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post #101 of 255
1/10/05 at 7:36pm
Longhorn beta can already be found. It's not the best example of 64-bit technology at work, but it works. And I plan on keeping my 9860 for a long long time. I mean, how can you spend over 2,000 and NOT expect to use it for a while?
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post #102 of 255
1/10/05 at 7:42pm
I plan on using mine for 2 years or so. Then I'll upgrade. I've seen benchmarks with the beta of Longhorn and I don't remember there being much improvement over 32 bit Windows.

As a note, Eurocom as a P-M PCI-e laptop listed in their future products. I believe they are a Clevo reseller as well?

http://www.eurocom.com/products/future/index.htm
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post #103 of 255
1/10/05 at 9:08pm
I dunno, this notebook is nice, but it's too similar to a 9860 for my tastes.

Given that a 2.00Ghz Pentium-M has better gaming performance than a P4 3.2Ghz (so a 2.13Ghz Pentium-M should compete well with 3.4-3.6Ghz P4s), will run much cooler, will require fewer/smaller fans, will likely shave 4-5lbs off the notebook weight, and will require a smaller power brick....seems like it's a total win for me.

And IMO, should be for everyone who doesn't care about 64-bitness. That is to say, almost everyone.
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post #104 of 255
1/10/05 at 10:01pm
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Originally Posted by blueblurr
but AGAIN, 64-bit compatibility is vital to me, and has anyone heard of a 64-bit Pentium M in development? If so, does it work with exisiting pentium M chipsets? I'm pretty sure it's no and no. That's where I'm coming from.
I haven't heard anything on the 64-bit edition for the P-M but P4 64 bit is coming out in the next couple of months. Also Windows Longhorn OEM's will be out in the fall with companies like Dell, HP but retail is scheduled for Spring of 2006. But with Microsoft you never know. For all you know they might either postpone the release or have a mini version of the OS. Already they are cutting down on some of the technology for Longhorn like avalon/indigo. They will take more time.

64-bit is also crucial to me. Hopefully hardware companies will upgrade the drivers. If any of you is interested in installing the beta, let me know I can send you the link. Hopefully its still there.
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post #105 of 255
1/10/05 at 11:50pm
could you please pm me the link? thanks
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post #106 of 255
1/11/05 at 12:06am
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Originally Posted by postal
This thing is almost 2" thick, I have a feeling there'll be a centrino model launched verryyyyyyyyyy soon that will be much thinner, so I think I'm going to be holding out for those. Incase you guys didn't see on the other post, 915 / 925 chipsets for intel WILL allow for P4 EMT64 chips, but not dual core chips.
My information sources say, this is not true. 915 will support dual core chips, maybe with a BIOS update, but if those chips work, sager will give us a flash, I´m sure. 915 is really not so old and what options are there in future chip design else than 64bit and dual core ?
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post #107 of 255
1/11/05 at 1:23am
I'd check again eingang, anandtech specifically said in their article that they're not supported.

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows...aspx?i=2317&p=2

I dont mind having a p4 with a 7-10lb notebook, but not when its 2" thick.

Also, most mobile video cards have nifty power saving features which lets the card use less power, so you've got a mobile notebook / dtr when you want it. The 9860 will probably be slightly ahead in benches with whatever centrino models come out, but to me thats well worth getting a thinner notebook with longer battery life.
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post #108 of 255
1/11/05 at 1:47am
For those interested in the upcoming Intel P4 3.80Ghz EM64 processor, the estimated retail price is $759.00 expected to come out in the next 60 days.
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post #109 of 255
1/11/05 at 6:47am
A picture from the CES:
http://www.amdzone.com/modules/galle...2/P1010112.jpg
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post #110 of 255
1/11/05 at 9:49am
is the minipci tv tuner built in?
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post #111 of 255
1/11/05 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by Killafornia
is the minipci tv tuner built in?
I assume it'll be the same tv tuner used in the 9860 (why wouldn't it be?). So yes, I think.
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post #112 of 255
1/11/05 at 2:28pm
Hey, look.. glossy screen!

Wonder which models will have glossy.
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post #113 of 255
1/11/05 at 3:57pm
Finally the replacement for the 5690!

I hope the mini slideshow LCD thingy is an option
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post #114 of 255
1/11/05 at 4:03pm
Maybe it can be used to show album art when in dj mode.... but I doubt it.
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post #115 of 255
1/11/05 at 7:44pm
I really love the design of it..looks sleek... Its a good compromise from the 9860 and I really like they put the 256mb video cards in this time around.. I couldn't give up my beautiful 17 inch display though..it still makes me drool...now im in the market to replace my crt and i compare every lcd I see to the one on my 9860 heh..
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post #116 of 255
1/11/05 at 10:00pm
God I hope the AMD w/ATI x800 model gets a 17" screen.. I see @ eurocomms site that it is a 15.4
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post #117 of 255
1/12/05 at 12:41am
When will this notebook be available to order?
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post #118 of 255
1/12/05 at 2:52am
Long time reader, first time poster.

After reading these forums for about half a year now I will definetly check out the Eurocom Centrino/PM based model. Someone earlier didn't understand the reasons for wanting and heavy video card and a light processor. Well don't both provide power/processor scaling to save heat and battery? Why not do both to keep size down? My ideal notebook would be the new centrino/amd centrino "killer" with a 6800 card. Something under $1800 shipped and I'll be first in line.

Edit: I noticed the Eurocom M400A COBRA (7620) will come with a upgradeable X700 not a 6800 or X800. Anyone know how much a 6800 or X800 cost to upgrade the stock X700?
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post #119 of 255
1/12/05 at 6:37am
I can't find any information about the mobile radeon x700....its not even listed on ATI's site.
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post #120 of 255
1/12/05 at 10:40am
Both systems (7620) and the M400A COBRA seem different enough. Are they even considered different versions of the same system?



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Description:
Designed for maximum of Mobility and Performance. EUROCOM M400A Cobra is a fully upgradeable notebook model based on Intel's next generation of Centrino technology featuring 533MHz Front Side Bus Alviso chipset. Fully upgradeable/modular video card - choice of ATi Mobility Radeon X700 128 MB or 256MB dedicated video memory with 16x PCI Express architecture. SRS (Sound Retrieval System) and WOW 3D sound technology.

Display:
15.0-inch XGA (1024 x 768 pixels) or SXGA+ (1400-by-1050 pixels) with Glossy Screen

Shipping Date: January 15, 2005

Specifications Configure

Base Spec:
- Processor: Intel Pentium M Processor with 2 MB cache up to 2.13GHz (770); 533MHz Front Side Bus;
- Memory: up to 2 GB of DDR333 memory via two sockets
- Video: upgradeable/modular video with ATi Mobility X700; 128 or 256 MB video memory; 16x PCI Express
- 3-in-1 card reader (SD, MS, MMC)
- Hard Drive: up to 100GB Hard Drive ATA or SATA
- Optical Drive: a choice of optical drive including a Multi slot-based DVD
- Communications: 1 Gigabit Ethernet and 56K V90/V92 modem
- Wireless: 802.11b/g WLAN and Bluetooth
- Video Conferencing: optional internal CMOS webcam
- Battery Life: up to 8 hours with 12-cell battery
- Ports: 4x USB 2.0 ports; 1x mini-EEE1394a FireWire; 1x external CRT monitor port; 1x printer port; 3x speaker jack autodetect microphone change; 1x S/PDIF Output; 1x RJ-11 jack for Plug&Play fax/Modem; 1x RJ-45 jack for 1 Gigabit LAN;DC-in jack
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