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post #1 of 90
12/4/04 at 8:36pm
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For those of you who may have noticed, I've been posting quite a few threads about how I want to purchase a new gaming notebook. I've been wanting the Acer Ferrari 3200 for a while, but am now kinda starting to lean towards gettin' an XPS; I really want a top notch gaming notebook. The only flaw I find with the XPS is its weight and size. I don't really travel all too much right now, but I will start college soon, and do want something with great gaming power and incredible portability. Does anyone else have any alterative laptop/notebook reccommendations for me that possesss, if not, succeed the XPS? The suggested notebooks/laptops should be priced around the same about as well (I'd say around ~$3300). They can be pre-set, or customizably configured laptops/notebooks. I just don't want to have to lug around such a big thing. And I dislike that whole backpack thingy they (DELL) give you when you order the notebook. I mean, I like the fact that it's "free," but I AM NOT going to reserve my back for just a notebook.
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post #2 of 90
12/4/04 at 9:54pm
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a top notch gaming notebook (...) with great gaming power and incredible portability
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This is just impossible today. I think even a new PCI-e P-M doesn't have both carachteristics. Or maybe 'incredible portability' means something different to you...
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post #3 of 90
12/4/04 at 9:58pm
To get portability you can't have better than Radeon 9700 right now...
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post #4 of 90
12/4/04 at 10:10pm
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Originally Posted by DDDa
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This is just impossible today. I think even a new PCI-e P-M doesn't have both carachteristics. Or maybe 'incredible portability' means something different to you...

Yeah BadBoy,

In one of your other threads you mentioned XPS beating Alienware in overall power and performance, but you seem to be harking back to the bulky size of the XPS as a detering purchase factor. In extrapolating what DDDa is saying, he's right that these super laptops are leading toward more of a desktop replacement, or a kind of minimum upgrade "form factor" you can lug around. You're simply not going to find anything that is light, portable, and powerful - Alienware comes closest to your needs in terms of a slimmer notebook, but even the new Area-51 is beginning to accept the inevitable size vs. power expectations.

I suggest you purchase a nice oversize Targus bag you can fit your lappy, games, and study books into, and accept carrying around 11 LBS of XPS on top of your text books weight.

If you want slim, get an Inspiron 1000. They sell those at the Dell kiosk in the mall!
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post #5 of 90
12/4/04 at 11:25pm
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Originally Posted by Sanna
To get portability you can't have better than Radeon 9700 right now...


I think this about sums it up right now. If you can live with the 9700 (which is a great card, imho) then you can have the best of both worlds. If you just have to have 9800 or xxxxx or think that PCI-e is going to be the next big thing, then you're just not gonna get portable. At least not right now. I, personally, don't think that PCI-e is going to be all that and a bag of chips, but it remains to be seen what kind of cards folks will produce in this format so my opinion is shallow at this point in time.
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post #6 of 90
12/4/04 at 11:29pm
$3,300 will buy you a good desktop and a portable laptop. That's essentially what I'm doing. Athlon64 loaded (well not so loaded to people...spoiled more than me or people who have jobs) PC, and a CL56 with a MR9700 128. I don't think you'll want to play Doom3 in class (and if you do want to do this, I'm doing this out of my kind heart and concern for your academic health)

Edit: Oh and, while the laptop isn't stunning, it IS still HL2/Doom3 capable, therefore giving you two systems to play the games on if you're a loser like me and doesn't get out of his chair. Someone else can use your laptop to play. It'll be a great bonding experience or something x.x
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post #7 of 90
12/5/04 at 1:44am
CL56, AOpen, M6N (err..even with the 64mb) are about as good as you can get with mobility AND performance. If you want to give up some mobility (lets say 2 hours battery and 7 lbs) you can get the uniwill 259
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post #8 of 90
12/5/04 at 8:50pm
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Yay!

Okay please don't laugh. I just got my first job; at a local Arby's. The sad thing is: I'll be starting off with a wage of $5.50 an hour :-( . Anyways, getting to the point...I really want to get a gaming notebook. Now, more than every, I'm thinking about purchasing a DELL Inspiron XPS. By the time I save up enough money to get one, however, I fear that there will be far more better gaming notebooks (in terms of performance) out there. I'm trying to save up to at least maybe ~$3500? Anyways, I speculate that I'll have that much money around June or so. I wanted to know from you guys, what kinds of really awesome and powerful notebooks will be coming out (I know you guys aren't fortune tellers or psychics or anything like that, but just tell me anything you guys have heard of, like the news or etc). I would really appreciate it; I'd be able to put my really hard earned cash to good use. Also, I'll probably be starting university in fall.
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post #9 of 90
12/5/04 at 8:54pm
For $3500 you get a really nice notebook!!

The MR x800 is coming out now and will be cheap in june maybe.
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post #10 of 90
12/5/04 at 9:10pm
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Is the MR x800 the new PCI-e card they're gonna be coming out with? If so, from what I know (which isn't too muc by the way, so please don't blast me people!), isn't it correct that you cannot get it for the current XPS? You'd have to get the next generation XPS, right? So is it just better off for me to wait for the next gen; since it'll take me a heck of a while to scrape up that much dough? Any/all advice/opinions would be highly appreciated.
Thanks!
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post #11 of 90
12/5/04 at 9:35pm
possibly the sager 9680... 17inch screen + nvidia's 6800 in PciE. if you're in a hurry.

