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post #281 of 368
2/8/05 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by Kateikyoushi
Did you ever wonder why Japanese PC makers prefer Intel ?

Then read this.
Any americans who wants to comment on this, would you consider this acceptable conduct for a major corporation in your opinion?
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post #282 of 368
2/8/05 at 9:31pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
Squashing Intel would let AMD have the monopoly, a big
No, squashing intel means the new MST (MichaelX-Snorre Technology) will have 50 percent of the market share. I am waiting for some stock options.
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post #283 of 368
2/8/05 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by HardBall
No, squashing intel means the new MST (MichaelX-Snorre Technology) will have 50 percent of the market share. I am waiting for some stock options.

Ohh that's right Hey Snorre, should we reveal out new MST Processor!?!?!?
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post #284 of 368
2/8/05 at 9:48pm
5.7 pounds, 1.25" thick, and up to a 128mb MR X700 graphics card. Where do I sign up?
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post #285 of 368
2/8/05 at 9:56pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
Ohh that's right Hey Snorre, should we reveal out new MST Processor!?!?!?

I think I can't resist leaking the specs, sorry Michael:

SOI 65nm
dual core
4.2 GHz
throttles 4x/10x/16x/21x
12 ALU per core
12 FPU per core
15 stage pipeline
256k data cache
256k instruction
4MB L2
4 HTT links at 2800 MHz
quad-channel on die mem controller (256-bits)
supports DDR-III

Price: 150 USD
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post #286 of 368
2/8/05 at 9:59pm
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Originally Posted by HardBall
I think I can't resist leaking the specs, sorry Michael:

SOI 65nm
dual core
4.2 GHz
throttles 4x/10x/16x/21x
12 ALU per core
12 FPU per core
15 stage pipeline
256k data cache
256k instruction
4MB L2
4 HTT links at 2800 MHz
quad-channel on die mem controller (256-bits)
supports DDR-III

Price: 150 USD
shame on mr. B and mrs S.
we want realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllll infoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oh comeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ON
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post #287 of 368
2/8/05 at 11:08pm
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Originally Posted by unholy
shame on mr. B and mrs S.
we want realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllll infoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oh comeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ON

I already got advanced samples from MST, and it's looking pretty sweet. By the way, one of the owners' birthday is three days out:
http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=62887

If you slip him a nice B-day gift, you might have yourself s pre-release sample as well.
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post #288 of 368
2/8/05 at 11:15pm
Did I mention that DDR-III Runs at speeds 933 MHz, 1.0 GHz, and 1.13 GHz!!! But in reality the bandwidth is eighteen times that of DDR-I @ 400 MHz theoritically removing ANY previous bottle neck!!!

Unfortunately we have to rely on ATI and nVidia to make a graphic card that can keep up!!!
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post #289 of 368
2/9/05 at 12:55am
On arima's web site, they have the W622 spec'ed out as support 40, 60, and 80 gb hard drives. I read that there is no 100gb SATA drive. Is it safe to assume that the W622 will feature sata hard drives instead of pata? NCQ would be a nice addition to the already impressive list of features if this is true.
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post #290 of 368
2/9/05 at 1:51am
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Originally Posted by HardBall
I already got advanced samples from MST, and it's looking pretty sweet. By the way, one of the owners' birthday is three days out:
http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=62887

If you slip him a nice B-day gift, you might have yourself s pre-release sample as well.
hehe
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post #291 of 368
2/9/05 at 2:29am
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
Did I mention that DDR-III Runs at speeds 933 MHz, 1.0 GHz, and 1.13 GHz!!! But in reality the bandwidth is eighteen times that of DDR-I @ 400 MHz theoritically removing ANY previous bottle neck!!!
What bottle-neck, from now on, it will be called the Bottle-Belly


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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
Unfortunately we have to rely on ATI and nVidia to make a graphic card that can keep up!!!
Don't you remember, Michael, you are working out a deal with NVidia to develop a new Nforce standard, that can support 4x NV7600GT graphics after this summer. That is 2X PCIE16, plus 2X HTT graphics slots (HTT graphics each has 2.8 GHz duplex interface rate). That's what the extra HTT links are for. This baby can support upto 8 monitors at the same time, and will provide HDTV quality graphics that will squash anything the competition can dream up.
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post #292 of 368
2/9/05 at 2:59am
And it will be out on a national holiday in May,

no, not cinco de maio,

but the other holiday in May, on the 17th, according to the wishes of Snorre.
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post #293 of 368
2/9/05 at 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
Ohh that's right Hey Snorre, should we reveal out new MST Processor!?!?!?


