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Uniwill 259IA or Uniwill 258KA0? Opinions?

post #1 of 36
1/7/05 at 1:56am
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Hi Everyone:

Thanks for all the help with assisting me with trying to decide on a laptop. I have narrowed it down between the Uniwill 259IA (Centrino) or Uniwill 258KA0 (AMD) models.

I would like to know what you think about the following:

Which one would perform better for an equal combination of business applications (such as Adobe Photoshop and occassional video rendering) and high-intensive games (such as Doom 3 and CS:Source)?

Speaking of games, since the 259IA is a Centrino and has the Radeon 9700 w/ 256MB VR, would it last nearly two or three years, so I can get the most out of it without having to buy a new laptop to play games? Or since it is a lower processor, would it be quickly outdated?

Finally, would the AMD be a better bet with a 3400 processor and 64 bit technology?

Thanks!
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post #2 of 36
1/7/05 at 8:21am
Hmmm, I'm not sure if this helps at all but have you checked out the Sager NP3790? Very close to 259IA but the Sager is very well built and proven while the Uniwill lacks number of reviews/users. Prices are very close too, and Sager has good support. The Uniwill supposedly has significant bottlenecks that make it less powerful than it's specs show. And the one thing that confuses the hell out of me is that it's dimensions are listed as 12.1" x 10" x .9/1.4"... which is very nice if true but... how do they fit a 15.4 widescreen in 12.1 x 10??? I don't think it's possible for anything larger than a standard 14" LCD!
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post #3 of 36
1/7/05 at 8:23am
I thought the same thing about the screen. Try the Pythagorean Theorem. You will see that it is possible.
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post #4 of 36
1/7/05 at 1:01pm
I agree with ling

10.2^2 + 12.1^2 = C^2

C = 15.825"

Which means that there is not so much wasted screen like the 3790.
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post #5 of 36
1/7/05 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by erikkai
Hi Everyone:

Thanks for all the help with assisting me with trying to decide on a laptop. I have narrowed it down between the Uniwill 259IA (Centrino) or Uniwill 258KA0 (AMD) models.

I would like to know what you think about the following:

Which one would perform better for an equal combination of business applications (such as Adobe Photoshop and occassional video rendering) and high-intensive games (such as Doom 3 and CS:Source)?

Speaking of games, since the 259IA is a Centrino and has the Radeon 9700 w/ 256MB VR, would it last nearly two or three years, so I can get the most out of it without having to buy a new laptop to play games? Or since it is a lower processor, would it be quickly outdated?

Finally, would the AMD be a better bet with a 3400 processor and 64 bit technology?

Thanks!

In general if you care about battery life pick the Uniwill 259IA (Centrino). If you care for a little bit more performance and some future proof with the processor then get the Uniwill 258KA0.

Both these notebooks will have the same gameing life since the GPU will become outdated before your CPU does.

The ATI 9700 is a very good mobile GPU. It's able to play today's current games at decent settings. But future games based off the Doom3 and HL2 engins will push it to it's limits.

As far as 128 Meg ATI 9700 vs 256 Meg ATI 9700 goes, there is minimal performance increase between the two. This is because of the GPU's limitation to process information buffered in the memory isn't fast enough.
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post #6 of 36
1/7/05 at 3:48pm
If you take a close look at product shots, you'll see that the screen doesn't stretch to the edges any more than the screen does on the 3790. The gap between the screen and edges of the case are about the same in proportion. So the screen must be smaller or they lied.

Take a look:


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post #7 of 36
1/7/05 at 3:51pm
Actually, I think you posted somewhere that you purchased the Uniwill, Ling. So is it really the size it claims to be? Is it as small as a compact 14" notebook but with a 15.4" widescreen?
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post #8 of 36
1/7/05 at 4:03pm
It all boils down to one thing, the processor. The form factor between the two laptops you've asked about are pretty much the same. They are both manufactor by Uniwill and both offer 15.4" WSXGA. Eventhough one is ATI 9700 128MB and the other is ATI 9700 256MB, the performance in gaming between the two is very mininmal differences.

The actual performance boils down between to either get the Pentium-M or go with AMD 64. The other thing to consider is the weight between the two is approx 1lb differences.

Otherwise, feature wise, pretty much the same.

One thing to consider though, the 258 series offer one thing the 259 series doesn't offer. A few places offer custom paint job on the 258 series and not the 259 series.
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post #9 of 36
1/7/05 at 4:12pm
Why is that? I will get my 259 this evening, but is there something about the material of the case or the construction that precludes some of the shops from offering a custom paint job? I noticed the same thing and have been surprised.
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post #10 of 36
1/7/05 at 4:24pm
I think it is more around them being able to cleaning remove all the components (board, chip, HD, etc) and be left with just straight chassis to do the custom paint job.