As for waiting for the next gen, it really depends on what kind of system you have.

IMO, if i was saving up $3500 for a laptop, i would make sure i get something that isn't outdated fast. Most people say PciE doesn't increase performance much (in desktops btw) but in laptops if the graphics cards can truly be upgraded that would be a HUGE improvement because that is usually the bottleneck.

But by June, PciE might be standard in notebooks... it just depends. New stuff is coming out now, so all the new stuff will be finished coming out before the mad rush to buy (before school)

Edit: mobility x800 is ATI's next offering for PCIe. I thinks its the same as the 9800.... not sure though.
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post #12 of 90
12/5/04 at 10:01pm
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So...hmm...if I'm gonna wait, what exactly do you guys think I should wait for? Lol. Because, I'm pretty sure that the XPS of today, will sure to be outdated. I want a "top notch" gaming machine. Most preferably from DELL, I guess; since they have the #1 gaming notebook out right now. I know that the same notebook cannot be #1 forever, because technology is constantly evolving at every given moment. Still, I do want the best machine for gaming, during that June-ish time period. This will also be my first notebook purchase, so I do want it to be a wise decision; not something I want to be regretting; working my a** off for nothing. Taking into account what Zarfol said, I do want to get something that will last me quite long while, dare I say a few years? Also, it should definately be something that has lots of upgradability.
THANKS!
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post #13 of 90
12/5/04 at 10:07pm
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Also, can someone please explain to me:
What PCI-e is?
What its advantages/disadvantages are supposed to be?
(PLEASE do excuse my ignorance!)
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Overall, do you guys think I should really even wait to
spend that $3500, or should I just purchase this XPS that's
out right now, when I get the money?
If so, please do explain your reasoning behind your
thoughs.
THANKS!
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post #14 of 90
12/5/04 at 10:27pm
BadBoy787512: Problems deciding?

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=52807
http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=53059
http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=53071
http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=53079
http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=53200

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post #15 of 90
12/5/04 at 10:30pm
Dude, thats a nice laptop to get. But, I would start saving your 3500, wait for a while until your close to going to school then go out and get something then.

When then arrives I would spend no more than 1500 to 1700. Because in less than 6 months whatever you buy will be overtaken by new tech. You will also have less buyers remorse. Take the $2000 to $1800 you saved by staying in the 1500 to 1700 dollar range and go out and buy yourself some stock in a couple compaines and leave it be.

I know it sounds boring but even if you didnt add to the stock when you are ready to retire that 2000 to 1800 hundred dollars will do you more good than spending the extra on that laptop.

Im not sure but I believe there is some good gaming machines out there for 1700 if thats what you intend to do with it.

Didnt mean to ramble....
Phazor
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post #16 of 90
12/5/04 at 10:33pm
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Hmm...I'll have to really think hard on it, lol. It's giving me a real heahache right now.
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post #17 of 90
12/5/04 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by BadBoy787512
Okay please don't laugh. I just got my first job; at a local Arby's. The sad thing is: I'll be starting off with a wage of $5.50 an hour :-(
No laughing, but the really sad thing is that 5.50 will be less after taxes.

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I'd be able to put my really hard earned cash to good use. Also, I'll probably be starting university in fall.
I dont want to tell you what to do with the money you earned, but if you want to put that earned cash to good use, dont blow 3500 on a laptop. Put it towards your college courses or buy some stocks, a cd. You could even go get a $500 cheap computer from bestbuy and still have money left over.

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Hmm...I'll have to really think hard on it, lol. It's giving me a real heahache right now.
You got time... take out a piece of paper and write down you wants and needs with pros and cons.
Deals come and go. But once the moneys gone its gone..
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post #18 of 90
12/5/04 at 11:20pm
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Yeah, you are right. But I do want a pretty kick-a** gaming notebook, one that outdoes most other laptops.
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post #19 of 90
12/5/04 at 11:29pm
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Also

It isn't like I'm gonna be playing during class or anything. I'm not even sure they really allow you to place the laptops on your test or whatever during lectures and what not. However, I do want something that compares with, and competes against, what most other gamers have (I know, I know, not every gamer buys the same laptop from the same company, etc, etc); you know, I just don't wanna be left behind in the cold (technology wise, even though technology is constanlty evolving). Can you guys make any reccommendations as to other notebooks I should consider (cheapter, and preferably just as powerful); a notebook that should at least last me like 3 or 4 years; yes, that is quite a while. But, I do not have to constantly in sync with the technological world, at all times, or do I?
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post #20 of 90
12/5/04 at 11:39pm
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Well, you guys are right in that I do say some ignorant things; sorry. It's just that it worries me so much how quickly things can become obsolete. I just don't wanna end up spending so much money on something, and then having it end up as complete and total crap, a few months later. That "something" I keep talking about, in this case, are laptops (obviously). I know that it's not neccessary for me to be blowing $3500 on a lappy, but based on my "ultimate" gaming needs, I believe that that much money will get me what I want to satisfy myself; that may be another example of my stupidity. When ever I do my research on gaming laptops, I just get so eager; looking for the most expensive laptops (thinking that more expensive is more better). I guess that is my only real problem. The only real reason I may be going after this Inspiron XPS for, so much, is probably the fact that based on most of the reviews I've read, that it currently the #1 gaming notebook out there.
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