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post #21 of 46

Re: Re: Re: Biggest bang for the buck

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Originally posted by Doggonit
Wow, phubar you are so confused. It is 10x speed to rewrite over what has been already written on an CD-RW (rewritable CD). If you take a fresh CD-RW you can write at 24x speed onto it but once you want to overwrite that data you have a max of 10x speed for writing.
I don't think so!!!
You write at 10x no matter what

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Did you just make the "WORM" CD?
WORM is a proper term for CD-Rs. It may be a little antiquated but he certainly didn't make it up (IMHO it is a far better descriptor of the nature of the disk than CD-R
post #22 of 46
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Originally posted by Doggonit
Thanks kasteo but why is it allowed to read such info from my system? I never gave it any such authorization. I may be paranoid, but still, you responded politely while that fool bgesley responded like a maniacal raving foaming-at-the-mouth lunatic... thanks for the courtesy....
Because all webservers collect that info.. some of it helps them have a different page show up depending on software and such that is better, It really isn't a security risk..
post #23 of 46
Thread Starter 
Help me out what is the biggest bang for the buck?

OPTION 5:
3.0GHZ
1024MB
60GB 7200rpm bay1
60GB 7200rpm bay 2
8X DVD/24X10X24X CDRW
XP Pro
Raid 0
$3059

Would this be a smart choice?

What is your solution?

PS: People make mistakes, so please lets have PEACE.

post #24 of 46
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Originally posted by Pro Image
Help me out what is the biggest bang for the buck?

OPTION 5:
3.0GHZ
1024MB
60GB 7200rpm bay1
60GB 7200rpm bay 2
8X DVD/24X10X24X CDRW
XP Pro
Raid 0
$3059

Would this be a smart choice?

What is your solution?

PS: People make mistakes, so please lets have PEACE.

It might be a better idea since from reading it seems like you are more interested in the power than carrying it everywhere to get smaller internal drives and get a firewire drive

usb 2.0/fw enclosure for $57
160gb harddrive 99.99 after rebates
post #25 of 46
That, apart from 7200RPM vs 5400RPM, is exactly what I am planning to get. That is not to say that it will or will not work for you. The faster hard drives may be especially usefull for u as ur photo editing (for the scratch file or whatever its called in Adobe Photshop)
post #26 of 46
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Originally posted by infinity306
Because all webservers collect that info.. some of it helps them have a different page show up depending on software and such that is better, It really isn't a security risk..
Every HTTP connection you make on the net gets the info...if you don't want people seeing it stop pushing it. Get a browser that allows you to set the browser and OS strings. If you don't want people knowing your IP get off the internet. That's like asking someone to call you without giving them the number to reach you at.
post #27 of 46
I feel so stupid....



post #28 of 46
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Originally posted by Doggonit
I feel so stupid....
I didn't point that out to make anyone feel stupid (I don't need to put others down to feel better about myself) but rather to educate the people who may not know. I also did a double take when I first saw the sign...until I read it closely.
post #29 of 46
Hey Doggonit, if you want to see all the stuff any website can display from your computer click here
http://members.cox.net/cooltoad/SI.xml
I think you might be surprised about all the things it can display, however you must know that no one else but you can see those things., oh and make sure to expand each header by clicking on them ( IE Direct X Info , then under that Display device) You'll probably learn things about your computer you didnt even know!
post #30 of 46
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Originally posted by cooltoad
Hey Doggonit, if you want to see all the stuff any website can display from your computer click here
http://members.cox.net/cooltoad/SI.xml
I think you might be surprised about all the things it can display, however you must know that no one else but you can see those things., oh and make sure to expand each header by clicking on them ( IE Direct X Info , then under that Display device) You'll probably learn things about your computer you didnt even know!
Umm yeah, That that isn't my computer? LOL

all of a sudden i got an upgrade to 3.1ghz and radeon 9000 LOL.. must be your computer stats it's listing..
and you forgot to list browser/ip address LOL
post #31 of 46
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Originally posted by infinity306
Actually I think he was referring to the 2x speed not 2 physical dvd-r drives
Doggonit's been waiting for the opportunity to flame me for a long time. I'm glad he had his fun.

