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Asus Z81k??

post #1 of 37
1/1/05 at 5:02pm
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys, especially Youhou for pointing out the ASUS z81k through rjtech.com. It has everything I was looking for ( and even a bit more ) and was close enough to my price range that I think I'm hooked...

Now.. Can anyone provide me with a review on one of these?

The setup I'm looking at is...

AMD Mobile Athlon 64 Processor 3400+
Operation System Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional (will be self installed)
Chipset nVidia Crush K8M
Main Memory DDR 333 SDRAM , 2x SO-DIMM socket 1024 MB
Display 15.4" WSXGA+ 1680x1200
Video Graphics & Memory ATI Mobility™ Radeon™ 9700, 128 VRAM
Hard Drive 60GB 7200rpm

etc, etc on the small stuff.....

Any known problems or things to look out for? And has anyone else dealt with rjtech.com? Any problems with them at all? If I get a laptop cooler, should I worry about having heat issues with a 7200rpm hdd? Thanks in advance for any information...
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post #2 of 37
1/1/05 at 8:35pm
Hey nyte ye.. i am looking at this laptop as well so i dont know wat the ppl are gona say.. Its either this or the Uniwill laptop.. And since its asus i heard asus has good built quality and i dunno why i saw earlier someone say it has a 64 MB VRaM did u look everywhere and made sure this information is indeed legit.
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post #3 of 37
1/1/05 at 8:39pm
btw sry for double post but check out http://www.geared2play.com/products/.../z80k/z81k.htm
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post #4 of 37
1/2/05 at 12:16pm
Thread Starter 
Wow... even cheaper there. And I've at least heard of geared2play.com before, so I think I'd probably be a little more comfortable ordering from them too. Only thing I don't understand is the difference between...

AMD Athlon-64 Mobile 3400+ 1MB cache Clawhammer 62W @245.00
and
AMD Athlon-64 Mobile 3400+ 1MB cache Clawhammer DTR @265.00

What's the difference?
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post #5 of 37
1/2/05 at 12:21pm
The difference is the power consumption and thus battery life, where the Athlon 64 DTR 3400+ eats up 81.5W TDP and the Mobile Athlon 64 3400+ eats up 62W TDP. The Athlon 64 DTR is being phased out and replaced by the Mobile Athlon 64 instead.
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post #6 of 37
1/2/05 at 12:30pm
Thread Starter 
Ok, now I'm confused... If the 62W is the better chip than the DTR, why is it less expensive? Is the DTR in some way more powerful? Or does it create less heat or something? Battery life will not be an issue with this laptop, as it will spend almost all of it's time plugged in, so I just want the better chip. Also, geared2play lists a 802.11b as the integrated wireless card. I haen't actually talked to anyone there yet, but if I can't get them to install a 802.11g card, is it possible to upgrade this once I get it? Or is it soldered to the mobo like so many other components of a laptop? Thanks again....
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post #7 of 37
1/2/05 at 1:18pm
As I said the DTR is being phased out and that's why they're trying to price it out of the market. Performance wise they're identical with the same xxxx+ rating, and the Mobile produces less heat than the DTR.

AMD Mobile Athlon 64:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._10249,00.html

AMD Athlon 64 DTR:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...E10269,00.html
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post #8 of 37
1/2/05 at 3:19pm
OK, so maybe i'm missing something but can someone answer this for me. Both the Asus A2000k(a80k) and the A4000k(a81k) are listed on Asus's website as having only 64mb Vram via the Radeon 9700 card. When I see it for sale on the resellers' websites it is always listed as 128mb Vram. Can someone find out who is wrong or am I missing something? Thank you, Gary
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post #9 of 37
1/2/05 at 4:12pm
edit: that was wrong. z81k has 64mb VRAM 9700 card
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post #10 of 37
1/2/05 at 5:12pm
I just wanted to add the one from Geared2play also has 400 memory as opposed to 333, which I think I read is important with the 64.

I have been looking for a notebook as well and your other post is exactly what I was looking for as well (high res / amd 64 / radeon 9700 128).

