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post #61 of 78
12/15/04 at 3:32pm
I dont think that's what Unleaded meant at all, just that by balancing all things about the internals and archietcture, the s5n comes out on top even with a .3 pound loss in weight with the standard, yes standard right now, 9 cell battery.

That canadian site should have a white S5n somewhere hiding.

That thread is hillarious! I love MarquisDarquis' posts
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post #62 of 78
12/15/04 at 3:39pm
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Thanks, since I live in Europe, it's risky to order in the US. Besides, I probably can't buy overseas. I think I'm rather stuck with the black version of the S5N. I think I'll go for the S5N. If someone knows a site that is accessible for international customers, please let me know.
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post #63 of 78
12/15/04 at 3:44pm
The thing to consider, as many of the other responses said, is the extremly high build quality of the IBM- Nasa uses Thinkpads in the space shuttle for one main reason, They don't break
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post #64 of 78
12/15/04 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisCrisis
The thing to consider, as many of the other responses said, is the extremly high build quality of the IBM- Nasa uses Thinkpads in the space shuttle for one main reason, They don't break
This might be a moot point but,

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Ar...ges=PR&seq=201

Or perhaps it's just because I love Asus? You decide.

Edit: Asus with the microsoft monopoly on laptops? Bad or no? You decide. I mean they already have such a huge market with motherboards...
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post #65 of 78
12/15/04 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisCrisis
The thing to consider, as many of the other responses said, is the extremly high build quality of the IBM- Nasa uses Thinkpads in the space shuttle for one main reason, They don't break
This is the major reason I was considering the IBM X40.
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post #66 of 78
12/15/04 at 4:35pm
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Edit: Asus with the microsoft monopoly on laptops? Bad or no? You decide. I mean they already have such a huge market with motherboards...
Well... if theyre build quality sucked, and thier bios updates were sheer crap... maybe the MS analogy would hold. I find the only picky point about Asus is thier marketing presentation and consistency of interface across driver install packages. Would be nice to see a multi-lingual QA engineer all over that.

Asus' products are up and coming rapidly due to thier excellent design and quality. Good for them- quality equipment deserves better press than all this HP , Compaq and Dell garbage. Yeah, I said it. I get called on to repair those 3 vendors equipment all the time. I have been reselling Asus for a year, I finally got my first needed repair in, and its very minor.

Also, word on the street, or a little birdy told me or whatever.. (remember, I resell Asus)... that the next generation of IBM thinkpads may be looking a little familiar to Asus fans. 'nuff said.

Eric
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post #67 of 78
12/15/04 at 4:43pm
What does Asus have to do with Lenovo, EricT?
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post #68 of 78
12/15/04 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by EricT
Well... if theyre build quality sucked, and thier bios updates were sheer crap... maybe the MS analogy would hold. I find the only picky point about Asus is thier marketing presentation and consistency of interface across driver install packages. Would be nice to see a multi-lingual QA engineer all over that.

Asus' products are up and coming rapidly due to thier excellent design and quality. Good for them- quality equipment deserves better press than all this HP , Compaq and Dell garbage. Yeah, I said it. I get called on to repair those 3 vendors equipment all the time. I have been reselling Asus for a year, I finally got my first needed repair in, and its very minor.

Also, word on the street, or a little birdy told me or whatever.. (remember, I resell Asus)... that the next generation of IBM thinkpads may be looking a little familiar to Asus fans. 'nuff said.


Eric

Hehe. I say we start an Asus Religion. I call the Pope!

I agree with their lack of quality in their marketing. Anyone here remember the poster by the name of "AsusCustRep" and that whole ordeal with him posting under a different name?

I hope Asus grows to be very prosperous for a very long time, I am waiting for their Centrino + PCI Express solution.

Wait a minute, your a reseller...any nice birdy's tell you anything about Centrino + PCI Express? If not what about AMD64 + PCI express? I'll be looking for a Desktop Replacement when I go back to Canada next october.


