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post #41 of 368
11/23/04 at 1:01am
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Originally Posted by Sharakkhal
Even more importantly, Snorre is finally admitting (in a round-about way) that current Centrino laptops are better than current AMD64 laptops. He's coming out of denial! Admitting your problem is the first step to recovery!



It's all in good fun, of course.
I can only think of one thing the Centrino has over AMD64. It provides alittle longer batterylife, (very little when gaming). In all other areas AMD64 owns Intel CPUs. It's up to you to decide wich is better for you I suppose...
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post #42 of 368
11/23/04 at 1:02am
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Originally Posted by snorre
They say that all stories eventually come true at the Inquirer.
Sure...

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16056

Don't you know? I saw it on Wal-Mart yesterday...
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post #43 of 368
11/23/04 at 4:21am
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The Inquirer dosen't have a crystal ball you know, but the majority of what they report turns out to be true. I expect them to be right about the story I reported too, just you wait and see
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post #44 of 368
11/23/04 at 4:27am
Snore, take a look at this guy saying that 64bit is useless

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=50819&page=2

Enlighten him will you? Read his last post
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post #45 of 368
11/23/04 at 5:31am
Before someone breaks out the guns, could someone spell Lancaster for me?
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post #46 of 368
11/23/04 at 6:00am
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Originally Posted by snorre
Well now, I think the Acer Ferrari 3200/3400 series have a better CPU, chipset and WLAN solution. Hopefully AMD's new package will be even better
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post #47 of 368
11/23/04 at 6:54am
and no battery liife.

But im not worried. Seeing how AMD approached desktop arena, i have no doubt that AMD will put forth a Centrino killer. Of course, we cannot possibly know anything, but we all know that AMD is a formidable opponent to Intel and it's been hitting the target at the right time. This means more option for us.

One bad thing is, this won't be out anytime soon.
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post #48 of 368
11/23/04 at 7:18am
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Originally Posted by Clonedancient
and no battery liife.
Up to 3.5 hours battery life is hardly nothing.
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post #49 of 368
11/23/04 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by Karma
Before someone breaks out the guns, could someone spell Lancaster for me?
Yeah, the low-power Mobile Athlon 64 "Lancaster" that will be out early next year with even higher performance and better battery life than today's low-power Mobile Athlon 64 CPU's. It will surely give the Pentium M 533FSB a run for their money.
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post #50 of 368
11/23/04 at 7:46am
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Originally Posted by snorre
Up to 3.5 hours battery life is hardly nothing.
I was pointing to the Ferrari AMD's.
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post #51 of 368
11/23/04 at 7:59am
LOL

I would'nt have believed news like this would cause a rukus on a site like this... I guess there's fan boys everywhere.

If you look at powerusage of the 90nm A64's as reported by tomshardware and anandtech in their P4 3800 reviews you will notice that Amd could easily get out a mobile A64 with powerusage equal to the pentium -m. Combine that with a motherboard that is actually designed from the ground up with mobility in mind and I don't really see any reason why they would not come up with a competitive architecture.

I don't care which one will be faster, but I do wish there would be more competition in light & thin notebooks.
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post #52 of 368
11/23/04 at 10:11am
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Originally Posted by Clonedancient
I was pointing to the Ferrari AMD's.
So was I.
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post #53 of 368
11/23/04 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by snorre
So was I.
Umm... whatever. How much did that lappy of yours cost snorre?
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post #54 of 368
11/23/04 at 3:18pm
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Originally Posted by Davidlove
umm... I dont think soo. Centrino are very very very and I mean very powerful. If you bougt a 2.1ghz dothan to a 3200+ Amd 64 they will preform very simialr. Intel has plans to use dual core and that will defialty beat amd. Who cares about 64 so far NOTHING takes advantge of it. I hardly dought amd can come up with something as fast and as quite as the centrino. Just imagine a dual core centrino now that i am putting my 3 grand towards. Its proably going to be a scaled down Amd xp only with a faster bus and calling it mobile Please if Amd could do this then I would be shocked
FanBOY!!! eg. "very very very", caps on useless words "NOTHING"
I think you are a misinformed person who seems to only read about intel news.
1) Why would AMD use the XP core when it is hotter compared to the AMD 64? It just doesn't make any sense to use the AMD XP for laptops.
2) Dual core, hmm I doubt you can prove this one yet because AMD will be releasing their dual cores next year. Bearing in mind that AMD does have hypertransport, which will scale a lot better in 2P+ configurations. And, we have little to no info on how will Intel will implement dual core on the Pentium M.
3) 64 bit useless? I doubt it simply because the AMD 64 intruction set has 8 more register, which means better performance. Secondly, why is intel also jumping on the 64 bit wagon if it is so useless?
4) Currently, the Pentium M only performs same as an AMD 64 if the benchmark is ALU heavy. In FPU mode the AMD 64 truly shines compared to the Pentium M.

