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AMD 64 vs. Intel Pentium M

post #1 of 19
1/5/05 at 2:10am
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Which CPU is best? As far as performance and battery lifes are concerned. Say when it is underloads.
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post #2 of 19
1/5/05 at 3:02am
battery lifewise - i would say pentium M. im not sure of the performance though.
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post #3 of 19
1/5/05 at 3:02am
As far as battery and performance together? Pentium M definitely.
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post #4 of 19
1/5/05 at 3:51am
solely performance, AMD 64 hands down. If you want a mix of both, get a P-M. I have a P-M right now and I love it!
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post #5 of 19
1/5/05 at 6:48am
I love P-M and I will choose no other chips for notebook



lozx
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post #6 of 19
1/5/05 at 7:44am
The AMD-64 is a superior chip in all aspects. It's a 64 bit processor compared to a 32 bit . It's faster and if you look at any of the gaming benchmarks it blows away the Pentium in any variety except for the $700 Extreme Edition (in which case the Amd 64 FX trounces it at about the same price.) With some of the more advanced notebook designs, the power advantage (ie longer battery life) is extremely lessened but the Pentium-M still retains a minor power advantage in powerful gaming style notebooks. The Penium-M is far superior in notebooks where there is no hope for gaming at all such as integrated graphics chip for Microsoft Word work and DVD watching.

The problem with the AMD chip is that there are fewer designs to choose from. When Dell came out with the 20% coupon code last month in addition to all the other stackable discounts, the 9200 was an incredible buy.

Sitting here today, though, I'd give a really hard took to both the Sager 4750 or the Hypersonic AX7.
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post #7 of 19
1/5/05 at 9:20am
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Originally Posted by Heinrich
The AMD-64 is a superior chip in all aspects. It's a 64 bit processor compared to a 32 bit . It's faster and if you look at any of the gaming benchmarks it blows away the Pentium in any variety except for the $700 Extreme Edition (in which case the Amd 64 FX trounces it at about the same price.) With some of the more advanced notebook designs, the power advantage (ie longer battery life) is extremely lessened but the Pentium-M still retains a minor power advantage in powerful gaming style notebooks. The Penium-M is far superior in notebooks where there is no hope for gaming at all such as integrated graphics chip for Microsoft Word work and DVD watching.
Got to disagree with you on your "opinion" of which processer is better. The AMD doesn't blow away the P-M at all when gaming. Check out this link> http://www.gamepc.com/labs/print_con...d=dothangaming there are other benchmarks that also show the simular information. I also have first hand experience with both processers

Second there is no better all around processer, either they have their strengths or weaknesses.

My OPINION
From my experience
P-M Dothan: Long battery life, very cool operation, quiet, great gaming, SloW Arithmetic performance, cost a bit more, great for mobility
AMD64: Okay battery life, hot, not very quiet(damn fans), great gaming, fast arithmetic performance, a bit cheaper, great for DTR

I Have a CL56(stats below) its an ounce over 6lb and its very mobile for me. I play counter strike source at 1400x1050 all settings at medium and i get very smooth play. Samething for HL2. When I’m not playing say at school i get 4hours of internet browsing, word processing and i don't mind carrying it.

If i wanted a DTR I'll go with AMD and if i wanted mobility I'll go P-M Dothan
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post #8 of 19
1/5/05 at 12:18pm
lostbob is correct.
P-M is even better with newer chipset, and looks to be a great desktop replacement as well (if it ever drops in price to compete):
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...=dfipm&page=10

I have always been an AMD freak (run 2 overclocked AXP-M desktops and another Barton system), and this was to be my first new gaming laptop purchase. eMachine 6805/Gateway 7405 with AMD 64 looked like the one. But after looking at benchmarks at madonion (3dmark), I kept seeing Dell at the top of the charts. A few hours of heavy research, and the 9200 is on it's way. Price/performnace can't be beat.
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post #9 of 19
1/5/05 at 1:13pm
I have a friend with the R3000Z with the AMD 64 3200+, it is a fast chip, but I do find the fan to be loud, and it is a brick. I will take the 9200 with a P4 M for the good speed/battery life, and lighter weight any day.
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post #10 of 19
1/5/05 at 2:24pm
its just a matter of opinion on this topic... Sure the AMD 64 is faster in a lot of aspects, but if you're considering that, why not just save a ton of money and get a desktop...

