8790 Artifacting - Page 17

19" beast is definitely a drooler. 9750's a looker, too. But yeah, buying Sager again's a tough call after the trouble that's been had.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do here. My sister is even asking me for an affordable notebook that can game. I don't know what to tell her. Only my tech experience and a willingness to learn and read forums helped me with Sager, so I don't know what to recommend to a computer newb.

Do I subject her to Dell's medocre product line and crappy tech support or Sager's...you know I don't know what's wrong with Sager and it doesn't have any tech support except do it yourself.

They must be busy watching porn flicks on the new 19" SLI...

My 8790 is getting its guts replaced MOBO etc and extended warranty is about to run out so I am thinking of attempting to sell on ebay and cut losses. I am going to have to mention that this system should be downclocked and cleaned fanaticly do you think it is worth selling the system or attempting to use its own parts for a desktop? I cannot afford to replace the MOBO when it shits out on its own again so need to figure out something to do with it.

Count me in the 8790 blues club!

I started having problems last summer with artifacting. I sent the laptop in through Phillips for a "10 day turnaround". I got the laptop back almost four months later. (Evidently Phillips wasn't on the best of terms with the repair facility at that point.) They had replaced the logic board.

When I got it back, it wouldn't boot up! There was a bad harddrive. I swapped the harddrives and it booted up and looked better than it did when it left. I called Phillips again and they told me to send it in again for a new harddrive. I told them it wasn't worth losing it completely so I bought a new drive out of my own pocket.

We lost the LCD screen in February '06 sometime and had to use an external monitor. Eventually the artifacting got so bad on the external that we couldn't use that either. We sent it in and it came back "repaired". They said they replaced the harddrive that was bad from last year, cleaned the computer and the left mouse button and that fixed it. (?!!?!?!?!?!?)

Well it's been back two weeks and I'm starting to see the artifacting again. I contacted Sager and they told me to flash the bios and I can't get it to boot off the CD. I decided to look for some help online and found this thread. Now I'm just considering EBay too.

I have a Dell Inspiron 8500 too that freezes up for no apparent reason when you're not using an external mouse. Check out this frustrated post:

Could you imagine..............................

My new truck has been stalling a couple of times each day. This is my third replacement. It was delivered with the old Goodrich tires! I contacted technical support (some guy in Cuba) and he suggested I replace the windshield wipers one more time. I did that and everything seemed fine for a couple of days then the darn thing started stalling again. I've also reinstalled the seat covers twice now but to no avail. I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's a conflict between the CD player and the airbags. I'm going to replace both of them this weekend. I will keep you posted. P.S. Has anybody tried switching the battery cables?

Is there any other product that customers are willing to spend hours, days, or even weeks of their own time just trying to make things work as advertised? The freezing problem has been around for ever and Dell just ignores it. How do these big companies get away with it? Yes, yes, I know the PC is a very complicated device running all sorts of 3rd party software, but 25 years and 25 billionaires later we should expect/demand more..................

Rotsa Ruck Charie

So after about a month and a half and maybe and most 2 e-mail updates about a month apart I finally got my laptop back, I was hoping it had gotten lost somewhere and they would have to refund me for it. So packing slip says Graphics Memory replaced, parts 15 dollars labor 80, so all you people out of warranty getting charged 500 bucks might want to think twice about what is occuring, perhaps they did just replace the memory on my card and not the card itself as wel will soon find out. So it boots fine and finally my crazy 85 hz refresh rate bug is gone (do not even ask) so I run atitool at default clock and of course cannot make it even 5 seconds without artifacting. The bios clocking is 450/220 which we all know is way to high for the sager but I dropped it down to 272/120 to be safe and since all I am doing is 2d. The graphics card is still obviously messed up but it is quite convienient that I did not get the laptop back not but a few weeks before my warranty will expire, I am asking the warranty company about my options so will find out more later.

Got my 8790 RMAed for the second time last week. First time was I believe november 2004, artifacting as usual. Motherboard got replaced and it worked fine for another year I guess. Then again it started artifacting two months ago. I bought a SSF so I don't really care about that piece of crap anymore but I still RMAed it through philips magnavox and I was hoping that they'd run out of replaceable parts and I could get a refund, but no. They found a new motherboard and replaced everything that wasn't really working. It seems to be as good as new now, except for I don't need it. Does anybody want to buy it off me for 1k?

