"lagging" problem - Page 2

Btw...
I had much more lag before i updated bios, i cant remember what bios vers i had but i updated it to this one:
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...7&page=2&pp=15
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After the biosupdate i almost never! get the laggy thinghy....but like i wrote i earlier posts: I get a 10-15 sec total freeze of whole GPU ...meaning no alt tab or anything...rest of system works 100% ( was in voicechat and playing a game with a friend...i still was in game and where able to talk to him under my screenfreeze) alt tab would work but i would not see any diffrence in screen...

also....no matter how much and where i press fn f10 i dont notice any fan changes.... during boot and in win ive tried....

yea...my point exactly....it is NOT supposed to be like that....atleast not in this short amount of time...

one thing is having a table fan or usb fan on the laptop at home...and also keeping temp down...but at vacations or just bringing laptop elsewhere...this may cause problems...

and who knows....maybe this will be even worse

How about the fans being clogged up. If they are significantly clogged with hair or dust that could drive up those temps like you describe.

Another possibility is that a fan might be broken, especially if your Fn-F10 feature isn't working. Mine shipped with the Fn-F10 feature, and still worked after the bios update a few weeks ago.

So, check on the fans, make sure all 3 are working, not clogged up, and look into why the fan speed won't cycle with the function-F10 button. With the fans on high, nothing seems to slow it down or drive up the heat.

I always game with the fans on high, I want this laptop to last. Now it does sound like a jet is sitting in my office, but I just crank it up or use headphones. It's just the price to pay for thin and powerful gaming in a brick.

Finally, if the fans aren't clogged and thgey all work, try underclocking the GPU and see if the temps go down at all. Some folks are reporting that their GPU's seem to give better FPS running under their set speed. Perhaps also generating less heat.

Anyway, just another idea to try. I'd hate to be in your shoes, so I hope you get it fixed. :-(

It is still happening to me also
orginal drivers - i get like max temp at 75c
omega - max temp is 70c here

but with omega i get more "lag" more often ....and the orginal i get a complete freeze for 10-20secs and maybe a computer crash....but much more seldom ... (like 1/4)

Now im using omegadrivers.... I tried to underclock the gpu... i even halfed all settings at core and memmory and it did not help ANYTHING!...lol

I called the place where i bought it from...they said they will look at it/test it/fix it ....and i would have my laptop back within like 1 week or something. I not sure i would get it back within a weeks since this company is known to use long time....so ill probaly send my laptop in for service in start of february or some date close to that.

tell me if u find a solution....because ive given up now....i only have my most needed programs and a couple of games...

Same exact problems here. Heat is it. I have had mine now for almost a year. The fans have always seemed to work fine and still do. But in the past month I thought it was a crappy HD so I RMA'd it and swapped the 2ndary drive to primary. I recently started playing EQ2 and it started getting slower and just the other night even the video card went bonkers and it head seems to be increasing on the palm rest. Now the other drive (2ndary which is now primary) is acting funny-lagging and it is getting scorching hot. I did not realize how hot the drive was getting...almost untouchable. I now run it without the HD panel off (not that it has really help as I think the heat has gotten the best of this drive as well) I just blew it out and cleaned from under the keyboard as suggested by others. I'm going to definately look into fan mods for the HD's as this is really annoying me. I'm even considering a laptop cooler for underneath. I'm just convinced the temps are roaching the drives and then they start to get really hot causing the overall system to increase in temp then causing the video card to overheat. I feel your pain.

What's the deal

Well is seems as if I'm not the only person with this problem. I have only had my system for a few months. When I first got it, this thing was a beast. It thrashed anything I threw at it. I was amazed in glory, finally finding a laptop that competed with my desktop. The only problem that ever bothered me was the issue of the heat ~ I honestly can't complain about it because I knew it was an issue when I purchased it.

Besides the fact, in the recent few weeks to a month I have been noticing some really weird things. My system seems to lag/freeze at random times, I was afraid it was a software or driver problem at first. So I formatted and re-installed windows xp pro sp2. This did nothing, I'm still noticing problems and I actually emailed Sager this weekend over this issue. Today I decided to do a little research and see if I could find a solution. Then I came to this thread, uhm deja vu. The only difference is that I'm not only noticing it in game play, but aslo in other applications. I was running IE, Word, and Trillian studying for a final and began to notice my system lagging. Now this just shouldn't be happening, there is nothing in those programs that should cause this notebook to lag.

