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Burn DVDs on a laptop

post #1 of 32
12/21/02 at 9:03pm
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You can find in this link that there is already a laptop capable of burning dvds

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,794769,00.asp
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post #2 of 32
12/22/02 at 9:41am
Somehow I think burning DVDs on a laptop isn't very useful. Until they make the burn speed faster than 30 minutes, you should probably leave DVD burning to a desktop.
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post #3 of 32
12/22/02 at 10:32am
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Originally posted by denkc
Somehow I think burning DVDs on a laptop isn't very useful. Until they make the burn speed faster than 30 minutes, you should probably leave DVD burning to a desktop.
The DVD-RW they use is a 1X which would take it a full hour for a complete DVD burn not to mention error checking.
What can take even longer is converting it from DV to MPEGII for the burn. Making a DVD I'm guessing would take the average person a minimum of 3 hours with this system. It wouldn't suprise me to see it go over 5 hours. It's CDRW feature of the drive is a 16X. I personally would still opt for the faster 24X CDRW and give up the 1X DVD even if Sager began to carry it as an option. I haven't really been happy with the software for DVD authoring I've tried. I played around with it in a desktop I built, but put my movie making on hold to let technology get a little farther in this area.
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post #4 of 32
12/22/02 at 10:53am
Well I've got a DVD writer, and though I've had it since Jan this year I've only authored one DVD so far (though quite a few other DVD-ROMs). The program I used was TMPGEnc and a supplied program called DVDIt. The former encoded the video segments into MPEG-2 format for manipulation using DVDIt, and the actual process of encoding into a DVD data stream and then burning took in total about 2 hours I think on my desktop computer. My guess is that the DVD burning speed should be similar as long for a notebook as it's rated at the same writing speed as a desktop. However, the encoding process may take longer for a laptop.


Rob
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post #5 of 32
12/22/02 at 11:19am
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Incompatibility

Also, there is always the small problem of burning your dvd and your player not being able to reproduce it, especially if it is an old dvd player (2 or 3 years).
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post #6 of 32
12/22/02 at 1:37pm
Possibly. But amazingly, that DVD I authored played like normal on this very old Thomson DVD player I have at home - and it's a late 1997 to early 1998 model.


Rob
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post #7 of 32
12/22/02 at 8:58pm
Just wondering...does anyone ever take advantage of the full 4.7 (right?) GB on the DVD? If so, what for?

And I know there are 7 GB DVDs, why not offer those instead of 4.7?
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post #8 of 32
12/22/02 at 9:35pm
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Originally posted by denkc
Just wondering...does anyone ever take advantage of the full 4.7 (right?) GB on the DVD? If so, what for?

And I know there are 7 GB DVDs, why not offer those instead of 4.7?
Anything over the 4.7 uses a different type of layering or dual sides I believe. Since there in no standard between the ways they are doing this and a lot of players would not be able to play it if burned from another brand, it hasn't taken off.
People would use the full 4.7GB for gathered videos of the kids over a year or more, or many high res pics for a HUGE PC photo album.
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post #9 of 32
12/22/02 at 9:46pm
And another question (I know I ask more of them than I answer) but what's the difference between DVD+R and DVD-R? -R is more popular, so why is +R existing?

Awww, family memories. Are there ways to create custom menus on DVDs you burn? I don't own a DVD burner so I'm just wondering about all its little features.
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post #10 of 32
12/22/02 at 9:54pm
HERE'S a good layout of the difference of the 2. It's really confusing. I figure it because DVD burning was a big race with seperate teams working on and they both came up with the own methods to burn. Since neither one wants to throw their technology away to go with the other, there are different versions for now.

Yes, you can make seperate tracks and groups of pictures you can acess from the main menu if you use the right software.
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post #11 of 32
12/22/02 at 9:56pm
Well I'm sure someone will have more specific details of this, but the quick response to that is that some years ago when it was clear that the higher capacity of a DVD would make it a potential replacement for CDRW drives, different groups tried to come up with their own standards for implementing read/writing capability on DVDs. The "R" standard itself is standardised, but not the RW capability I guess.

What I do know too is that Sony has just come up with a drive that has compatible with many of the RW standards right now, with the notable exception of DVD-RAM; which unfortunately is the standard I have on this DVD Drive I'm using!

Rob
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post #12 of 32
12/22/02 at 11:14pm
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Originally posted by PCTORQUE
HERE'S a good layout of the difference of the 2. It's really confusing. I figure it because DVD burning was a big race with seperate teams working on and they both came up with the own methods to burn. Since neither one wants to throw their technology away to go with the other, there are different versions for now.
The source may be unreliable, seeing as how it's "DVDplusRW.org" but it makes a few good points. Why, then, is - the more popular of the two? (I think it is, anyway.)
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post #13 of 32
12/22/02 at 11:35pm
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Originally posted by denkc
The source may be unreliable, seeing as how it's "DVDplusRW.org" but it makes a few good points. Why, then, is - the more popular of the two? (I think it is, anyway.)
You're right, it was one I had saved to favorites to look over and didn't even pay attention to them probably being biased about it. I just thought I'd share the link since it seemed to lay them out side by side the best I had seen it done.
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post #14 of 32
12/23/02 at 12:56am
Well, with a sager at least we know it would handle the encoding part as well as a desktop :-) But, I agree, dvd burning is not as practical as it could be. It will get there though, hopefully if they standardize the format and then move gaming to dvds. Right now, gettings games on 3 cds (UT2k3) is more common than getting them on one DVD. We'll see how that goes...
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post #15 of 32
12/23/02 at 3:32am
I think sony makes one that burns both DVD-R and DVD+R; I've never heard of DVD-RAM. I googled it and found panasonic makes it.(?)

Anyway, if you really need the DVD writer, go ahead and pay the extra (what, $700?) Otherwise, I'd say to just wait until external comes out, as CD-Rs are more practical dollar-wise.

What the heck did I just say?
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post #16 of 32
12/23/02 at 9:28pm
Yep - DVDRAM seems to be largely a Panasonic effort. The DVD-RAM discs I have are enclosed in a nifty case, and the way the drive works is that either the entire case or just the disc can be loaded into the drive bay.

Coincidentally, I just saw in yesterday's newspapers that Panasonic hasn't quite forgotten DVDRAM even in light of its more popular cousins. There was an advertisment of a DVD player which could record TV programs on DVDRAM.


Rob
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post #17 of 32
12/24/02 at 1:39am
Lol, Panasonic dvdram might become the Mac of dvd burning...
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post #18 of 32
12/24/02 at 1:50am
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Originally posted by beebster83
Lol, Panasonic dvdram might become the Mac of dvd burning...
With many loyal users? =P

Well it all depends on who gets the majority of the users, and it seems -R is the most popular, even if it isn't the best.
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post #19 of 32
12/24/02 at 2:40am
We'll see I guess... I would prefer to have a standardized system, but that's just me.
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post #20 of 32
12/24/02 at 2:44am
Well not everything can be standardized; everything needs competition. Some features the +RW and -RAM have that -R might now have, they might consider adding, and vice versa. It certainly would be nice to have a standard, but who's going to standardize it? Took the W3 a while to get up to clear up the whole IE/Netscape scripting deal.
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