Yes, I misinterpreted "2x DVD-RW/CD-RW" to mean two seperate DVD-RW/CD-RW drives, one in each media bay. I still say that, taken completely out of context, that's what "2x DVD-RW/CD-RW" should mean. If you want to take speed spec, say something like "2x1x8xDVD-R/RW/16x10x24CD-RW" which is the actual spec for that drive (courtesy of Power Notebooks). Of course, some less informative vendors might shorten that to "2x DVD-RW/CD-RW" leading to ambiguity and confusion. But Question 1, "What can you do with a 2X DVD-RW/CD-RW?" pretty clearly highlights his intended meaning, and I didn't catch that little word...

Anyways, given that infinity306 already pointed out my error, I'm surprised how Doggonit completely missed the point that you can put a DVD-RW/CD-RW in each of the bays and burn two DVDs at one.

I also don't understand his responce to my answer to Question 3, "Why would you want both a DVD-RW/CD-RW and a 8X DVD/24X10X24 CDRW?"

---My Answer:--------
3) Similar to (1), it lets you burn a CD on one drive while burning a DVD on the other. Similarly to (1), I don't know why you'd want to do this.

Most people getting two optical drives get one for reading and one for writing, such as a DVD/CD - ROM and a DVD-RW/CDRW. That lets you read a file from one optical drive and write it directly to the other.
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---His Response:-----
Ummmm no..... a DVD/CDRW combo drive can read DVD's and CD's and can write onto CD-R's and CD-RW's and can rewrite on CD-RW's. A DVD/CDRW combo drive cannot burn a DVD. Have you ever owned a laptop before? Specifically a Sager? Have you ever owned a combo drive (DVD/CDRW) in a desktop? I am begiining to be very very suspicious about your so-called vast experience and knowledge.
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His statements of fact are completely correct, but I don't see what they have to do with my answer. But I guess I can't fault him for going a bit overboard in his excitement to flame me.

To answer his questions, I've owned 1.5 laptops, counting my Duo 280 as a half (anyone who knows Duos knows why). I've also had unlimited use of two corporate laptops for work. Never owned a Sager, but I know the 56xx and 88xx series support two media bays. Last time I purchased a desktop, CD-Rs didn't exist. My desktop previous to that, DVDs didn't exist - digital format for movies was LaserDisc.

I don't know who's claiming I have vast experience and knowledge. I'm just a guy who's been around the industry for a few years. I happen to be outspoken about my opinions, and very free with offering what knowledge I have, and I double-check my information before posting. But I work in software - any career IT hardware guy will blow me away in this kind of "experience and knowledge".

-phubar
post #32 of 46
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Originally posted by phubar
Doggonit's been waiting for the opportunity to flame me for a long time. I'm glad he had his fun.

Yes, I misinterpreted "2x DVD-RW/CD-RW" to mean two seperate DVD-RW/CD-RW drives, one in each media bay. I still say that, taken completely out of context, that's what "2x DVD-RW/CD-RW" should mean. If you want to take speed spec, say something like "2x1x8xDVD-R/RW/16x10x24CD-RW" which is the actual spec for that drive (courtesy of Power Notebooks). Of course, some less informative vendors might shorten that to "2x DVD-RW/CD-RW" leading to ambiguity and confusion. But Question 1, "What can you do with a 2X DVD-RW/CD-RW?" pretty clearly highlights his intended meaning, and I didn't catch that little word...

Anyways, given that infinity306 already pointed out my error, I'm surprised how Doggonit completely missed the point that you can put a DVD-RW/CD-RW in each of the bays and burn two DVDs at one.