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Originally Posted by Unleaded
What does Asus have to do with Lenovo, EricT?
Funny, I was just thinking about that. The whole ordeal with Lenovo buying out IBM's laptop line. Good question, any word with that EricT?
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post #69 of 78
12/15/04 at 4:53pm
JFVergerveeraa whatever

If I hear something specific, I will let you know. Right now the m6n and w1s are sticking for a least a few more months, nothing really new happening anytime soon.

Lenovo- Thats who they turned over thier PC stuff too... but not necessarliy the laptops. Besides, as in the article posted above (not by me) what these companies do is either pay for new designs, as apple with thier line did with asus, or just rebrand current designs. Laptops all come out of taiwan though, everyones get made by someone else. There are a few others, but asus is the only company that I know of off the top of my head that sells thier own stuff.

I dont mean to be an asus fanboy, but when you see all the crappy laptops all day long like I do in repair, its nice to see a brand that just doesnt come back for repair hardly ever. I am a fan of good engineering is all.

JFvergera, quit calling the pope. He's on line 2 with me. Doh!

Eric
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post #70 of 78
12/15/04 at 5:12pm
To the original poster:

de-laptopper.nl in netherlands.
notebook-shop.de in germany.
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post #71 of 78
12/15/04 at 5:21pm
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To the original poster:

de-laptopper.nl in netherlands.
notebook-shop.de in germany.
Both sites don't have the Pearl White version, which I prefer. That's why I'm thinking of buying it overseas.
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post #72 of 78
12/15/04 at 5:31pm
EricT, IBM turned over their Entire PC Division to Lenova which includes desktops and laptops...to be precise their entire "Think" line.
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post #73 of 78
12/15/04 at 6:14pm
Right- I am curious if that trumps the Asus laptop contract rumors. Does lenova build lappies? I really have no idea.

Could be newer news than I know, for all I know.

Eric
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post #74 of 78
12/15/04 at 6:18pm
I'm not sure what precisely they build...they are a Chinese company that does not offer its computer products to the West...as far as I know. Not an ODM name I've ever heard of so they aren't building for any brand...at least I don't think they are.
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post #75 of 78
12/15/04 at 6:22pm
Excerpt from December 8th press release by Lenovo:

"Lenovo will have combined annual PC revenue of approximately US$12 billion and volume of 11.9 million units, based on 2003 business results -- a fourfold increase in Lenovo's current PC business. Lenovo's new PC business will benefit from a powerful worldwide distribution and sales network covering 160 countries, global brand recognition through the combination of IBM's highly regarded "Think" brand notebook franchise and Lenovo's leading brand recognition in China, enhanced service and support for consumers and enterprise clients, and consumer strength and market leadership in China, the world's fastest growing IT market. After the transaction is completed, Lenovo will boast leading notebook enterprise offerings, leading R&D and expertise in product differentiation, ensuring greater innovation and enhanced product selection for customers.
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post #76 of 78
12/15/04 at 6:29pm
But are they building those lappies themselves, or rebranding the asus'?

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post #77 of 78
12/15/04 at 6:47pm
In China, IBM manufactures ThinkPad notebooks with "Great Wall Technology", a Lenovo rival. With the sale, Lenovo will get the ThinkPad factory in Schenzhen, so they will be the manufacturer at that point. As far as I can tell, there is no Asus link to any of this.

IBM will remain heavily involved, probably even past year 5, with marketing, support, etc, as this is their main moneymaker (as opposed to hardware).

Lenovo used to be "Legend", but changed the name due to copyright problems in the U.S. market. It includes it's own brand "QDI" laptops sold in Europe, but can't break into Dell's market share.

Edit: Lenovo signed a deal with AMD and now produces home PCs using XP and AMD64 processors. Looks like Lenovo is going all out for the world market now.
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post #78 of 78
12/15/04 at 7:01pm
As I understand it from my neighbor who works for IBM, during the next 2 years the laptops will still be sold as IBM. In the subsequent 2 years they will be sold as IBM/Lenovo....what exactly the involvement is after that I'm not clear on.
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