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post #1 of 35
Thread Starter 
Hello, everyone. I just registered myself on this forum to share my alienware-experience with you guys.
I am waiting for my Area-51m 7700 to be arrived.
I originally placed an order for Area-51m 5500 on October 21 but later I changed it into 7700 around November 7.
Just like other people who pre-ordered their 7700, I am also on phase 2.

Here's my complaint.
First, when I changed my 5500 to 7700 I called them to change my order.
They made two mistakes. One, they placed my memory card as 2*512 instead of 1*1024. Two, they registered my email address wrong.
It took me about 2 weeks to fixt it. I had to send them emails multiple times and called them three times to fix the problems.
I was okay with it. Because I understood it could happen to anyone.
There again, they sent me an email advising me to upgrade my warranty at 10% discount price.
And my boyfriend who initially suggested me to buy an Alienware also suggested me to get a 3 years warranty.
I tried to access the link they gave me through the email, it showed me another person's name and the product he ordered.
So I called them.
A woman answered so I told her I would like to upgrade my warranty but I haven't gotten my computer yet.
She sounded confused and told me the email I got was supposed to be sent to people who already owned alienwares. That told me I got a wrong email.
And she told me to wait, so I waited on the phone about 10 minutes.
She came back and suddenly asked me [How old I am].
I was kind of surprised and confused but I told her my age which is 27.
She said [No, you cannot be 27!].
I was like what the !@#$ but I told her my birthdate.
After that she started to ask me in a very rude and inappropriate manner about what I wanted. I told her I wanted to upgrade my warranty but I wanted to know what warranty options they could provide me.
She said [Go look on the website.]
At the time, my confusion and anger exploded so I told her I did not appreciate her attitude toward her customer. And I asked her name.
She gave me her first name which is Pat in the sales department.
So I asked her last name, she said [I do not have to give you that.]
So I asked her to put her supervisor on the phone.
She made me waited another 10 minutes and finally her "supervisor" answered.
He called me a sir, so I told him I am a ma'am.
He answered he could not confirm my gender by my name so he decided to call me a sir. He made me more upset.
So I was about to yell at him, they disconnected me.

I called again, waited another 10 minutes or so.
I asked the person who answered to put Pat's supervisor on the phone.
They handed my call to the customer support department without me knowing.
Then the supervior of customer support answered.
So I asked him if it's an appropriate manner to ask a customer about her age without explaining beforehand.
He said [He didn't see why.]
It was like I was complaining to people who did not know about the customer support at all.
After all arguments and what not, he apologized me and explained to me as following.

1. I am a korean living in California without an english name.
He said, they could not identify my gender through my name.
=> Okay, I understand. Then why did Pat's supervisor treat me that way
instead of asking my gender politely?????
2. Because of my english accent and my voice, they thought I am a kid who
gave a prank call. And they got many phone calls from kids in everywhere.
=> Okay, it's understandable. At the same time, it's the age discrimination.
As a prefessional company that handles customers who are more than
willing to pay 3700 USD to their hardwares, they are obligated to serve
their customers regardless of their age!!!
That is, even if I was a kid, they were supposed to treat me as their
customer.

Besides of that, you don't assume anything about your customer and you don't treat your customer in that ridiculously rude manner.

Even more upsetting about their customer support is, the customer support supervisor put me on hold to connect me to another sales representative so that I could upgrade my warranty.
I waited 30 minutes and finally one came on the phone.
After explaining to her what I wanted "again", she said she could not confirm if I am eligible for warranty upgrade or not. So she promised to give me a call.
Of course, she didn't call me at all.
So I called again after few days and finally could upgrade my warranty.

I am buying a laptop at the cost of 3700 USD because of the well-known performance of Alienware.
However, because of that experience I had with the Pat person and the long ass time I have to wait for getting my laptop, I am not satisfied at all.
Even I started to have a doubt about the performance of 7700 if I might get a bad one just like some other Alienware owners in this forum.
I don't know what I would do if I were in that bad case.

Alienware,
I don't think you guys deserve "the best customer support in the industry" title. And I strongly suggest to educate your employees what is the true customer support.
post #2 of 35
Sad to hear you had such a bad time. I've had one for a few months now and I've only had one issue and they are willing to fix it in several different ways. Since I don't trust myself, I'm going to send it in. Every company has their bad apples, just sounds like you got your bad ones all in one day. You are alot more understand then some and if I were you I would follow up on the rude way this pat character handled this. This is obviously something that needs to be taken care of or alienware might lose that honor of having the best customer service in the industry. besides, I just flat out hate it when someone pulls a rude line on me. I work in customer service alot, mostly over the phone. I've never had a customer ask for my sup. because I'm rude.

I would call them back and speak with them. Be nice, ask for a supervisor and specify in the sales dept. Raise a little ruckus about it, she over stepped her bounds. It should be noted on file. Maybe if you kick up enough fuss you may get compensated. That was insanely rude and even I feel you deserve something for that. However, Idon't recommend that you get rude about it, not very anyway. That is the quickest way to make them want to hang up.
post #3 of 35
Call them back, the conversation should like this...