It has to be 64-bit, low-power and high performance, a fast integrated memory controller, a point-to-point bus and cost less than $200. I think the Turion 64 will fit those requirements just nicely so I don't see much point trying to do it better to be quite frank.
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post #294 of 368
2/9/05 at 10:35pm
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Originally Posted by snorre


It has to be 64-bit, low-power and high performance, a fast integrated memory controller, a point-to-point bus and cost less than $200. I think the Turion 64 will fit those requirements just nicely so I don't see much point trying to do it better to be quite frank.
Ok good, our plan to monopolize 128 Bit Processors is wellllllllllll underway
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post #295 of 368
2/9/05 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by HardBall
What bottle-neck, from now on, it will be called the Bottle-Belly

Don't you remember, Michael, you are working out a deal with NVidia to develop a new Nforce standard, that can support 4x NV7600GT graphics after this summer. That is 2X PCIE16, plus 2X HTT graphics slots (HTT graphics each has 2.8 GHz duplex interface rate). That's what the extra HTT links are for. This baby can support upto 8 monitors at the same time, and will provide HDTV quality graphics that will squash anything the competition can dream up.

ohh thats right, MST is working with nVidia, but that's snorre's department and he is much more secretive than me
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post #296 of 368
2/9/05 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
ohh thats right, MST is working with nVidia, but that's snorre's department and he is much more secretive than me
THere is one question remaining:

How are you going to come up with a name as catchy as the "pentium" or the "athlon"?
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post #297 of 368
2/9/05 at 11:45pm
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Originally Posted by HardBall
THere is one question remaining:

How are you going to come up with a name as catchy as the "pentium" or the "athlon"?

We were contemplating

"THIS PROCESSOR KICKS THE SHIT OUT AMD AND COMPLETELY BITCHSLAPS INTEL INTO THE GROUND"

But we decided that was too long and couldn't fit comfortably on a laptop.
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post #298 of 368
2/9/05 at 11:50pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
We were contemplating

"THIS PROCESSOR KICKS THE SHIT OUT AMD AND COMPLETELY BITCHSLAPS INTEL INTO THE GROUND"

But we decided that was too long and couldn't fit comfortably on a laptop.
How about just "Sh*t"

Edit: with the "*" as a tiny diagram of HTT implementation.
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post #299 of 368
2/10/05 at 1:21am

Getting a lappy

I was planning to get a centrion laptop back in december 2004. But i heard they coming out with sonoma. Does any1 know when Sager is releasing a sonoma based lappy?
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post #300 of 368
2/10/05 at 9:18am
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AMD Readies 64-Bit Mobile Platform, Yet System Builders Have Questions
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As Advanced Micro Devices prepares to release its 64-bit Turion mobile platform to custom-system builders and OEMs, integrators are questioning if 64-bit technology has a place in the notebook, SOHO and home networking arenas.

"I don't get excited about 64-bit because I don't see a lot of need for that," said Steve Moll, director of operations at CTL, a Portland, Ore.-based system builder. "On a mobile platform, it seems like overkill. Maybe as more applications are written to the platform it may open things up. But right now, we don't see it as a viable selling point."

Although integrators agree Sunnyvale, Calif.-based AMD produces top-notch processors, many say it has fallen short on marketing and channel programs.

AMD must do a better job on those fronts if it wants to compete against Intel, said Chaim Lowenstein, COO and CTO of Web Commerce, a New York system builder and integrator. This month, Intel plans to ship a 64-bit-enabled Pentium 4 desktop processor.

"AMD has incredible engineers, but they don't have those capabilities on the marketing side," Lowenstein said. "Intel has excelled on that side. AMD is not being creative."

AMD executives say they're releasing Turion to help system builders create lighter, smaller and cooler notebooks with longer battery life. Slated to ship in the first half of this year, the platform is aimed at the business traveler, home networks and education. Turion will be wireless-compatible and support robust graphics and enhanced security, said Bahr Mahoney, AMD's division marketing manager for mobile.

"The mobile market has seen tremendous growth because people are using notebooks for a wide range of things, from business to education to digital entertainment," Mahoney said. "We do see the trend for thinner, lighter notebooks."

Still, AMD faces challenges in selling the concept of 64-bit computing to consumers and small businesses, especially in a laptop design. Although Turion runs quieter and cooler than 32-bit platforms--a big factor for home entertainment centers and vertical-market solutions--system builders and integrators say there's not enough customer demand and applications for 64-bit platforms to justify a hard sell.

AMD is working with ODMs to develop lighter, smaller form factors. The chip maker also will provide marketing dollars, development support and other programs to help system builders and integrators drive sales of custom laptops, said Gary Bixler, senior manager of regional marketing for AMD's system builder channel.

"We'll make it as easy as possible for our partners to get [64-bit notebooks] to market and for them to integrate the systems," Bixler said.
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