-phubar
I don't know if you could really do that even today(burn 2 at once) Im thinking at the very least it would max out you system usage and very possibly cause errors on at least 1 of them.. burning has come a long way from the beginning when you could possibly cause a coaster just by sneezeing Ok maybe not but that wasnt too far off, but im still thinking burning 2 at once would be a bit much
post #33 of 46
Doggonit is an angry young man isnt he.

Anyway I expect to get flamed for saying that
post #34 of 46
Uh, if you want a drive to read and one to write then get a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive in one bay and a CD-RW or DVD-RW in the other bay. There is no need to make both the reading and the writing drives both WRITERS (As in having the CD-RW drive read the CD and then have another CD-RW or a DVD-RW copy that onto another CD)

Also, why in the world would you burn two of ANYTHING at the same exact time? Is that even possible? Ridiculous.....
post #35 of 46
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Originally posted by Bratag
Doggonit is an angry young man isnt he.

Anyway I expect to get flamed for saying that
I am not angry as I stated once BEFORE, I am just happy to get to flame phubar once, since he has been rude to so many people. He even got angry at gsferrari...
post #36 of 46
Be like me - hate pretty much the entire human race. Its easier if you just assume people are idiots - then its like a little gift or surprise when they turn out not to be - unfortunately this doesnt happen often enough

PS: I dont claim to be the smartest guy on earth - but some people you have to wonder how they manage to walk and keep their heart and lungs going at the same time.

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Originally posted by Doggonit
I am not angry as I stated once BEFORE, I am just happy to get to flame phubar once, since he has been rude to so many people. He even got angry at gsferrari...
post #37 of 46
Would going for a slower processor make sense to make your money go further? The 3.2Ghz CPU and 3Ghz have a premium price over the 2.8Ghz it's an ~$155 on each whereas the 2.6Ghz to 2.8Ghz is $75. Does this make sense?
post #38 of 46
Thats what I am doing.


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Originally posted by etpa00
Would going for a slower processor make sense to make your money go further? The 3.2Ghz CPU and 3Ghz have a premium price over the 2.8Ghz it's an ~$155 on each whereas the 2.6Ghz to 2.8Ghz is $75. Does this make sense?
post #39 of 46
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Originally posted by Doggonit
Uh, if you want a drive to read and one to write then get a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive in one bay and a CD-RW or DVD-RW in the other bay. There is no need to make both the reading and the writing drives both WRITERS (As in having the CD-RW drive read the CD and then have another CD-RW or a DVD-RW copy that onto another CD)

Also, why in the world would you burn two of ANYTHING at the same exact time? Is that even possible? Ridiculous.....
Given the slow data transfer rates in writing to optical media, I'm pretty sure you could burn two optical disks at once without much trouble. Read rates are over twice what write rates are (8x, for a DVD) and don't even come close to tasking the system heavily.

But, as I said before, there aren't many reasons why anyone would want to burn two optical discs at the same time. The only scenario I can think of where that would be useful is for a graphics consultant of some kind - he travels to his client's headquarters, works with them for a few days to produce some designs, and then leaves them multiple optical disks of the work when he leaves. The clients will appreciate having multiple copies of the work themselves immediately, rather than later, and by burning the optical disks himself, the consultant doesn't need to get onto the clients' network, saving a lot of time and hassle.

I also said, and I quote: "Most people getting two optical drives get one for reading and one for writing, such as a DVD/CD - ROM and a DVD-RW/CDRW. That lets you read a file from one optical drive and write it directly to the other." I see you've finally gotten that point.

-phubar
post #40 of 46
That was never the question...... you just blathered that in there..... Sure, on my desktop I have a CD-RW, a CD-ROM, and a DVD-ROM drive. WHY? To play DVD's, and to copy from CD to CD with the CD and CD-RW drives. Also helps with Encylopedia Britannica which is two CD's (put one in the DVD, one in the CD, done)
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