Whether AMD could pull a Centrino killer will depends a variety of factors.
1) if they can get enough ODMs to actually make the laptops.
2) if they can get the power level down to the Pentium M level.

If these two factors hold true then will AMD might be able to pull it off.
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post #55 of 368
11/23/04 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by snorre
Up to 3.5 hours battery life is hardly nothing.
while doing what? stand by on a dimmed to min screen?
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post #56 of 368
11/23/04 at 4:17pm
It's gonna be a year till this allleged "Centrino Killer" comes out and destroys the Centrino. By then, the Centrino would be celebrating it's 4th anniversary. Woopee f*cking doo, We just beat a 4 year old chipset.

But seriously, technology moves way too fast for you to start speculating on who will beat who at this stage. I suggest you wait till at least 6 months before release before you guys start bickering again.

About dual core, well, there's no way Intel is going to be putting a dual core CPU in a lappy in the foreseeable. They're having enough trouble as it is just trying to contain the heat in a desktop and sticking to Air cooling, how are they gonna manage with a lappy? The only way i can see Intel doing dual core in a lappy is by basing the dual core on a Dothan core then undervolting and underclocking it even more. Even then, you might only be able to fit it on a thick'n heavy Desktop Replacement machine.
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post #57 of 368
11/23/04 at 4:35pm
a 4-page thread is way too much for a 2-paragraph "story" from the Inquirer. Considering the AMD package has not been introduced, much less is in production, it's a non-story.
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post #58 of 368
11/23/04 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by zlatanov
while doing what? stand by on a dimmed to min screen?
This is what i thot. Apparently Ferrari 3200 can get 3.5 hours after heavy, intensive gaming an dvd watching, and all other what nots. Yay.
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post #59 of 368
11/23/04 at 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by bcsan
FanBOY!!! eg. "very very very", caps on useless words "NOTHING"
I think you are a misinformed person who seems to only read about intel news.
1) Why would AMD use the XP core when it is hotter compared to the AMD 64? It just doesn't make any sense to use the AMD XP for laptops.
2) Dual core, hmm I doubt you can prove this one yet because AMD will be releasing their dual cores next year. Bearing in mind that AMD does have hypertransport, which will scale a lot better in 2P+ configurations. And, we have little to no info on how will Intel will implement dual core on the Pentium M.
3) 64 bit useless? I doubt it simply because the AMD 64 intruction set has 8 more register, which means better performance. Secondly, why is intel also jumping on the 64 bit wagon if it is so useless?
4) Currently, the Pentium M only performs same as an AMD 64 if the benchmark is ALU heavy. In FPU mode the AMD 64 truly shines compared to the Pentium M.
Right on target!

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Originally Posted by bcsan
Whether AMD could pull a Centrino killer will depends a variety of factors.
1) if they can get enough ODMs to actually make the laptops.
2) if they can get the power level down to the Pentium M level.

If these two factors hold true then will AMD might be able to pull it off.
I agree with you here too:
1) If the total package is good quality and competitive price wise why not?
2) The 25W Lancaster will do this I think

2005 will be an exiting year for laptop entusiasts
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post #60 of 368
11/23/04 at 7:18pm
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Originally Posted by Enderet
Snore, take a look at this guy saying that 64bit is useless

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=50819&page=2

Enlighten him will you? Read his last post
Yea by the time windows makes a 64 bit operating sytem like in the beging of 2006. And there is NO NO NO NO programs the consumer use every day that takes advantge of it. Sorry but ur the one who is making a joke out of this. There is not really a big differnce if a dothan 2.3ghz is smazing amd adm 3800+ SOrry but look at the becnhmarks
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