Politely get in contact with a supervisor, explain to them (calmly) what happened. Inform them, as you did with us, how upset you are over the situation and how you do not feel like a valued customer and you'd like to cancel your order if you're going to be treated this way. At this point, you'll be compensated appropriately for the rude treatment, or you'll be told to not let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. If the latter occurs, then cancelling the order is the best thing to do anyway.
post #4 of 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by Babycries
One, they placed my memory card as 2*512 instead of 1*1024.
You may want to give this a thought. Unlike the 5500, the 7700 is Dual Channel, for this to work to its full potential, you will need two cards. Just wanted to point that out in case you didn't know.

edit 1 - actually, looking at their site, 1x1024 is not an option on the configuration screen, so that is probably why they did this option
post #5 of 35
Babycries,

I've sent a Private Message off to one of the Alienware customer support reps that frequents these boards concerning your issue. He is usually in on Monday mornings so give them sometime to contact you via this message board to see what assistance they may be.

Alienware has been nothing short of excellent for 95% of the people on these forums...its a shame to see an issue like this come up but rest assured, they will do everything in their power (they always do!) to make this a smooth transaction for you.

Hang in there and enjoy the forums.
post #6 of 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by Babycries
....they are obligated to serve
their customers regardless of their age!!!
That is, even if I was a kid, they were supposed to treat me as their
customer.

Besides of that, you don't assume anything about your customer and you don't treat your customer in that ridiculously rude manner.

Heh Not gonna comment at all about the service, I gotta agree with others that have already stated their opinions, and anything I say would most likely be redundant...

However this part rang a bell with me, some years ago I was working as a retail supervisor for a larger chain of stores in the NorthEast. My best friend at the time needed a hand picking up a couch for his mother at another store near where he lived. I went with him and saw some things I was interested in possibly purchasing, but figured I would come back in another week or two after I get paid and maybe think about it then...

When they were done with the paperwork we drove around back(His mother was dealing with the paperwork we were left pretty much alone) and went to the loading dock. A guy I recognized as the general manager of the store(I saw his tag close up earlier) came out to the loading dock, and started ridiculing my friend and I about picking up a couch for his mother..

Heh I refused to go back there, they lost several thousand dollars in buisness(I actually was furnishing my apartment at the time) and that was the freaking closest I have come to telling someone off, especially when I have more management experience and deal with more employees than he will ever get at the store he worked at, even though I was younger than him(At the time I was pretty young though had been a supervisor in charge of most of the stores operations during the day for some time).

It amazes me sometimes what passes for a manager and management material, especially in an industry so CS centered as retail. I dont think this is the case with Alienware from what I have heard, however it does just amze me that people think they can get away with that. Some descrimination based on age(I use discrimination only for lack of a better word right now, is not really what I meant) is a given due to the fact that there is usually a parent around watching a kid and if a kid comes in the parent usually approves the purchase(Most of the time, but not always they will be the ones paying anyways), but you still treat them well and help them as much as you can none the less. Plus they have good memories as a kid, they will have good memories as an adult, you would be amazed how many people I grew up with think Toys R Us was the bomb for buying stuff as a kid even though they havent been there in a while(Read years) would still probably take their kids there at the same time. Kids remember things into adulthood, and that can mean more buisness later if you are steady enough to last that long.

Seablade
post #7 of 35
Absolutely. This is not acceptable. You can rest assured that it will be handled in the most serious manner. and welcome to the forum. Its a pleasure to have you with us.
post #8 of 35
Thread Starter 
Dear Craig

I really appreciate you for your great concern and support.
I am dissappointed as much as the trust I used to have in Alienware.
I hope they will look into my problem and this kind of incidents will not happen in the future to anyone who love Alienware.
Thank you so much for taking my complaint into consideration.
post #9 of 35
Babycries, sorry about your experience. In case you do decide to cancel your order, you should know that all is not lost. The same computer is available from Sager, PCTorque, Hypersonic, Eurocom, Voodoo, Discountlaptops and more. Actually if you only care for performance and not alien eyes on your laptop (which are admittedly cool) I'd opt for PCT. You'd get the laptop within the week unless something is backordered and its cheaper. Personnally I don't get why alienware doesn't offer SATA drives yet in its Clevo D900P computer; the SATA drives supposedly perform better in RAID 0 than a 7600 RPM ATA.

Btw, Alienware is reselling the Clevo chassis. Thats why the same computer is available at many places. Hope this helps...
post #10 of 35
HI, shame to hear about your experience.
It happens a lot that people complain about service with one company,but others seemingly have no hassle at all. So far I can say I had good service from PC Torque answering my emails and questions, even if I ordered from Hypersonic for International reasons ( I live in NZ), both have given outstanding service, but you will now and then find people complaining about Hypersonic or Sager to.
It does happen. I hope you find a resolution to your problem and get the service you pay for
post #11 of 35
How does that saying go??

"Assumption is the mother of all f#ck ups."

When I used to be in retail, a lot of sales people assumed that if they saw a person, they could determine whether he or she was a big spender or not by their appearance. It got one guy in trouble because he treated a customer like sh1t and the customer happened to be good friends with the GM of the store and also worth 100 million... he was dressed in raggy jeans and a t-shirt so you wouldn't know he had money.

