at 6:06pm
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Originally Posted by ledskof
As of right now I have Xorg running with the nvidia drivers.
There was a lot of kernel work to be done on this, and I was finally able to give all of that up when I tried vivid sources 2.6.10-rc3-vv_e1. No reason to patch with libata-dev-2.6 or anything.

I ran into a nasty wall when the nvidia-kernel issue came up with the EXPORT_SYMBOLS_GPL() issue. But vivid sources worked with that, my PATA drive, and resier4... so I'm past those issues.

Now I'm working on getting my resolution and HorizSync / VertRefresh set right.
Heh so far so good, would ya mind doin me a favor and postin a step by step of the workin solution if ya get time when ya find it? Itll still be a couple of months before I get mine at the earliest however I have a feelin you are starting to leave my knowledge on Linux behind a bit here(When talkin of hackin the kernel... yea I tend to stay away from that as much as I can

Feel free to keep informed.

Seablade
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post #25 of 159
12/28/04 at 12:26am
I'm not sure if you got it to boot with an SMP kernel, but thus far I have had great sucess with Gentoo, the 2.6.9r13 kernel + SMP. I found the key to get it boot was to boot with the param acpi=ht but that maybe a seperate issue from what you are having. Post any other issues you may be having and i'll see if I can match it up to myself as I have xorg running great at 1680x1050, et al. Good luck.

-- Jon
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post #26 of 159
12/30/04 at 9:51pm

Sound Driver???

Does anyone have sound working under linux on the 9860???

If so which driver/module should be used?
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post #27 of 159
1/1/05 at 1:13am
I have gotten it to work well. The sound card in the 9860 is an Realtek analog of the Intel HD Audio ICH6 7.1 cards. The current stable release of alsa-driver doesn't support this card, the development release however (1.0.8rc1) does. You can download the devel release at ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/drive...0.8rc1.tar.bz2 Extract those files, reconfigure your kernel so that only CONFIG_SOUND is set to yes (you *don't* want alsa or oss built in). Recompile and do make modules_install and install the bzImage as usual (or just use the genkernel stuff, I imagine its quite similar but I have never used it). Read the INSTALL document in alsa-driver-1.0.8rc1 for extra options for the configure script, run the ./configure script. Do a make && make install. At this point, you will need to reboot into your new kernel. Try to modprobe snd-azx and see how it goes, if your sound works, add that to your modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.x file. If it dosn't, download the ALSA Utilities and Tools devel release and install those (./configure && make && make install just like any other non-ebuild install) and use alsaconf to setup the rc script and what-not. That should do the trick for sound, if that dosn't work or you have any questions I'll be happy to help however I can. Good luck and I appologize for the typos; if any.

-- Jon
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post #28 of 159
1/1/05 at 3:29pm
Thanks g32, I now have sound working!!!

I'm running Fedora 3, and as far as I can tell the Fedora distro no longer contains the full source for the kernel. Of course I can doownload it from kernel.org, but the Fedora supplied kernel works pretty well.

I only had one small glitch with the process, one of the sound drivers in the package would not compile with the gcc that is shipped with Fedora 3, so I just told it to only configure the one sound driver I need, and everything went perfectly.

Here are the steps, they must be peformed as root.

1) Download and extract the alsa-driver tarball. Change into the directory and issue the following command:

./configure --with-cards=azx

2) issue command : make

3) issue command : make install

4) reboot
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post #29 of 159
1/2/05 at 10:54pm
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone so far.
How about the video. Any 3D support?

Alex
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post #30 of 159
1/3/05 at 12:54pm
I have been using nvidia-kernel 1.0.6629-r1, nvidia-glx 1.0.6629-r1, and nvidia-settings 1.0.6629 (all of which are masked by ~x86). With, of course, the X11 driver set to "nvidia".

-- Jon
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post #31 of 159
1/3/05 at 1:04pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by g32
I have been using nvidia-kernel 1.0.6629-r1, nvidia-glx 1.0.6629-r1, and nvidia-settings 1.0.6629 (all of which are masked by ~x86). With, of course, the X11 driver set to "nvidia".

-- Jon
Jon:
Very cool. Did you run GLXgears? If so what were the FPS values?

