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post #1 of 49
11/22/04 at 4:51pm
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hey guys,

i just had a question. i've been looking for a laptop that is similar to the acer ferrari in terms of components and size but had the battery life of a centrino. is this an either or issue or is there a company that can provide both. thanks.
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post #2 of 49
11/23/04 at 4:08am
athlon64 mobile will draw more power than the pentium m any way you cut it
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post #3 of 49
11/23/04 at 4:34am
Actually, the Acer Ferrari 3200/3400 got as good or better battery life as several Centrino notebooks available today. However, it performs way better than any of them.
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post #4 of 49
11/23/04 at 5:11am
really? and what are those centrino notebooks that have the same battery life as an acer?

for your matter, my 2012wlmi gets around 4.5 hours of average use. What does your acer get snorre?
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post #5 of 49
11/23/04 at 5:22am
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Originally Posted by nark
really? and what are those centrino notebooks that have the same battery life as an acer?
The Acer Ferrari 3200/3400 series got at least as good or better battery life than MiTAC 8050, Elitegroup G556E, Dell Inspiron m510, HP nx9030 and Fujitsu-Siemens S7010S to name a few Centrino notebooks I know.

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Originally Posted by nark
What does your acer get snorre?
Up to 3 hours and 26 minutes:
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...924#post349924

However, the maximum battery life that anyone has achieved so far on the Acer Ferrari 3200 is 3 hours and 42 minutes AFAIK.
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post #6 of 49
11/23/04 at 6:54am
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Originally Posted by snorre
Actually, the Acer Ferrari 3200/3400 got as good or better battery life as several Centrino notebooks available today. However, it performs way better than any of them.
These are centrino laptops with smaller capacity batteries - 6 cell. A centrino with 8 cell bat wil get more than 1.5 X the battery of the Acer Ferarri 3200 not to speak of the 3400.
I really wondeer when you will finally stop deceiving and comforting yourself with empty statements like these. It is much better to admit the truth so that you don't commit the same mistake over and over again - the Ferarri is a very good lappy, apart from the red color, but it just doesn't cut it neither performancewise nor mobilitywise compared to a Dothan System with same everything except cpu.

Saying that it has a much better performance is just superfluous and premature having in mind that the Ferarri comes with one of the weakest AMD cpus out there.
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post #7 of 49
11/23/04 at 7:15am
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Originally Posted by zlatanov
These are centrino laptops with smaller capacity batteries - 6 cell. A centrino with 8 cell bat wil get more than 1.5 X the battery of the Acer Ferarri 3200 not to speak of the 3400.
No way, the 3400 actually got up to 10% better battery life compared to the 3200 or so I've heard.

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Originally Posted by zlatanov
the Ferarri is a very good lappy, apart from the red color, but it just doesn't cut it neither performancewise nor mobilitywise compared to a Dothan System with same everything except cpu. Saying that it has a much better performance is just superfluous and premature having in mind that the Ferarri comes with one of the weakest AMD cpus out there.
Stop deceiving and comforting yourself, the low-power Mobile Athlon 64 really is an awesome processor and beats the Dothan hands down performance wise and comes pretty damn close battery life wise too. And contrary to you I have the numbers to back up my claims. I love the red paint job on the Ferrari, it looks pretty damn hot. It's also pretty thin & light and that makes it very good mobilitywise in my opinion, especially since it's loaded with features at a very competitive price compared to the Acer Travelmate 8000 series at least.
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post #8 of 49
11/23/04 at 8:06am
The low voltage A64 is a pretty efficient processor, but the chipsets are not close (in efficiency) to what centrino's offer. This is the reason that a centrino with equal weight and battery will get more batterylife.
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post #9 of 49
11/23/04 at 8:31am
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Originally Posted by superdood
hey guys,

i just had a question. i've been looking for a laptop that is similar to the acer ferrari in terms of components and size but had the battery life of a centrino. is this an either or issue or is there a company that can provide both. thanks.
Acer Travelmate 8000 series is just that. The Ferrari case / components (no paint) and a Dothan processor.

Some DVD playback battery tests I've seen/run myself:
- Ferrari 3200 (AMD 64 2800+): 1 hours 40 minutes DVD playback (tested by Adam@PCTorque)
- HP Compaq nw8000 (Dothan 745 1.8 GHz): 3 hours 25 minutes of DVD playback (tested by myself)
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post #10 of 49
11/23/04 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by Tommi
Some DVD playback battery tests I've seen/run myself:
- Ferrari 3200 (AMD 64 2800+): 1 hours 40 minutes DVD playback (tested by Adam@PCTorque)
I did some proper battery tests of the Ferrari 3200 and I got 2 hours and 42 minutes DVD playback.
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post #11 of 49
11/23/04 at 10:49am
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Originally Posted by zlatanov
These are centrino laptops with smaller capacity batteries - 6 cell. A centrino with 8 cell bat wil get more than 1.5 X the battery of the Acer Ferarri 3200 not to speak of the 3400.
I really wondeer when you will finally stop deceiving and comforting yourself with empty statements like these. It is much better to admit the truth so that you don't commit the same mistake over and over again - the Ferarri is a very good lappy, apart from the red color, but it just doesn't cut it neither performancewise nor mobilitywise compared to a Dothan System with same everything except cpu. Saying that it has a much better performance is just superfluous and premature having in mind that the Ferarri comes with one of the weakest AMD cpus out there.
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Originally Posted by Tommi
Acer Travelmate 8000 series is just that. The Ferrari case / components (no paint) and a Dothan processor.