Well ive been dealing with the artifacting for months now.....i installed omega drivers and boost core speed and lower memory speed...helps for a bit. but too much graphical changes, like changing zones in a game starts the artifacting.

I came here today in hopes perhaps a solution was found but by gazing over the last 2 pages looks like there is no hope.

Whats funny is at the time i purchased this laptop my wife purchased an alienware...I went for the slightly better videocard, bigger screen and bigger keyboard that sager offered.

Difference is..Her alienware is still runningly perfectly.

Sager is a korean run company, I guess history proves correct.

Exude ignorance.

Sager is a USA Company - Not Korean. It's principals may be of Chineese origin; however, that make no difference on the machine. The machine is a CLEVO D870P which is made in China - again not Korea. Depending on which model of Alienware your wife has, it may also me made by CLEVO.

You have some sort of issue with Koreans? If so, solve it elseware - not here -- please....

First of all ill state I have no issues with koreans. About 95% of the business I own are korean distributers and manufacturers.

My wife is half korean, her mom full korean etc.

Koreans are cheap, they cut corners to cut costs. Its not racist, its a fact.

Sager may be in "USA" but it's owners are korean and employee's mostly korean.

I also suppose you dont know your history. Koreans built a bridge in their country, but did it the cheap way, used cheaper materials, cheaper design to save money, the bridge collapsed. They have also done this with several of their major buildings. Thats where the history comment comes from.

And btw...I spent over 3k on my 8790 from SAGER and to have a permanent problem that effects my enjoyment of the product, this gives me the right to question their fortitude as a laptop design company.

While the actual notebook may be made by those in your reply...Sager designs them etc. Gives the go on what parts and where to use them cause they pay the bill.

You may be some big forum troll for this forum but you should consider the facts in a more unbiased and open-minded way before going off on some rant.

I stand by my original observation that you don't know what you are talking about. Sager is not the designer either; however, may contribute to a general "wish list" along with a variety of other OEMs for the options that they can offer and install. The engineering is all CLEVO's - not Sager's.

Thanks for filling us in on your "issues with Koreans". Nice stereotype - it's a good thing that there are other examples that totally disprove your generalizations. Next we'll belive that type-m are lazy, type-b are fat, type-r are thieves, etc... etc... adnausium. WHich type are you - no answer needed....

korea != taiwan

Whatever happened to all those people with artifacts? Did you guys give up?

Sager replaced my motherboard. But shortly after I bought a Dell XPS Gen2 which didn't cause any problems until this day.
-Mat

So..... Are you having problems with the Dell or the Sager. And, what does one have to do with the other?

I am waiting for an opportunity to have my motherboard replaced. I can go through Repairmaster and have the costs covered but risk not having it for longer than I can do without, or drive it down to Sager myself, in which case Repairmaster will cover up to $350 and I'll have to pay about $100, but at least I know I can get it back within a week.

Underclocked to 297/163, I play GW Factions regularly, but cannot play any FPS without suffering lag. One tick above the current setting introduces artifacts when I drag an Explorer window. For the most part the beast is still chugging along and feels pretty solid.

My 8790 started atifacting about 7 or 8 months ago after about a year and a half of faithful service. Being poor and given the expired warranty I couldn't do much about it. Multiple reformats, cleanings, and reapplications of thermal compound on the gpu and cpu later the artifacting was spreading to 2d environments and gradually getting worse.

Now I'm stuck in command line, but at least it's prettier...

It's barely possible that getting the latest BIOS and Video BIOS updates will help. When I had 3D artifacting problems, Sager ended up just updating my BIOS with tweaked (lower) clock settings. The problems never recurred.

I'm still here brothers About to RMA my 8790 for the 3rd time. This time the screen doesn't turn on even though the computer starts running. I love Sager

Sigh. I'm scared now. Micromedics just sent my laptop to Sager for repairs. I'm afraid of how it's going to work when I get it back. Why 3 RMAs? Did they mess up every time? My semester starts in one month and my extended warranty expires about that time as well so I really hope I get it back in time and working decently. My biggest fear is getting it back with more damage than I had sent it in with.

Hypothetical question: If I get my laptop back with the same problem but my warranty expires, would Warrantech still cover sending it back to get repaired?