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post #21 of 34
12/5/04 at 10:25pm
awww well mine is clocked at 250/332 lol I thought that seemed really really low for a graphics clocking lol.
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post #22 of 34
12/5/04 at 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by mcqueen
Yea I aggree we need to get something lined up and let them know cause it is seriously acting wierd I dont think its hardware its just not giveing the normal signs of hardware trouble and its to standard and way to uniform to be something physically wrong if they didnt lock the bios down so much I bet its just a settings issue or something along those lines.
I've just noticed that even when I simply unplug the power my 9860 still slows to a snails pace - this is without any CPU/FSB scaling happening at all (CPU remains at 3.6GHz, FSB remains at 800MHz), in fact it seems to get progresively slower as the battery runs down - at 95% battery power remaining I get 4688 Dhrystones (compared with 10,500 on mains power), at 50% remaining I get 2412 Dhrystones (that's as slow as a Celeron 600 - a FOUR YEAR OLD processor ). There has to be a SERIOUS design flaw/configuration issue here somewhere .
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post #23 of 34
12/5/04 at 10:31pm
yea thats what I am thinking everything I have tested to try to figure out what is up points at a bios problem with power managment and its driving me nuts(specifically the part where I cant change anything and can only look at the bios) wonder who we would have to talk to get a real tech to start looking into this. Other than us all sending back our laptops that is lol.
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post #24 of 34
12/8/04 at 7:34pm
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We now have an official response on this issue from Sager themselves, posted by Luke here...

http://notebookforums.com/showpost.p...6&postcount=27

So that's the end of it, I'll now stop harping on about this and just enjoy my 9860 for what it CAN do.
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post #25 of 34
12/8/04 at 11:18pm
Ok... so its a little (a lot) slow on battery power... What fool is really going to run this monster on just the batteries anyway? I know I'm not; that's like trying to run a race with no motor... Plug it in and be happy...
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post #26 of 34
12/12/04 at 2:23am
Morpheoussc400 if you will read mine its not that I want to run on battery its that it wont run certain applications on AC and they will only run through to completion on battery its really strange to me.
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post #27 of 34
12/13/04 at 9:41am
In luke's post from sager, it said that you shouldnt see an decrease in performance in office type documents, but I was wanting to have that verified from some of you if you dont mind.

The only time i run on battery is when i am studying or surfing the net. If i am going to play a game or burn documents, I will have it plugged in 99% of the time.

thx
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post #28 of 34
12/13/04 at 10:13am
Well, that's good to see. I just ordered a 9860 myself, so at least I know the answer prior to usage. Of course, I doubt I will ever spend much time using it on battery power. Heck, my current laptop has had a dead battery for a year and I've never taken care of that (and it DID travel around with me a lot). Of course, that thing slows to crawl when doing CPU intensive tasks for a bit (battery or no).
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post #29 of 34
12/13/04 at 11:23pm
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Originally Posted by RxLS1
In luke's post from sager, it said that you shouldnt see an decrease in performance in office type documents, but I was wanting to have that verified from some of you if you dont mind.

The only time i run on battery is when i am studying or surfing the net. If i am going to play a game or burn documents, I will have it plugged in 99% of the time.

thx
Up until the battery runs down to less than 50% you won't notice any significant difference with wordprocessing, simple spreadsheets, web browsing and DVD watching (it'll even run Call of Duty with default settings beautifully), but the moment it goes below 50% (usually after about 30-40 minutes) it'll start acting like a tired old Pentium 1 - I'm not joking. Even though it'll achieve a synthetic benchmark similar to a Celeron 600 at 49% battery, it'll perform MUCH MUCH slower in reality. So, as long as you've got 51-99% battery charge left you're fine, after that you'd better plug it back in or turn it off, caus' it'll be almost useless.
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post #30 of 34
1/13/05 at 1:01am
Its been really informative reading all your posts about this, so thankyou for sharing. I've been thinking about getting the 9860, but am still deciding. So besides the battery/power issues, would you all still reccommend it? I haven't read any other significant issues anyone has had on these boards...?
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post #31 of 34
1/13/05 at 1:03am
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Definitely still recommend the 9860! It's an awesome beast of a machine.
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post #32 of 34
3/4/05 at 3:44am
Hey Andre,
You have one sweet laptop there, the only weak componet on your spec list is of course the QSI unit. Korean old tech, export only and without Sager, impossible to update firmware or get any tech help.There are a million open and active pleas for help from endusers on net that watched their unit explode a week after their warranty expired or had to get it repaired four times in first year. QSI website is an excercise in avoiding the issues or even truth. They will even tell you that they don't make cdr units if they think that will run you off. At least the price very low if and when you need another one, eh?

QSI is short for "low price leader", kinda like those fake A51m lappies at ebay that were so bad the optical bays were just drawn on lines. To be fair to all concerned, most of the probs are with the combination unit and even Aw quietly slipped it off the options list in favor of Lite-on.
The future looks bright, with better products that in the end are cheaper for factory, since they no longer have to pay for warranty work, admin or shipping. Straight up! I hope I live long enough to see it, thats all.
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post #33 of 34
3/16/05 at 1:20am
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Originally Posted by andrepeterhill
We now have an official response on this issue from Sager themselves, posted by Luke here...

http://notebookforums.com/showpost.p...6&postcount=27

So that's the end of it, I'll now stop harping on about this and just enjoy my 9860 for what it CAN do.
Thats good news that they are working on a fix for us. I wonder how much it is going to cost us when a fix becomes available. =/
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post #34 of 34
3/16/05 at 1:54am
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That was the last response from Sager a VERY long time ago and unfortunately I don't expect we'll ever see any improvement. Since writing my first post I've done a lot more research on battery technology and I now realise that the problem is a physical (chemical) one to do with the way batteries work, even lithium ion batteries (the most powerful) simply can't withstand the amount of current draw that's required by the 9860 to run at full speed, and as the batteries drain they can withstand less and less current draw which is why the 9860's performance drops from 65% to as little as 10% of normal as the batteries run down. Until a new battery technology is released (maybe fuel cells) there is really no hope that we'll ever see these kinds of DTR notebooks offering either decent battery life or performance.
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