From my gather, they will be offering it as soon as they are able to accomplish this.
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post #11 of 36
1/7/05 at 4:25pm
Ok,

About the size, I had not thought about it until mentioned and it does seem small for a 15.4" screen. I called RJtech and the guy went to measure one and he said that it is 14"+. The other measurements he said were fine.
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post #12 of 36
1/8/05 at 3:12pm
I have one, (uniwill 259IA) and yes its 14" wide.
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post #13 of 36
1/8/05 at 3:43pm
Thread Starter 

New Question...

Will the new AMD Centrino-like chip be affordable or will it be very expensive when it first hits the market?

In other words, should I wait two months for the new chips to hit the market? Thanks.
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post #14 of 36
1/8/05 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by Kalessin
I have one, (uniwill 259IA) and yes its 14" wide.

Why dony you give us a review or some impressions of this machine. There has only been 1 review posted on this lappy. More info would be much appreciated.

Of the bat where did you get it from and what battery does it have (6, 8 or 9 cell) how much does it last both in regular use and demanding.

Hope you can inlighten us with some more onfo on this machine.
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post #15 of 36
1/8/05 at 6:11pm

Uniwill 2591A screen size

I noticed Uniwill and RJ Tech list it as being 14.1" wide. Ibuypower lists 12.1". I think it's just a typo.
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post #16 of 36
1/8/05 at 8:33pm
There are another uniwill model that is a 12.1 screen. You might be confused with it.

The 259IA is 15.4 wide screen
http://www.uniwill.com/products/perf...a.php?HL=1&P=1

The 245II0 looks like the 259IA, but only 14.1 screen
http://www.uniwill.com/products/mobi...0.php?HL=2&M=1

Same with the 223IIO, except this one is a 12.1 screen
http://www.uniwill.com/products/mobi...0.php?HL=2&M=2
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post #17 of 36
1/9/05 at 1:22am
Thread Starter 

My purchase...thanks for the advice.

I just purchased the AMD model, as I feel it is more "future proof" than the PM. I'll have to deal with battery life, as this is more of a desktop replacement.

My specs....

AMD Mobile Athlon 64 Processor 3000+ operates at 1.8GHz, 1600MHz FSB, 1MB Cache
15.4 WXGA 1280x800 Wide Screen TFT LCD Display
512MB SODIM PC-2700 DDR 333MHz Memory
40GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive
ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB 8X AGP Video Modual w/S-Video TV out
Internal DVD+CD Rewritable Combo Drive 8X24X16X24
None or Bundled CDRW Software w/CDRW Purchase Only
Integrated AC97 Audio w/1 Mic-In, 1 Audio-Out/SPDIF out and 1 Line-In Jack
Built-in 10/100 Fast Ethernet Network Port
Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG 802.11b/g Mini PCI Wireless Module
1 Serial, 1 Parallel, 1 Game/Midi, 1 Modem, 1 IEEE 1394 Firewire, 1 S-VGA Out, and 3 USB ports
1 Infrared, 1 Type II Card Buss PCMCIA and 3-in-1 Memory Card reader for MMC/SD/MS
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
14QuoteMark Width X 10.8QuoteMark Depth X 1.5QuoteMark Height. 7.7lbs.
Standard 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty
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post #18 of 36
1/9/05 at 2:51am
What is sad is that, I haven't seen anyone of those place, cyberpower system, Ibuypower, RJTech, etc offer the low power AMD Mobile version.
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post #19 of 36
1/9/05 at 3:50am
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Originally Posted by erikkai
I just purchased the AMD model, as I feel it is more "future proof" than the PM. I'll have to deal with battery life, as this is more of a desktop replacement.

My specs....

AMD Mobile Athlon 64 Processor 3000+ operates at 1.8GHz, 1600MHz FSB, 1MB Cache
15.4 WXGA 1280x800 Wide Screen TFT LCD Display
512MB SODIM PC-2700 DDR 333MHz Memory
40GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive
ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB 8X AGP Video Modual w/S-Video TV out
Internal DVD+CD Rewritable Combo Drive 8X24X16X24
None or Bundled CDRW Software w/CDRW Purchase Only
Integrated AC97 Audio w/1 Mic-In, 1 Audio-Out/SPDIF out and 1 Line-In Jack
Built-in 10/100 Fast Ethernet Network Port
Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG 802.11b/g Mini PCI Wireless Module
1 Serial, 1 Parallel, 1 Game/Midi, 1 Modem, 1 IEEE 1394 Firewire, 1 S-VGA Out, and 3 USB ports
1 Infrared, 1 Type II Card Buss PCMCIA and 3-in-1 Memory Card reader for MMC/SD/MS
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
14QuoteMark Width X 10.8QuoteMark Depth X 1.5QuoteMark Height. 7.7lbs.
Standard 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty

slightly lower spec than mine (3000 vs 3200 and 5400rpm vs 7200rpm) but over-all not a bad buy
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post #20 of 36
1/9/05 at 3:58am
Thread Starter 

Thanks!

Thanks! Only paid $1368 !
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