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post #41 of 52
On battery with the reduced performance, you can still play games like World of Warcraft without a problem. It can also handle watching dvd's, browsing the web, coding, web design....

I never intended to play Half-life2 on battery, just watch movies or check email every now and then.
post #42 of 52
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Originally Posted by MaxyM
andrepeterhill,

What are the settings (resolution,bpp,...) that allow playable framerates on 9860 when 'unplugged'?

Also, can you estimate in percent how much is 9860 slower then 8790 in DC mode.
Well Medal of Honour Pacific Assault, Doom3, Half-Life 2 and Far Cry would be unplayable no matter what settings you use, I haven't tried Call of Duty yet but I suspect the same story, the original Medal of Honour/Wolfenstein may be OK on lowest resolution with lowest settings but I haven't tried them yet either - I think playing pretty much any 3D intensive game like recent first person shooters/simulation games is out of the question on battery power with the 9860. Comparing the 9860 to the 8790 running on battery power, a 3.6GHz 9860 is 50-80% slower than a 3.4GHz 8790, 50% slower when the battery is almost fully charged, 80% slower when the battery has less than 50% charge left.
post #43 of 52
I take it back, I just ran Call of Duty on a fully charged battery with high settings (no AA or Aniso) at 1024x768 and it played fine, I'll have to try a few other games and let the battery run right down before I make a final conclusion on this one but it looks like the CPU/Memory throttling as extreme as it is - doesn't affect some 3D games too badly.
post #44 of 52
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Originally Posted by andrepeterhill
I take it back, I just ran Call of Duty on a fully charged battery with high settings (no AA or Aniso) at 1024x768 and it played fine, I'll have to try a few other games and let the battery run right down before I make a final conclusion on this one but it looks like the CPU/Memory throttling as extreme as it is - doesn't affect some 3D games too badly.
to tell u the truth why dont u just send it back the differnce from a centrino 2.1ghz from a 3.6ghz is ver little differnce at all the only major differnce from u system from mine is the video card if our video card was simialr we would all get the same benchmarks. i would return it back and wait for the new centrinos when the ha=ve a more powerful graphics card unless if ur always goign to be plugged in cause that graphics card is pointless if it only works to it s max when plugged in that mean my 9700 will be whiopping ur compouters butt of batter cause i can play all high setting with my cl56.
post #45 of 52
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Originally Posted by Davidlove
to tell u the truth why dont u just send it back the differnce from a centrino 2.1ghz from a 3.6ghz is ver little differnce at all the only major differnce from u system from mine is the video card if our video card was simialr we would all get the same benchmarks. i would return it back and wait for the new centrinos when the ha=ve a more powerful graphics card unless if ur always goign to be plugged in cause that graphics card is pointless if it only works to it s max when plugged in that mean my 9700 will be whiopping ur compouters butt of batter cause i can play all high setting with my cl56.
You Centrino plus high-end gpu people just don't seem to get it...

It's just not going to happen any time soon...its like trying to cram the viper v-10 under the hood of a dodge neon...its an engine and a chassis designed with 2 different purposes and they won't be in the same notebook before the 9860 is outdated anyway
post #46 of 52
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Originally Posted by jethro9001
You Centrino plus high-end gpu people just don't seem to get it...

It's just not going to happen any time soon...its like trying to cram the viper v-10 under the hood of a dodge neon...its an engine and a chassis designed with 2 different purposes and they won't be in the same notebook before the 9860 is outdated anyway
Why not?! R9600/R9700 where high-end GPU-s until yesterday, and there are bunch of Centrino based laptops with these chips. There is no reason why it wouldn't happen with Go6800 or X800.
post #47 of 52
MaxyM is right about there being Go6800 PCIe based Centrino's on the way, Eurocom have one on display under their "Future" heading at www.eurocom.com with a January 15th prediction I believe - so not far away, however - my reason for getting the 9860 wasn't just to have a fast CPU/GPU combination - there are other advantages as well;

1) The 3.6GHz P4 still outpaces even the 2.1GHz Centrino quite substantially in 3D Rendering and Video Encoding - the two things I use my CPU for most. 2) The 9860 also has the largest and one of the most beautiful laptop screens I've ever seen - the only Centrino based lappies with a similar screen thus far are a Sony Vaio model and Dell's new 17", both of which only come with the R9700 GPU. 3) The 9860 supports 2 super-fast and large SATA hard drives in a RAID configuration (53MB/s) which is of a huge benefit to video editing. 4) The 9860 supports up to 2GB of DDR533 in cheap 512Mb modules - essential for ultra-high res. 3D rendering. 5) The 9860 has 2 firewire ports and 4 USB 2.0 ports - essential for avoiding the need for external hubs when connecting multiple I/O devices. 6) The 9860 has a built-in USB 2.0 7-in-1 card reader which is very useful for exchanging large files with my PDA/digital camera. 7) The 9860 has DVI and HDTV out for optimal image quality when outputting to our Church projection system. 8) The 9860 has a serial, a parallel and a PS/2 port- useful for connecting to server consoles, external power converters and old label printers in the course of my work. 9) The 9860 has dual optical drive bays enabling me to perform quick copies of DVDs/CDs and to multi-task better without having to swap disks all the time. 10) The 9860 has very good built-in speakers for a laptop - that supply plenty of volume and clarity and at least some bass. 11) The 9860 has a full-size keyboard with numeric keypad - very useful for repetitive data entry and general typing in the course of my work. 12) The 9860 has a very good quality webcam built-in. 13) The 9860 supports all the fastest current and upcoming GPUs with full 256Mb (maybe even 512Mb in future) onboard graphics memory for hi-res texturing. 14) The 9860 supports both 54g Wi-Fi and Bluetooth (for my bluetooth mouse and PDA) concurrently alongside the built-in S-Video/CATV-Composite TV tuner and capture card. 15) The 9860 is the most sturdy notebook (outside military notebooks) that I've ever seen/handled.

Show me a Centrino based notebook that can surpass all of the above and MAYBE I'll consider it. Lol
post #48 of 52
It's interesting to note that the Eurocom laptop only comes with a 128MB version GPU and doesn't come with the x800, comes with the x600 instead.
post #49 of 52
Thread Starter 
Maklar,

Probably because X600 is currently the onliest available ATI GPU for PCI-e.

You have it already on Acer TravelMate, and soon on HP Pavillion series laptops.
post #50 of 52
Thread Starter 
andrepeterhill,

I think Centrino based laptop with ATI X800(mobile) configured like 9860 would be ideal desktop-replacement for all-around use. (e.g. mostly gaming, office applications, some 2D design etc.)
post #51 of 52
Hmm, you may be right MaxyM, but I'd be happier with two Centrino's running in parrallel for improved 3D rendering performance!!! - with the option to turn one of them off for battery use, now THAT would really ROCK! Maybe Sager/Clevo will consider a high end Centrino version of the 8790/9860 in the future.
post #52 of 52
Thread Starter 
Dell XPS 2 seems like a dream come true, it's Centrino based, 30% less heavy, more then double the battery time, it only misses one (important) thing. It doesn't have separate numeric pad (not that I enter lots of numbers into the computer but it comes quite handy in some programs like Blender 3D, and it looks much better with num-pad).

But in this part of Europe we have to wait for ages until Dell starts shipping their newes products.

Who knows maybe Sager (Clevo) next top-of-the-line product includes Centrino&Go6800Ultra combination.
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