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Dude, you're getting f****d by Dell!

post #1 of 12
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My families long term good relationship has come to an end.

Two years ago we purchased an Inspiron 4000 for me to take off to college with me. Over the course of those two years only a few problems with it have arisen and were promptly fixed, until now....

Lately, the LCD has been really going bad. Whether its actually the LCD, or the connections, I do not know for certain. On July 4th (second call to Dell about this problem, problem disappeared or at least occurred less frequently after my first call in March, but picked up again in July). Spent 3 hours on the phone with tech support to no avail. They finally said they would be replacing my LCD when we were disconnected. They never tried to contact me, so I decided to enjoy the rest of my day.

On the 5th I contacted Tech support, hour and a half later, we had proceeded through the same steps and Tech support said a technician would be sent out to repair my laptop as per my warranty. Later in the day I received a phone saying my laptop would actually have to be returned to depot to be repaired and that a package to place my laptop in would be arriving via Airborne Express.

Nearly 3 weeks later....

No box, no call except a survey of my experience with tech support. I called tech support on 22nd. After spending 45 minutes on the phone with the same tech, who I repeated asked to transfer me to his supervisor, and said he was going to but simply came back on the phone talking to me after placing me on hold for five minutes I flipped out. I told him I didn't want to waste anymore of my time bsing with and I wanted to be transfered to his supervisor immediately. He told me to calm down, I hung up.

On 24th I got the day off work so I had a friend give me the e-mail address to a someone higher up the food-chain at Dell that had helped with his problem. E-mailed him, within five minutes had a response, and he asked for the phone number that would be best to contact me at. Gave him my cell, and after 15 minutes I received a phone call from Ryan M. Sullivan from Dell. Five minutes on the phone, and the problem was addressed, my laptop would be picked up on Monday the following week (28th) and everything was fine and dandy. Though he asked why the tag "Customer Uses Abusive Language" was added to my account and I explained it, he agreed I was justified and said he would remove it.

On the 28th my laptop was picked up. Included in the box was the faulty floppy drive (hot swappable drive bay one) that was also to be replaced (they knew about) and I included a note to remind them with the laptop.

Get home on Thrusday (31) and find a note saying they already tried to return my laptop to me. I'm elated and make sure someone can be there to receive my laptop on the 1st.

Got home on the 1st to retrieve my tower and my freshly returned laptop. Opened the box to see my Inspiron in the box with a note from technical support. They stated they found no problem with the LCD with their "hard driver" and that I needed to contact them again about downloading the correct drivers (something already done 3 times on the phone with technical support). I tried the drivers again twice that day to no avail.

I was just a little annoyed, until I discovered that they had also neglected to replace the floppy drive. This has just sent me over the top.

Sent another e-mail to Mr. Sullivan asking him what they would do to solve my problems.

Got to love Dell....
post #2 of 12
I have an Inspiron 4000 in my collection at home. I have next day service on it. When they were giving me cr*p about not replacing the faulty keyboard and mouse (I had already waited 3 weeks), I told them to shove it and provide me a brand new laptop if they couldn't fix it. So basically I made them promise me a new laptop if they didn't get it fixed on the day they said it would. Amazingly, everything was taken care of without problems.

Look, you must play hardball with these Dell technicians. Ever since Dell moved most of their tech support operation to India, the quality has gone down a lot. I'm sure the people on the phone want to help, but I think Dell has trained them to resist as much as possible.
post #3 of 12
i had some trouble with apple - but my wife wrote a nice long letter explaining how theyed screw us over in nice mature terms and addressed it to every computer journalist we could find an email address for. Before we sent it, we sent a copy to the superviser of the apple manager we'd been having trouble with, a long with a list who we were going to send it to.

Five mins after we hit send, we got a call saying they'ed fix it for free (with some bs reason so it didn;t look like we'd blackmailed them.

But that tactic works

(although so does yelling. I yelled at a hospital supervisor last week because my ferret's biospy results were three days late and they magically appeared!)

Joe
post #4 of 12
I yelled at a hospital supervisor last week because my ferret's biospy results were three days late

That is a secntence, i could honestly say, i thought i would never hear.
post #5 of 12
I've had very similar experiences.

Usually, before I call up tech support, I like to do as many diagnostic tests as I can. I know my way around a computer, sometimes more than the tech people on the other end of the phone, and even if they know more, I'm physically at the computer, which gives me a huge advantage.

So I call them up and say "my _____ is broken. I know this because I did X, Y, and Z". So the guy says he still has to go through diagnostics. He asks me to do X. I tell him I already did X, and what happened. He repeats himself (I absolutely HATE that. Its as if you don't exist - what you're saying doesn't matter. "Sir, please do X for me" "I already did that." "Sir, please do X for me" "I said I already did that" "Sir, I need for you to do X for me").

So I say hold on, put the phone down, do something on my other computer to pass a few minutes time, and then tell the guy what happened when I did X. Same story with Y. He then asks me to do X again. Thankfully, when I told him I did that twice, he didn't insist that I do it a third time. He asks me to do Z again. Then X. Then comes to the same conclusion I did.

Incompetancy at its finest.

They asked me to take one of those surveys after another call of mine (too complicated to explain what went wrong then. Suffice it to say it was terrible). I told them how much they suck. I got a followup call from someone about as timid as a man about to be executed. He told me he would give me a phone number to call for tech support. I told him I'm very capable of going online and finding the tech support number myself. He said something like "no, I'm going to give you a number" (again, ignoring what I said), and I repeated that I can find phone numbers myself.