Anyhow thanks for the question. It helped me out alot as well.
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post #11 of 37
1/2/05 at 5:46pm
as far as i know, it only supports 333mhz anyway. they can put 400 in there, but it won't be running that fast.
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post #12 of 37
1/2/05 at 10:52pm
I stand corrected. I didnt realize the Nvidia Crush K8m only supported 333.
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post #13 of 37
1/4/05 at 11:16am
This looks to be a very promising laptop. As of Sunday, Gear2Play had the Mobile Athlon64 3400+ 62w option, but now only lists the DTR options.

I am contacting them to find out why this option is not currently available on the Z81K.


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post #14 of 37
1/4/05 at 12:54pm
Is it worth it to get the 9700 though?...I know it has 128 of memory but still, it's already a couple of generations old...argh...
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post #15 of 37
1/4/05 at 1:54pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by plageclochard
Is it worth it to get the 9700 though?...I know it has 128 of memory but still, it's already a couple of generations old...argh...
If you want a laptop now and really can't wait, your only options are the 9700 128/256 or the GO 6800 256.

I still think for the money, this laptop is a very good buy. I'm just waiting for more reviews, to see what issues people have after extended use.


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post #16 of 37
1/4/05 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by Jack_Burton
This looks to be a very promising laptop. As of Sunday, Gear2Play had the Mobile Athlon64 3400+ 62w option, but now only lists the DTR options.

I am contacting them to find out why this option is not currently available on the Z81K.


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Here is the response I got from there sales dept:
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Pulled from inventory. No longer available. The dtr is more powefull and just drains a little more battery. Either way you are looking at about 2 hours of battery life tops. Not much to work with but thats typical for dtr's
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Strange, I thought the DTRs where being replaced.


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post #17 of 37
1/4/05 at 5:15pm
ack, this is getting more frustrating...the Z81K isn't on Asus' North American website -http://usa.asus.com/products/notebook/nbindex.htm

...so right now I can't get exact specs for it...I'm wondering if you could order it as a whitebook and just order a Mobile AMD64 3400+ on your own -http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...103-477&depa=1...I assume it's socket 754 but that's a pretty big assumption to be wrong about...and that's annoying about the DDR400, why put it in if it's not supported?
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post #18 of 37
1/4/05 at 6:28pm
The Z81k Isn't on the Asus North America site. I haven't gotten answer from them whether or not this is a laptop available only to other countries and some vendors local around here in US import them to sell or it is a new laptop they haven't update the website yet.

However, what is known about this laptop is that it replaces the Z80k which is the 15" version, while this one is the 15.4" version.

Any other spec is unknown as it is fairly new.
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post #19 of 37
1/4/05 at 7:37pm
I posted wrongly earlier - it is only the 64mb video card in the z81k. apologies.

Here's the specs:

Supported CPU Type: M-AMD Athlon64/AthlonXP(62W) up to 3700+
LCD Size & Res.: 15.4" WSXGA+(1680x1200)
M/B Chipset: nVidia Crush K8M
Max. Memory Support: DDR333-1024MB
VGA Card: ATI 9700 W/64MB VRAM
WLAN: WLAN 802.11b Included
LAN/Fax Modem: 10/100/1000MB, FAX modem
FDD/Port Bar: No (Ext. Opt) / No
Batt. Type /Run time: Li-Ion 8 Cell / 2 ~ 3hrs
USB/1394/IrDA/S-Video: 4 / 1 / 1 / 1
Card reader/PCMCIA: MMC, SD, MS / 1
Weight/Height: 7.7lbs / 1.65"
Warranty: 1Year (Upgradable up to 3 Yrs)
DVD Re-writeable: 8X DVD DUAL
With Wireless 802.11b, No Mini PCI Slot
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post #20 of 37
1/4/05 at 8:14pm
Hmm are you sure? I thought I saw somewhere the video card was 128MB on this particular model. At least that is what got me to look at it vs their M6BNe version
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