Any more updates on this one? I'm trying to get the camera to work in Windows Messenger and all I get is the grey screen. However, when I downscale Messenger another Windows task has the screen up in the upper left corner of the screen with no border or picture-in-picture (when I request that option). It isn't moveable, it just stays there with no options. I have the program going at my other computer with the picture in the proper location/application. I also had to use the Bison without the vfw to get it to even work while setting up with the audio/video wizard. I'm also having microphone issues but haven't attempted to fix that yet.