Alex
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post #32 of 159
1/3/05 at 5:19pm

glxgears -info

I've never run GLXGears before, however, here is the results of glxgears -info:

Code:
g32@Noel root # glxgears -info
GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS=4096/4096
GL_RENDERER   = GeForce 6800 Go/PCI/SSE2
GL_VERSION    = 1.5.2 NVIDIA 66.29
GL_VENDOR     = NVIDIA Corporation
GL_EXTENSIONS = GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_draw_buffers GL_ATI_texture_float GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_S3_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_Cg_shader GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_HP_occlusion_test GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_centroid_sample GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color GL_NV_depth_clamp GL_NV_fence GL_NV_float_buffer GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_fragment_program GL_NV_fragment_program_option GL_NV_fragment_program2 GL_NV_half_float GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_multisample_filter_hint GL_NV_occlusion_query GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_pixel_data_range GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_primitive_restart GL_NV_register_combiners GL_NV_register_combiners2 GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_compression_vtc GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_expand_normal GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_texture_shader GL_NV_texture_shader2 GL_NV_texture_shader3 GL_NV_vertex_array_range GL_NV_vertex_array_range2 GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_NV_vertex_program2 GL_NV_vertex_program2_option GL_NV_vertex_program3 GL_NVX_conditional_render GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth_texture GL_SGIX_shadow GL_SUN_slice_accum
33157 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6631.400 FPS
37178 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7435.600 FPS
25513 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5102.600 FPS
33151 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6630.200 FPS
32729 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6545.800 FPS

Seems a little....fast..but I don't know what I should be expecting. Tell me if that makes any sence.

-- Jon
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post #33 of 159
1/3/05 at 7:31pm
Thread Starter 
Jon:
This looks very good. With my Nvidia 5650 I get about 2500, so GLX accelleartion is working. Thanks, that is what I was looking for.

Alex
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post #34 of 159
1/4/05 at 1:03am
I'm running Fedora 3, with the "development" kernel 2.6.10-1.1056_FC4.

I used the instructions here to get the NVIDIA driver working under 2.6.10.

Here's my glxgears output:

$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.6.10-1.1056_FC4 (bhcompile@decompose.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.3 20041226 (Red Hat 3.4.3-11)) #1 Thu Dec 30 23:48:29 EST 2004

$ glxgears -info
GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS=4096/4096
GL_RENDERER = GeForce 6800 Go/PCI/SSE2
GL_VERSION = 1.5.2 NVIDIA 66.29
GL_VENDOR = NVIDIA Corporation
GL_EXTENSIONS = [snip...]
34565 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6913.000 FPS
36250 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7250.000 FPS
36119 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7223.800 FPS
36234 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7246.800 FPS
36205 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7241.000 FPS
36222 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7244.400 FPS
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post #35 of 159
1/4/05 at 2:27am
Heh I am curious, someone mind posting those stats while you are unplugged by any chance? I would like to see what the difference will be.

Seablade
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post #36 of 159
1/4/05 at 3:22am
Here is what I have:

32475 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6495.000 FPS
36541 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7308.200 FPS
30566 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6113.200 FPS
- Unplugged -
28434 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5686.800 FPS
28629 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5725.800 FPS
28455 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5691.000 FPS
- Plugged back in -
32949 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6589.800 FPS
36453 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7290.600 FPS

-- Jon
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post #37 of 159
1/5/05 at 6:48am
HI there guys
I am a TOTAL Linux noob so pls any help would be great
I have Fedora Core 3 , but I just for the hell of me cant get it to detect my HDD. I Have a Sager 9860 with 1 60Gig 7200 PATA Drive. I have tried booting it in normal ATA mode and in Raid Stripe 1 - 0 with no luck
It just does not want to detect my HDD
Would you guys pls help me out by telling me how you were able to install Fedora Core 3 ? Did you compile custom drivers to load before installation ?
If you did will you guys please email me the drivers to kwagga9733@hotmail.com with some instructions on how to load them up
Sorry for my lack of knowledge, I just got started with Linux
Thnx in advance
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post #38 of 159
1/5/05 at 12:36pm
Checkout my other thread on Fedora 3.
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post #39 of 159
1/5/05 at 8:38pm
I have posted this in your Fedora Thread to:

HI again.
I have tried what you said by putting it in ATA mode in the Bios, but it sill does not detect my HDD. I see that you have SATA drives, whereas I have only 1 60Gig PATA/ATA 7200 HDD and not a SATA hdd, might this be the reason for it not being detected?

Pls let me kno gow I can fix this and many thnx for the info so far
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post #40 of 159
1/6/05 at 12:05am
I think it indeed may be. I have heard of PATA issues in conjunction with libata. I speculate that this has to do with Promise's reluctant tendencies towards Linux drivers. However, if this is the case there may be hope in one of the next versions of libata for support for PATA portions of this controller. As I do not own a PATA hard drive for the 9860, I am unable to test this issue directly. Likewise, I have never used Fedora. Notwithstanding the previous; could you post some more detailed info about your problem (i.e. what does it say on boot) and possibly your kernel config? This may provide more insight into what the issue at hand is and perhaps a remedy.

-- Jon
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