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post #41 of 50
mmmmm..........wrath......
post #42 of 50
nothing like a good wrathing...
post #43 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenoxide
Alienware uses aftermarket components. Dell uses their own. Want reasons?

1. Dell's motherboards are built by themselves. They are built by monkeys. Slow bus speeds, slow transfer speeds, limited upgradeability due to most addons built onto the mobo. Earlier models had the graphics chipset INTEGRATED onto the motherboard. Ever seen a 5800 FX chipset built onto a mobo? Not a pretty sight.

2. Dell's graphics cards are rubbish. The reason? Dell uses the graphics card chipset and builds their own card. Again, slow speeds. Alienware uses cards from reputable sources (Asus, Gainward, and cards built by the chipset manufacturers themselves such as ATi and nVidia). Sometimes Dell integrates the graphics with the chipset. See reasons above.

3. Memory. Dell uses cheap memory sticks bought in from cheap taiwanese/chinese companies. Alienware uses Corsair (A VERY reputable RAM manufacturer) RAM. Low latency RAM = High performance.

4. Customer service. No matter what you say about Alienware's customer service, Dell's is much worse. Having owned two Dell computers the only good customer service I had is when they agreed to take them back and offer me refunds.

5. Oh yeah, they just plain suck.

/me crawls back into his cave.

k, its wrath time.

1. wrong, Dell uses modified intel boards, the only difference is that the clock speeds are locked so you cant overclock.

2. dell uses the cards made by ATi or Nvidia, not from BFG or saphire, what have you. they dont have their own brand of cards. and you cannot tell me that ATi makes bad cards, and even though nVidia doesnt release their cards (they have others make them) they are still equal in performance with other ones on the market.

3. the first half is true but no, low latency doesnt equal high perfromance. AW uses corsair value select which is not low latency, it is 2.5-3-3-6, not bad, but certainly not low latency.

4. dells warrenty plan is better and covers more than alienwares does. accidental coverage is great, especialy for laptops. but their customer service is supposedly worse.

5. thats not a reason, sorry.

k so number 3 was half true and so was number 4, that equals 1 valid point. you still need 4 more, try again.
post #44 of 50
I've got another good reason. There is nothing like turning on an AW for the first time and getting a blessedly unloaded computer. No free trials, no uselss software, no hours spent uninstalling all the crap that other companies put on there, and no spyware. Just a computer as God intended it. That's worth a lot.

So is having people walk by my office and glance in, keep going, then stop, back up, point to my computer and say "What the hell is THAT?"
post #45 of 50
Thread Starter 
I got her a 8400 Series Dell. I am not completely happy about it, but it was guaranteed to be here by Dec. 25, it came with a free 17" LCD, and I assumed it would be more than she would need. I just hope it holds up for at least 5 years. I really dislike Dells, but I figured for just a little over one grand, it was a pretty damn good deal.

I'll post the specs later if anyone cares.
post #46 of 50
Let me know how it goes tofu turkey boy.
post #47 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by slapthemonkey55
I've got another good reason. There is nothing like turning on an AW for the first time and getting a blessedly unloaded computer. No free trials, no uselss software, no hours spent uninstalling all the crap that other companies put on there, and no spyware. Just a computer as God intended it. That's worth a lot.

So is having people walk by my office and glance in, keep going, then stop, back up, point to my computer and say "What the hell is THAT?"
ok thats one good point, but not a big one. ad-aware/spybot, would get rid of all of that, plus the add/remove programs feature in the control panel. so no, not hours, more like 45 mins tops.

i'll consider that half a valid point. that equals 1.5 valid points. still need 3.5 more.

PS. not saying dell is the better company, i'm just saying that they arent as bad as you may think, thats why I highly doubt that you people can think of 5 really good reasons why they "suck" so much.

EDIT: i consider that a good choice, the 8400 is a decent machine that is more than enough for surfing the web and e-mail.
post #48 of 50
Wow, I feel special. I made a good point. I thought this year was going to end without that happening at least once. I'm more excited than Darth's midgets at the peak of filming.
post #49 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astu222
k, its wrath time.

1. wrong, Dell uses modified intel boards, the only difference is that the clock speeds are locked so you cant overclock.

2. dell uses the cards made by ATi or Nvidia, not from BFG or saphire, what have you. they dont have their own brand of cards. and you cannot tell me that ATi makes bad cards, and even though nVidia doesnt release their cards (they have others make them) they are still equal in performance with other ones on the market.

3. the first half is true but no, low latency doesnt equal high perfromance. AW uses corsair value select which is not low latency, it is 2.5-3-3-6, not bad, but certainly not low latency.

4. dells warrenty plan is better and covers more than alienwares does. accidental coverage is great, especialy for laptops. but their customer service is supposedly worse.

5. thats not a reason, sorry.

k so number 3 was half true and so was number 4, that equals 1 valid point. you still need 4 more, try again.
Sorry? Let's have another look.

1. Perhaps they use modified Intel boards, but there's a reason that hardly any other companies use them. Other brands are far better, far more featured, and far faster.

2. You completely contradicted yourself here. You say they use nVidia and ATi boards...then you go on to say they do not make boards, they get other companies to make them. And where did I say ATi makes bad cards? For the same reasons as #1, boards by other companies are better as they are faster, more full featured.

3. Corsair value select or not, it's certainly better RAM than the RAM than Dell uses. Corsair's manufacturing process is reknown, and just cause it has the word "Value" branded on it does not make it crap.

4. What use is a warranty plan if they wont live up to it? You need a good customer service system in order to cover warranties.

5. It is a reason, for the reasons stated above.
post #50 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenoxide
Sorry? Let's have another look.

1. Perhaps they use modified Intel boards, but there's a reason that hardly any other companies use them. Other brands are far better, far more featured, and far faster.

2. You completely contradicted yourself here. You say they use nVidia and ATi boards...then you go on to say they do not make boards, they get other companies to make them. And where did I say ATi makes bad cards? For the same reasons as #1, boards by other companies are better as they are faster, more full featured.

3. Corsair value select or not, it's certainly better RAM than the RAM than Dell uses. Corsair's manufacturing process is reknown, and just cause it has the word "Value" branded on it does not make it crap.

4. What use is a warranty plan if they wont live up to it? You need a good customer service system in order to cover warranties.

5. It is a reason, for the reasons stated above.
1. the intel boards arent used by other companies because intel wouldnt supply a different company unless that company ONLY uses their processors. dell only has intel boards because they only use intel. intel wouldnt give boards to a company that also offers AMD.

2. they do use ATI and nVidia boards, not ones made by BFG or powercooler or any of those brand names that ATI and nVidia sell out to. and GFX cards are not faster or better featured when made by other companies, not in this case.

3. never said it was crap, just saying its not high performance, or low latency.

4. dell doesnt live up to their warrenty plan? the guy on the phone may be a jerk but they HAVE to live up to the warrenty. if they didnt then why would they be such a big company?

5. no.

so that proved nothing. 1.5 valid points, still need 3.5. anyone else?
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