I personally got the P-M for the laptop because it ran cool and had a great battery life. Not only that, it performs well and will handle just about anything thrown at it. Why would I need more computing power (not to mention weight) when I could just use my desktop for that? Get a notebook for mobility, get a desktop for power...
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post #11 of 19
1/5/05 at 4:55pm
Thanks for providing that link - it shows what I said, the AMD64 is the best performer. Realize that the CPU at the top of the chart is the OVERCLOCKED Pentium-M while none of the other processors are overclocked. Also realize that 64 bit windows is not out yet - it's due out this year - and that some games have already been recompiled for 64 bit such as Farcry. 64-bit video drivers are just now getting released and performance will improve far more over the coming year for any AMD-64 chip than it will for any Pentium chip. The AMD-64 is far more future-proof.
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post #12 of 19
1/5/05 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by Heinrich
Thanks for providing that link - it shows what I said, the AMD64 is the best performer. Realize that the CPU at the top of the chart is the OVERCLOCKED Pentium-M while none of the other processors are overclocked. Also realize that 64 bit windows is not out yet - it's due out this year - and that some games have already been recompiled for 64 bit such as Farcry. 64-bit video drivers are just now getting released and performance will improve far more over the coming year for any AMD-64 chip than it will for any Pentium chip. The AMD-64 is far more future-proof.
You say the AMD 64 is future proof. While I agree with this, the use of it in a notebook is completely ridiculous if only for that reason. While your processor is fuure proof, nothing else in your notebook is. So even if you go with the AMD 64 you will still need to buy another notebook either at the same time or a little after than if you just went with the PM. Also, the edge in performance that the link shows is negligilbe. I seriously doubt you will be able to notice even the slightest difference according to those numbers.
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post #13 of 19
1/5/05 at 5:10pm
talking about the overclocked Pentium m...
Has anybody overclocked their Dell laptop (i.e. Inspiron 9200) with applications such as CPUfsb or Softfsb?
Concerning Amd 64 vs. Pentium m I have to say that the Pentium m is good for playing games but in some spplications (I think in rendering like Cad, maya, etc.) it sucks compared to the Amd 64.
Also if you are looking for something that is future proof go for the Amd; It will rock!!!

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post #14 of 19
1/5/05 at 6:52pm
As with the Sager vs Dell issue I have resolved this issue for you all by running some scientific tests of my own. Both the M and the 64 utterly failed my smashed with a hammer test. However, a simple quarter, costing merely a quarter, survived the smashed with the hammer test without any apparent or actual reduction of operating capability. I will gladly run this test multiple more times if anyone feels my scientific method was not precise, however I will need donations of more M and 64 chips. You can even have them back after I am done.
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post #15 of 19
1/5/05 at 6:55pm
Sonicwind, as I mentioned in that other thread, I like your style. hahaha "smashed with a hammer test." hahahaha
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post #16 of 19
1/5/05 at 10:16pm
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Originally Posted by Heinrich
Thanks for providing that link - it shows what I said, the AMD64 is the best performer. Realize that the CPU at the top of the chart is the OVERCLOCKED Pentium-M while none of the other processors are overclocked. Also realize that 64 bit windows is not out yet - it's due out this year - and that some games have already been recompiled for 64 bit such as Farcry. 64-bit video drivers are just now getting released and performance will improve far more over the coming year for any AMD-64 chip than it will for any Pentium chip. The AMD-64 is far more future-proof.
You need to look at the other numbers to. People are not going to be walking around with a PM2.0(OCed to 2.3) or a fx-55. Your comparing a AMD FX55 to a very mobile P-M Dothan 2.0. Has anyone seen a FX55 in a notebook that waighs less then 8lb. I don't think so. The ONLY comparison i see is the PM2.0 vs amd64 3500 and the PM2.0 Wins
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post #17 of 19
1/6/05 at 12:28am
Nobody has even seen an FX55 in a notebook, period.
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post #18 of 19
1/6/05 at 2:35am
Why are we rehashing an argument that spans over a dozen pages from the General section. Want to argue P-M vs AMD? Go look at the existing threads over there. It's freaking long and holds shitloads of arguing. Have fun.

http://notebookforums.com/showthread...pentium+dothan
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...pentium+dothan
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...pentium+dothan

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post #19 of 19
1/6/05 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by lostbob
The ONLY comparison i see is the PM2.0 vs amd64 3500 and the PM2.0 Wins
Not really a fair comparison.
Stock P-M at 2GHz Vs A64 3500 at 2.2GHz?

I wouldn't be surprised if Intel pulled a Budweiser trick and flipped it back on AMD (Miller Lite) by calling these new 2GHz CPU's:
Intel Pentium MA64 3500+ units!
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