Upgrading desktop - Page 2

So you're dumping dual channel?

Oh well, Try Newegg for the 9800pro.

If you want cheap, you could probobly go with a newegg Refurbish:

Refurbished Sapphire 9800pro $165

I would never suggest a Powercolour card. Ive had one and my friend's got one, never got great clocks with them, my friend's 9800XT couldnt go beyond stock by 10MHz on core AND memory even with an ATi Silencer on it and my 9800np got stuck with the worst type of memory and the core was below average on the overclocks.

So the next one i will suggest is a:

HIS Radeon 9800pro ICEQ $235

Used to be really sought after because of the cooling package because that came bundled with the card before Arctic Cooling actually started shipping it's VGA coolers. Anyway, this includes an Artic Silencer VGA Silencer. One of the best VGA aftermarket coolers money can buy. The only thing better than that cooler MAY be the ATi Silencer 1, though not by much and a custom CPU heatsink made to fit a video card.

Everything else is out of stock so...
But if you can, the Sapphire 9800pro is the best 9800pro available.


The XP-90 is in stock in SVC as well if you're in the states, i think they should have it for you by friday.

XP-90 $39.99

Anyway, MSI is a pretty decent brand, I found a rather cheap MSI i865PE chipset motherboard for you. It's $17 more expensive than your current solution. Will you buy dual channel and SATA Raid for $17?

MSI 865PE Neo2-V $73

It supports your CPU, well it should since it's a 865PE chipset, but here's the CPU support list for you just to be sure.

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/produc...UID=612&kind=1


OK, good luck.

no worries m8. Newegg just tried to avoid problems by saying it didnt support 400fsb because there are alot of Williamette 400fsb cores compared to Northwood 400fsb cores. So they avoid alot of incompatability problems.

Keep us posted. Before/After benchmarks? Pics?

Good deal,

anything you do, don't get anything that has P-4E lable on it. The prescotts are so hot and consume so much power that a couple of my friends are having serious trouble keeping them running in their old cases and power supplies (~350W). I have even heard stories of people having to RMA them due to serious overheating and instability. Stay away from that at all cost if you want a stable and long lasting system.

Well, prescotts are fine if you have a high end cooling system, either high end air with a good Thermalright sink, or water or better. With that, prescotts actually clock pretty high. All of them are very overclockable once you get past the heat problems.

Anyway, he's thinking of an A64 system, not a P4 system.

If you go the A64 route, I'd try to get a Socket 939 CPU, for upgradability. And also check the Latency of the PC3200 RAM to get the best bang for the buck. (The A64's performance depends greatly on the RAM its paired with.)

I'm assuming you mean you can't get the system to POST, not boot. Are you hearing any beep codes? Did your mainboard come with an onboard video card?

Try the troubleshooting steps on this page:
http://www.pcguide.com/ts/x/comp/mbsys/gen_Failure.htm

Make sure you are using 1 of the 3 DIMM Module Combinations that work for Dual Channel Memory on your mobo according to its specs. I looked up the detailed specs and it has a table that lists the accepted combinations for Dual Channel DDR. (Since your PQI RAM is Dual Channel DDR.)

http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...eo2-F&class=mb

The Dual Channel Combinations are shown in the first table on that page.

yea, losing dual channel in an intel rig is really bad. Intel P4's gobble up RAM bandwith. Anyway, if none of the DIMM slot configs work, then u gotta RMA the board. Then Benchies, Benchies Benchies, piccys, piccs piccys!!!!

we need a password...

yea, password needed, either make it a public album or post the links.

oh, and we need benchies too