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post #21 of 36
bumping this thread...erikkai, where did you order your system and how do you llike it so far?? im debating which one to get..CL56 or Uniwill 258ka0?? decision ....decisions...
post #22 of 36
i own the 259ia3. i measured the width as 14.1in. it suits my needs perfectly as i can play hl2 1200x800 everything on high.

if you say the first thing to be outdated is the gpu, i would assume the 256mb would last a little bit longer
post #23 of 36
Thread Starter 
I loved it but had to send it back to the company, twice, due to hardware problems. Now I am on the market again.
post #24 of 36
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Originally Posted by Rustican
In general if you care about battery life pick the Uniwill 259IA (Centrino). If you care for a little bit more performance and some future proof with the processor then get the Uniwill 258KA0.

Both these notebooks will have the same gameing life since the GPU will become outdated before your CPU does.

The ATI 9700 is a very good mobile GPU. It's able to play today's current games at decent settings. But future games based off the Doom3 and HL2 engins will push it to it's limits.

As far as 128 Meg ATI 9700 vs 256 Meg ATI 9700 goes, there is minimal performance increase between the two. This is because of the GPU's limitation to process information buffered in the memory isn't fast enough.
There is a notebook review to confirm this. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mob...r-ferrari.html ASUS A4S00K with Athlon 64 M 2800+ MR 9700 64MB tested faster in games then the Ferrari With the same CPU, Mem, GPU but with 128MB instead. So for todays games it doesn't even make a diffrence especially going above 128MB.
post #25 of 36
so erikkai...vicious pc is not a very good place to buy?? im thinking of getting the uniwill 258ka0 because i like its design better than the cl56
post #26 of 36
ibuypower cyberpower and mwave are worth checking out if you want the 258 for cheap
post #27 of 36
Thread Starter 
I cancelled my order from Vicious PC because they just kept increasing the price....didn't like that. MWave has the finest customer service rep, but I had the hardware problem which forced me to send them back the lappy.

I would definitely consider ordering from MWave again...just make sure you stay on the techs to confirm that the correct order went out.
post #28 of 36
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Originally Posted by abf
ibuypower cyberpower and mwave are worth checking out if you want the 258 for cheap
There's another thread here describing someone's terrible experience with IBP. And a follow up thread here. It has certainly made me steer well clear of them. I know that any single story is obviously anecdotal at best, but that one is awfully compelling.
post #29 of 36
erikkai what hardware problem did you have with mwave??
post #30 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbhertz
There's another thread here describing someone's terrible experience with IBP. And a follow up thread here. It has certainly made me steer well clear of them. I know that any single story is obviously anecdotal at best, but that one is awfully compelling.
like you said, there are horror stories about every store, this specific person just blew it out of proportion and happened to post it where you read it. if you ask there are dozens of happy ibuypower buyers on this forum including myself.
post #31 of 36
Thread Starter 
Since I am not an expert, the first laptop I received kept seeming like the motherboard shorted out and caused a feedback through the speakers. A week later, and after sending it back, a replacement arrived.

I spent 12 hours installing all my software and stuff in the replacement model. Then, in the middle of everything, the laptop began to suddenly turn off without any warning and without any ryhme or reason.

To make a very long story short, after spending considerable time on these forums to see if there was an easy diagnosis, I downloaded system performance tests and a memory test. Both tests crashed each time causing the computer to turn off. I had my friend install Photoshop so we can test the graphics out, and that program, while in use, also caused the computer to shutdown, too.

Then, I tried CS: Source and each time it caused the computer to turn off. And yes, I tried the power settings, saw that the bios was updated and even made sure the latest ATI OEM driver was in use. I double checked to make sure there was no conflicts and saw that the temp of the laptop seemed normal. It had me scratching my head.

To no avail, the crashing kept occurring. To add insult to injury, while looking at the system config in the device manager, I noticed that MWave had given me a 4200 RPM drive and not the 5400 RPM 8MB cache one I paid for. I was quite upset, seeing how I spent 12 hours (or near that) installing all of my biz apps.