Some DVD playback battery tests I've seen/run myself:
- Ferrari 3200 (AMD 64 2800+): 1 hours 40 minutes DVD playback (tested by Adam@PCTorque)
- HP Compaq nw8000 (Dothan 745 1.8 GHz): 3 hours 25 minutes of DVD playback (tested by myself)
These are generally the same numbers I have heard from SEVERAL users. 3 of which I know in real life (In regards to the Ferrari 3200). These numbers are more reliable then snorre's.
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post #12 of 49
11/23/04 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by snorre
I did some proper battery tests of the Ferrari 3200 and I got 2 hours and 42 minutes DVD playback.

Snorre can you please post what setting and or tweaks you used when you ran your battery test. Thanks!

Also on a side note, when i checked the specs of the Ferrari 3200 and 3400 on Newegg, they have the battery time for the 3200 listed as 3 hours while on the 3400 they have 2.5 hours. I'm not sure why because the 3000+ LV processor should use the same amount if not less power than then 2800+.
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post #13 of 49
11/23/04 at 1:02pm
Actually they're the other way around, 3400 is listed as 3h while 3200 is listed as 2,5h. That's Acer's own web site.
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post #14 of 49
11/23/04 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by Rustican
Snorre can you please post what setting and or tweaks you used when you ran your battery test.
See these posts:
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...650#post458650
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...924#post349924
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...298#post535298
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...413#post543413
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post #15 of 49
11/23/04 at 2:10pm
AMD doesnt stand a chance when it comes to battery life, my friends Pentium-M gets almost 6 hours of battery life, there is no AMD that will even come close to touching that.
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post #16 of 49
11/23/04 at 2:48pm
Ic, the tests that adam and probably tommi did was without tweaks. I bet if Tommi tweaked his laptop like you did yours, he would get around 4 hours on dvd playback, but then you won't be able to see anything as the screen would be dim as hell.
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post #17 of 49
11/23/04 at 3:57pm
Without any I mean any tweaks of screen brightness, gpu clock settings and such, I get 3.5 hrs of DVD Playback (from optical drive) on the Asus M6BNe and this with an OCed gpu. With the Power4Gear util - dimms the screen, downclocks cpu, etc. - I wouldn't be surprised if it hits the 4hr mark.
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post #18 of 49
11/23/04 at 3:58pm
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2. Make also sure that LCD Auto Dim is enabled in the BIOS Main menu.
When watching a DVD, dont u want it to be bright so you can actually see what's going on? One of the major power draws of a notebook is the LCD screen and i think this is where you're getting most of your extra power from.

Then who is seriously gonna take their time to go into each screen and carefully downclock your CPU and GPU, then clock em back up after watching the DVD on battery life and we havent even started talking about instability that underclocking can incur.

Isnt tweaking your lappy to those extremes to get maximum battery life for a benchie like that kinda retarted? I mean, it's not like you're really gonna use those settings IRL. IMO, benchmarking that way is like a virtual pissing up a wall contest.

Either way, it's not gonna make your penis any bigger.

Snorre, i suggest you try benching without any tweaks or optimizations and see what you really get as real world performance is what counts, not synthetic benchmarks. Just time it as you actually watch a DVD for enjoyment without having to take ages before hand prepping. It's sometimes embaressing to see a grown man defend his purchase like that with synthetic benchmarks.
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post #19 of 49
11/23/04 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by NovaShine
Isnt tweaking your lappy to those extremes to get maximum battery life for a benchie like that kinda retarted? I mean, it's not like you're really gonna use those settings IRL. IMO, benchmarking that way is like a virtual pissing up a wall contest.

Either way, it's not gonna make your penis any bigger.
fully support this statement
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post #20 of 49
11/23/04 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by snorre
No way, the 3400 actually got up to 10% better battery life compared to the 3200 or so I've heard.


Stop deceiving and comforting yourself, the low-power Mobile Athlon 64 really is an awesome processor and beats the Dothan hands down performance wise and comes pretty damn close battery life wise too. And contrary to you I have the numbers to back up my claims. I love the red paint job on the Ferrari, it looks pretty damn hot. It's also pretty thin & light and that makes it very good mobilitywise in my opinion, especially since it's loaded with features at a very competitive price compared to the Acer Travelmate 8000 series at least.
Snorre, wake up, the amd64 is an awsome processor and the 3400 will beat the 1.7 Dothan (it is between 3000 and 3200 amd 64 in performance) hands down however the Ferarri IS using the LEAST powerful AMD 64 cpu that exist - 2800 (Ferarri 3200) at 1.6 GHz and and 3000+ (Ferarri 3400) at 1.8GHz. Just because it is an amd 64 it doesn't necessarily make it the performance beast you are seeing in your dreams. Your lappy's gaming performance has much more to do with the 128 9700 ATi than with the amd 64 2800+ you have in there.
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