After going back and forth (like I said, he was pretty timid) he slowly told me more and more information about this magical new number. Apparently, its a number that connects to smarter laptop tech support people. So I seemed happy with Dell, for once in my life. However, he called me on my cell phone while I was out, and I told him I didn't have a pen, so he said no problem, he'd e-mail it to me, and asked for my e-mail address.

I gave it to him (something I rarely do - I'm paranoid about spam). Nothing. No number. Nothing.

Not to mention their standard response for any software problem is "sorry, you have a virus, you have to format and reinstall everything". The fact that Norton Antivirus disagrees on the fact that I have a virus doesn't seem to impact them (again, the ignore effect. "Sorry sir, you have a virus" "Norton Antivirus says I don't have a virus" "Sorry sir, you have a virus").

You know, now that I'm writing this, I'm thinking... maybe I should call them up, and say "My ____ is broken. I know this because I did X, Y, and Z", and if they say anything except "ok, we'll send you another ____", I'll just say "Sorry sir, my ____ is broken. I know this because I did X, Y, and Z", and just keep repeating myself over and over again. When in Rome...
post #6 of 12
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Originally posted by Loki047
I yelled at a hospital supervisor last week because my ferret's biospy results were three days late

That is a secntence, i could honestly say, i thought i would never hear.
Wow, I was just about to say that. Great minds...
post #7 of 12
I bought a Dell workstation for a project I was working on, for a client. After installing the machine at the client's site (a factory that gets over 120F in the summer). the machine started blue screening with a temperature shutdown. It was only 70 degF in the building. I called Dell and explained the problem. I then told them exactly what tests I performed and everything I checked (using there diagnostic CD) and I then told them the machine is defective and they need to send a techician over immediately with a new motherboard. The tech on the phone said "fine but I want to you to...." I then spent the next 45 minutes performing the exact same tests that I told her I had alredy done. I repeatdly told her "I've already checked xxx that's not the problem." Finally, after 45 minutes she said "Let me check one more thing." She asked me for the serial number, for the 3rd time. "Oh, yes there's a defect with this motherboard you'll have to mail it back to us and we'll send a replacement." I replied, "I told you that 45 minutes ago, and you made me run through these stupid tests again. My client needs this machine up by tomorrow morning. You will ship me at no cost a new motherboard and it will be here by 10am tomorow morning."

The new motherboard arrived the next morning by 10am 5 minutes later the machine was back up and the client went back into production. Luckily, we still had the old system online during the startup.

In conclusion, Dell Tech support is just some computer jockey sitting there reading a screen. You need to know what exactly the problem is before you call them or you won't get the results you want. It helps to stay calms and not get upset that the 16yr old on the other end can't understand that your problem. Unfortunately, home users get shafted the most. We have a business account with Dell and if they can't fix it over the phone a Dell techinician is there the next day replacing the problem part.
post #8 of 12
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Originally posted by infiltrateib
Wow, I was just about to say that. Great minds...
he'd been sick for weeks - hardly eating and drinking, and our local vet wasn't getting anywhere, so we took him to the local vet hospital (the MSPCA one in Boston). The first visit they checked him out and put him critical care because he was badly dehydrated. Then he picked up, because he was on IV fluids, but when we got him home a few days later, he went back downhill, so we took him in after two days at home and they put him back on fluids for a few days. Then on the friday, they decided he needed an exploratory surgery of his abdomen - they needed to decide between Irittable Bowel, Some sort of Obstruction and cancer. They told us 2:30 for the 1hr surgery. We sat in the waiting room. At 4:30, we were panicing because we hadn't heard anything, so we called surgery and apparently he was just going in then. So, relieved at first, we waited for another two and half hours - getting more and more worried as time went by.

Then a doctor came out and topld us he was through the surgery with minimal complications - They'd seen some inflammation that could be IBD or Cancer, and had taken biopsies and sent them down to pathology. We were told that we should get the biopsies back saturday or monday.
(they were supposed to be done friday aftenoon, but the delayed surgery f****ed that.)
Apparently, they left us out there worried for atleast 1/2 hour after he was out without telling us squat.
But at this point, i didn;t yell at anyone - i was so glad he hadn't died on the table.

Saturday, we went in to both visiting hours - no results, but his IV tube needed fixing.

SUnday no results

Monday morning - no results. Doctors said they'd call with results that evening.
Monday evening No results. and no call untill we called to findout late that night

Tuesday morning (the next "due day" for results) - we go in. No results. Doctors tell us that evening for sure.

Tuesday evening. Still no results, and his IV line had broken open when the nurses got it caught in the cage below his. We had to call out to get some one to come fix it again.

After visiting hours, we cornered the hospital administrator and took turns yelling at him about his incompetent staff untill he went down to path and found out that the report had been done, just noone had bothered to send it up to thew doctors.

Yelling sometimes helps, and it feels good when nothing else has worked.

Joe
post #9 of 12
Well i hope your ferret faired well, hows he doing? And whats wrong?
post #10 of 12
oh yeah - should have finished the story...

he seems to have IBD, which is chronic rather than terminal. Hes eating again, and hes on a combination of corticosteriods for inflamation and a hypoalergenic diet.

He seems to be doing ok, he got the stitches out yesterday and is happilly running around when we give him the chance, at almost his old strength.

Joe



Joe
post #11 of 12

similar story

When my gerbil got liposuction on his tummy (his self confidence was horrible before the operation) he was not put under anesthesia properly and suffered severe pain throughout the operation. I yelled and screamed at the bastards for hurting him, cheeks is his name, and they gave him a lifetime supply of food and a gold plated exercise wheel. It pays to complain.
post #12 of 12

update

Cheeks is looking and feeling better than ever nowadays. The lady gerbils can't resist him. I'm not sure if its the lipo or the gold plated wheel that gets 'em.
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