Countdown to the sager 4750 successor - Page 2

I'd prefer a Mobile 939, but if it came down to it, I'd probably take a desktop 939 over a Mobile 754 (although a Low Power 754 would probably seduce me thoroughly enough if the power of the other components remained the same.)

And the new core desktop chips actually go down to extremely low power values when idle and (I assume) fairly low values when active.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/200...m4_570-20.html

It seems that the new Winchester Core Socket 939 chips can actually stay under 32 watts when under heavy load (isn't that the number on Low Power Athlon 64s?). Wow. And seeing 3 watts for the processor when it's inactive is also kind of nice. You'll also note the fairly low value for the idle FX-55? Strange, though, that Tom's Hardware doesn't show the full load value for that. Meh.

At any rate, it doesn't look like taking a "DTR" Athlon 64 machine with a desktop chip would be a huge problem.

So i'm new to this post but i thought i'd let you guys in on some info.

I talked to alienware today and they said an area 51m with PCIe and AMD64 is in testing phase and would probably be available Q1 of next year. Who knows if that true but i was assured it was likely.

I'm stuck in the situation where i need a new notebook now but would like to wait until a 64 bit is offered with PCIe. Plus, even if it is offered in say march it will be backordered and expensive as hell. So i want you all's opinion on the current Hypersonic Aviator EX7 (http://www.hypersonic-pc.com/EX7/index.asp). Good company? Does anyone know if the intel 915p motherboard is 64 bit compatible? (heard its not) and can new processors be replaced later (PV maybe or 1033 bus P4?)

Your input would be much appreciated!

Same as the 9860..and if you read my sig..you know I like it
Hypersonic is a good company.. but slow...

The Intel PCI-Express motherboards are supposed to be compatible with their 64-bit processors, I think. The Sager 9860, at least, is supposed to be compatible. Hypersonic is just remarked Sagers, as I recall.

And if you look at the 9860, there don't seem to be all that many delays. It's just the wireless networking card holding everything up. I'm able to remain optimistic for the availability of an Athlon 64-based system with PCI-Express. Keep in mind that Intel attracts more casual users, and also that the early orders were all filled almost immediately, and that they'll probably be shipping in force again in a month or two.

And, by god, that notebook is a sexy thought. A sexy, sexy, terrible, terrible thought. I guess I'll just have to pray that it'll be cheaper than the 9860.

Yeah i hope so but check out this article (http://www.hothardware.com/viewartic...leid=571&cid=3) i assume the NG82915P / FW82801FB (ICH6) chipset on sager is the Intel 915P + ICH6 Chipset. Who else is planning PCIe Amd64 model?

The hypersonic is cheaper plus you dont have to order an OS, memory, or hardrive (those hundreds add up). what about higher Bus speeds on the 915p? and how high do you all think the P4 will go with 800 mhz?

slow?...

Members of PC Torque's staff have said that it is supposed to be compatible. Take it as you will. Hypersonics are repackaged Sagers, though, so they probably use the same motherboard(interestingly enough, I hear that they're literally repackaged Sagers, not Clevos.)

Alienware claims to be planning a PCIe AMD64 model, and Clevo is almost certainly working on one. Because Dell seems to be in a racket with Intel, it probably isn't.

http://pctorque.com/

It tends to be cheaper than buying direct from Sager, it has better support, and it allows you to trim some of the fat (eg:OS).

The AMD pci-e SLI (yep, its a dual pci-e GPU setup) is out, so its just a matter of time before the laptop mobo comes out.

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/sock...d/overview.htm

And to respond to what someone said about 754 vs 939, I'd rather buy 939. They aren't much more expensive than the 754's and the mobos cost about the same.

Maiison
-Biding my time until the AMD 64 pci-e notebook comes out-

I was refering in my post to notebooks, so the cost of mobo's that you refer to doesn't really impact the decision. The question really was, would people be more interested in the better battery life of the 754 mobile, or the slightly better performance of a 939 desktop chip?

Me, I'm all about the Low Power mobiles. I'm hoping that when the Lancaster core comes out next year that we'll get some low power mobiles in the 3200+ or 3400+ range.