So, this morning, I called MWave's customer service. The first girl I spoke to did not believe me when I told her the model number of the hard drive was the Hitachi 40GB 4200 RPM. It was quite insulting because she said I had to wait one more hour to call Tech Support so they could verify my story.

So, lo and behold, I called Tech Support at 9 am. The tech also did not take my word for it and insisted I open the back of the laptop and remove the hard drive to read the label. I didn't want to do that, but he insisted, even though I questioned him about voiding an existing warranty. He said it would not, so I listened to his advice.

I followed his directions and finally was able to read the label to him. Guess what? I was right. They sent me the 4200 RPM drive. But what's worse is that I sliced my hand pretty good while getting the drive out.

The tech guy, nevertheless, told me they would overnight me a correct hard drive. I thanked him and called customer support where I talked to a very helpful, professional and corteous customer support rep.

She also told me the right drive would be overnighted to me. However, by this time, I just didn't want to fool with anything anymore and I requested they just overnight me a new laptop with the correct drive inside, seeing how the tech support couldn't help me with my initial problem of the laptop automatically shutting down. I also didn't want to fool around inside of a laptop. I can't imagine their techs requesting customers to do that.

The nice rep regretably said they couldn't sned me a new one, so, disappointingly, I requested an RMA # to return the laptop.

I would still consider buying from MWave, but just not now. Two defective laptops in two weeks just blows, so I am taking a break for now. So far, I am satisfied with their customer support and company. I blame the manufacturer more tha MWave.

I just think I have some really bad luck this month.
post #32 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by erikkai
I spent 12 hours installing all my software and stuff in the replacement model. Then, in the middle of everything, the laptop began to suddenly turn off without any warning and without any ryhme or reason.

To make a very long story short, after spending considerable time on these forums to see if there was an easy diagnosis, I downloaded system performance tests and a memory test. Both tests crashed each time causing the computer to turn off. I had my friend install Photoshop so we can test the graphics out, and that program, while in use, also caused the computer to shutdown, too.

Then, I tried CS: Source and each time it caused the computer to turn off. And yes, I tried the power settings, saw that the bios was updated and even made sure the latest ATI OEM driver was in use. I double checked to make sure there was no conflicts and saw that the temp of the laptop seemed normal. It had me scratching my head.
From your description, the it seems that the most likely cause of your problems is a bad memory chip at a specific location. The programs that are causing the crashes all seem to have a large memory foot-print. If Windows was not crashing on its own, then the kernel memory, the first 5 MB, would seem OK. It's when a large, memory intensive program is loaded that you get the problems. It's also possible that the memory timing was not set correctly, that it was running beyond what is allowed in the physical specification.

Did you have a message on the blue screen of something like: "DEVICE_DRIVER_STUCK_IN_THREAD (2-3 sets of hexadecimal number) ..." ?
post #33 of 36
Thread Starter 
No messages. BUT, I agree that only real memory-intensive programs would cause the computer to crash.

I always install some apps and test programs to see how the system is going to handle things. I was quite surprise that the system, when taxed, routinely turned itself off.

This is the main reason why I sent it back. When I purchase a laptop, I expect the memory and hardware to be what I ordered and in perfect condition.

Seems a bit of bad luck on my part.
post #34 of 36
everyone seems to think that the ati 9700 w/256m wont make much improvement over the ati 9700 w/128m. what about in dual monitor mode? I sometimes like a crt for friends to watch on, instead of over my shoulder.
post #35 of 36

259IA bios update

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustican
In general if you care about battery life pick the Uniwill 259IA (Centrino). If you care for a little bit more performance and some future proof with the processor then get the Uniwill 258KA0.
I am a registered member of Uniwill forum. I found the information on new 259IA bios that fixes the potential battery problem.

You can find bios update info here: http://store.ekm.com/
Or you can go to Uniwill.com
post #36 of 36
Thanks. This is good to know.
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