I have mobilmeter install, just never payed much attention to it. Before my system would get up to about 52C and then the fans would kick on and drop it back down to 42C or whatever it is. Now I'm watching it while typing this thread and it's at a constant 50C with no fluctuation. I hit the f10 key to crank up the fans, and now it's back down do 43C. One thing I have notice in the recent weeks, is that my notebook has seemed warmer than usual. My hands have been sweating and are beginning to leave residue on the keys. Another thing I've notice is that my fan seems to always be on, but never seems to kick into high gear. Before it would vary from off-low-high depending on it's need, but never constantly on.

My conclusion is: I updated my bios (v. 1.00.10) and updated the ATI video drivers (v. 8.04) via Sager's Support Site. I think the bios is a possible suspect to our problems. Considering we are all using different video drivers I would not suspect them. Also I am not using RAID, nor dual monitors, or any usb external hardware. So I don't think it's any of those either. The only other possibilies other than the bios is windows updates, but honestly directly after re-installing windows, I was still noticing lag, before I ran updates.

Any other ideas would be helpful.

When I just look at threads and reply like I am doing now, the temp of my 8790-s with Raid and all the goodies minus the TV-Tuner and Bluetooth, the temperaure varies between 38C and 39C. I clean out the exhaust system once a month and notice that near the end of this cycle the temps have raised to the 43C to 44C degree. Normal Household temps are in the 76F to 78F range.

I haven't experience a lag that I have noticed yet; however, have noticed that the mouse is not as responsive. That may be a MS Intellipoint mouse problem or it may be wearing out after only six months of pretty hard use.

g-omaha are you using the latest bios? if so what video drivers are you currently using. also do you have or know where to find the previous version of BIOS. if so you can either email it to me or post a link in here.

shawnk@ou.edu

thanks

oumercury,

I answered your email.

I am using the 01.0.01 and the V8.04 Video drivers from the Sager site. You should be able to get the original BIOS from Sager - Email them and they should respnd. You will need to know which version of the bios you originally had also provide Sager with the Serial number of the machine and they should be able to look it up for you.

Please read this update:

I did as suggested, took the system apart and blew it out with compressed air. Nothing really under the keyboard but my cat does lay on my desk and there was a little hair caught on one of the heat sinks. Which would be the only major cooling blocking culprit I could find. After that still the same issues. I used mobilemeter and I remember seeing like 46-52 on the processor when running intensive apps and the HD's where around 56. So I had enough and got in the car and took a drive to compusa and picked up and Antec laptop cooler. Right now running normal apps (IE, Trillian, Filezilla, Word, SAV) mobilemeter is reporting 44 on the proc and 39 and 36 on the HD's. Huge difference on the HD's. I haven't had time to run EQ and check the temps but it is running like it did the 1st 9 months I have owned it. I just guess the system fans aren't putting out as much as they used to? degrading over time? The fans from what I remember used to hit a highspeed mode (sounded like the laptop was about ot take flight) maybe they are not running as high RPM as they used to? How can I monitor this?

Hello ...

I read this thread after posting my "max fan speed and 2 leds blinking" problem at
http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=54258

I have the exactly same problem as described by most users here. The system is totally lagging for 10-15 with high use. I couldn't find an explanation for the relation between high temperature and lagging but after reading this, I realized it's exactly what im experiencing here as well.

I will go to sager to get a replacement of my unit this week. I will let you know how they handle my issue.

Thanks for all contributors.
-Mat

Okay: Here's a bone!!!!

I have the lag issue as well. I did a dozen things to figure out why Second Life lagged for 45 seconds every two to three minutes. I was kicked back in my chair, feeling grumpy and watching my FPS plummet when I noticed it was quieter than a few seconds earlier. So I waited for the next cycle of lag and...

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The fan on the AC power supply stops working for 45 seconds, during which my system lags significantly!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, the chicken or the egg dilema--is the fan on the power unit actually causing this issue? Or is it a symptom of something else?

hmm interesting. i had the LED problem, but as i havent 3d gamed for ages, i've never experienced any lag problems. with the new bios update, i idle at about 46~48. with the fans on high (fn+f10) idle is at 37/38.

I think its a major problem if your Fn+f10 doesn't work. that should definately work. I use it all the time... I just hit play on my iPod whenever i put them on. I don't know what i'd do if my fn+f10 stopped working. that is something which should really be checked out.

which AC power supply do you have? the older one, which was smaller and hotter? or the bigger one?

there is a 3rd one now (since the 8790 was released) that is compatible with the 8790. maybe its time to upgrade power supplies?

i have the first one. smaller/hotter one.