Again, look at the results I posted. There are some extremely low power desktop 939 cores. 32 watt at full power and 3 watt when idle? That's comparable to the current Low Power Mobiles, if I remember correctly. We wouldn't quite be making the supreme sacrifice.

And the difference depends on a few things. For example, the 754 platform caps quite a bit earlier (3700+ compared to 4000+ and the FX-55). The difference between a 3700+ and an FX-55 is very large, from what I understand.

I'm waiting for AMD64 too. I hope it will be out soon.

man this wait is killing me - I need to hear some type of info on release by end of december, otherwise will pick up the cyberpowersystems AMD64 top.:

http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/high...648000.asp?v=d

XPLORER X64-8000 PRO NOTEBOOK - its priced well - w/option of 1gig of kingston ram. Only down side is that it is a 15.4" wsxga, I would rather have preferred a 17"er

I'm going to speculate a bit:

According to AMD's proccessor road map, there will be two main laptop chips, the low power mobile and a regular mobile. The regular mobile chips are all ready out, and I beleive run at 62w, where as I have heard the low power chips are to run at 35w or so.

Secondly I see at the very least low power chips sticking with the 754 pin configuration, that leaves the question what config will the regular mobile chips take. I had always thought they would stick with 754 pin. But then you have to look what intel is doing.

I know with the 8790 and I think with the 9860 desktop chips are supported, Thats only a good thing as it gives a pretty wide selection of chips to work with IMO. If AMD were to take the same approach that would mean we would see a 939 pin mobo spec, for laptops, opening up the 4000+ and the FX chips for the mobile market. If people can run Extreme Edition chips in their lappys they can run desktop AMD64s.

That would allow AMD to match Intel's starategy blow for blow it would then be:

Low power Mobile AMD64(35w) vs. Intel Centrino
Mobile AMD64(62w-89w) vs. Intel LGA775 chips

I beleive the next announcement from Sager regarding an AMD64 chip will be a Thin and Light notebook in the vein of the 3790, a 3750 if you will, and it wont neccissarily be based on a PCI-e chipset. I can see that being announced mid Jan to early Feb.

A full out replacement to the 4750, an 8750 or 9850, will no doubt be a PCI-e solution coming maybe beginning of March. I'm not too sure about that, as I'm not totally up to Sager/Clevo's release patterns.

Just my 2 cents what do you think?

If such a laptop comes out it will be undeniable proof that God exists so therefore we'll have to settle for something slightly less as usual

As far as Hypersonic is concerned they are a decent company. They pricematched a quote from PCTorque plus I was able to get the 'No Dead Pixel' Policy and arctic silver 5 installed. The final bill was about $350 over what PC Torque would have charged for a sager with an athlon64 3400 which I thought was fair.

I had issues with my wireless card and they are replacing it with the Gigabyte one, but I am paying $40 for the upgrade. They wanted me to send the laptop in to replace the card, but I convinced them I'd be just fine doing it myself.

The build time was about 3 weeks, but I changed the config about 5 times until finally settling on just maxing the damn thing out. Apparently they restarted the 72 hour burn-in process every time I changed the config.

The weird thing is I had the hardest time getting a hold of the sales people. Their tech support is super easy to get in contact with.

So overall I'd say I had a very nice experience. The only thing that concerned me about the Sagers are the dead pixels. I'm one of those people that will loose my mind if I have one so guaranteeing there would be none was a big plus (even if it did cost me $100).

-BT

Must.... have... AMD64 notebook... with PCIE... ... ... Can't... hold out... much longer... D... D... Dell's are coming... to get me!!! Gasp...

WOW, thats one cheap laptop from cyberpower. but i'd rather have it from a more relyable company.

Dude, you're Getting a dell?

Dude, you're Getting a dell? Dude sweet ****cough cough****

Anyone want to speculate whether it will be in the 8790 case and be called the 8750 or the 9860 case and be called the 9865

MARCH!? - please lets hope its before that.

Well, I _HOPE_ it's in the 9860 case... can't say I care what they call it so long as the specs are at least as good as the 9860 (which means keeping NVIDIA BTW).



Louis