No matter what they shouldn't have treated you that way because a sale is a sale, even if it's a 7700 or an AW mug.
post #12 of 35
Good point Twopiece, and very true. I usually not only wear raggy jeans and such when on my own time because they are just more comfortable, but when I go to buy Cars, jewelry, or anything rather expensive where the salesperson draws comission, I intentionally do so. Not even so much to leave the impression of less wealth, so much as to get an impression of the people. Bad judgement has made a big difference in sells people losing commission on our last two car purchases. For my wifes prior car, we went to look at Mazda's and BMW's, we left that day with a BMW mainly because the Mazda dealer wouldn't even help us. On my last car, we were looking at 4 Runner's and the Isuzu Trooper I now have. The Toyota salesperson went so far as to tell me that he didn't have time to deal with me because it was his busiest sales day and he really didn't think I could afford the car. He wouldn't even unlock the car. Well, I did, look at a 4 runner elsewhere, but decided on the Trooper. In that instance, I went back to the place and asked the same sales person if I could speak with the sales manager. I did, explained the situation, the comments made and showed the invoice on my new car. Not that I usually make it a point of doing this, because it is not really usually worth my time, but when people go out of their way to offend me simply because of their lack of being able to read people, it is worth the time.
post #13 of 35
Babycries:

I apologize for the confusing and treatment you went through. PM with you account info and I will look into this.

I will bring this up to the appropriate personnel.

We are here to help. We want to make your experience with Alienware a better one.
post #14 of 35
Thread Starter 
Dear Alienware-JuanG

Thank you for your concern.
I sent you a private message with my account information.
And I would like to say thank-you to everyone in this forum who listened to my problem.
Actually I am impressed about the fact that Alienware has many fans even though it's just another computer company.
Also I am glad that people in the company try to show they're listening to their customers. So it led me to believe there should be a reason for this company to be on top of the industry for almost 10 years.
I didn't want too much things from this company as a customer, and I still don't.
I hope you will understand all I needed was just getting my laptop as I want.

Also I am not in a situation which allows me to send my laptop to a factory for a week or so. Because my laptop will be the one and only computer for me as long as I stay in US.
That means if my laptop is gone bad, I will be totally screwed up.
I came from Korea to support my company's business in US.
I have a laptop which I have been using for about 2 years, but it started going really bad. I was suggested to get a laptop with a support from my company but if I did, then I could only buy a toshiba or a dell which I do not like at all.
Not only I cannot upgrade the components but there is the performance issue with them. And they will not be capable to handle games I want to play either.
So I decided to buy an Alienware at my own cost.

Just let me have my laptop as perfect as it could. Then I will be fully content.

Thank you.
post #15 of 35
Quote:
Also I am not in a situation which allows me to send my laptop to a factory for a week or so. Because my laptop will be the one and only computer for me as long as I stay in US.
That means if my laptop is gone bad, I will be totally screwed up.
I came from Korea to support my company's business in US.
I have a laptop which I have been using for about 2 years, but it started going really bad. I was suggested to get a laptop with a support from my company but if I did, then I could only buy a toshiba or a dell which I do not like at all.
Not only I cannot upgrade the components but there is the performance issue with them. And they will not be capable to handle games I want to play either.
So I decided to buy an Alienware at my own cost.
K, I'm gonna sound like an Alienware basher but, considering your needs, you might want to rethink the order. I think Alienware tends to be very slow doing what needs to be done when one of its comps is sent back to the factory. I'm sure alienware owners who've dealt with them can inform you better on this.

Unless you only mean you can't send your current laptop away for a week but the AW you could live without for that period if there's a problem? I'm pretty sure I've read about AW keeping laptops for about a month or so but I may be mistaken...
post #16 of 35
any computer company will make a mistake here or there, but it does seem that alienware takes longer to fix whats wrong. I really hate to say this but you might want to get something else because the 7700 will be new and might have some bugs to fix. You might want to consider going with the 5500 again, its tried and true and works
post #17 of 35
or with the 9860 from Sager which is the same computer as the 7700 (or from Hypersonic, Voodoo if you swim in money, Discountlaptops if you want accidental insurance, PCTorque if you want good service and the cheapest price, etc) I'm not sure if its a good idea to buy from Alienware if you're using it for business. Being new, even from other resellers its a bit of a risk though its definitely the most powerful laptop out there right now.
post #18 of 35
You want a funny story....

AW did an unauthorized charge on my card for $40, when I told him to take it off you know what his reply was....

"Well, Sir...it's only $40."

So I asked HIM to pay for it.... he did not like that.
post #19 of 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoBoZoBo
You want a funny story....

AW did an unauthorized charge on my card for $40, when I told him to take it off you know what his reply was....

"Well, Sir...it's only $40."

So I asked HIM to pay for it.... he did not like that.
The agent you spoke to is looking into this matter.
post #20 of 35
I am not talkting to that particular representative right now.

I finally got in touch with a supervisor and he is looking into the matter...but the comment was unwarrented and unprofessional. I was not rude to the guy.
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