Sager 7620 announced - Page 5

Unfortunately, I don't believe it is. In the announcement, it is stated as a standard option, along with items like a modular SmartBay and the Front Panel AudioDJ.

I don't like the gimmicky external screen, or even the raised emblem without the screen. Makes it harder to flip the laptop over and dig around the insides, or catch on things in your backpack.

Yeah, is the TFT (external) screen an option or a "feature"? Only use I can see for it is to flash "OWNED" pictures when you frag your opponent during a lan party and he happens to be sitting in front of you.

Since I rarely LAN, its not something I really want.

I usually don't smile at things like this... But, that was funny! Especially if you could flash a picture of you owning them in the process. LOL!

haha thats classic, flashing up "OWNED" when you frag them.

what's even better is at uni or cafe and a honey girl sits across from you and you can play a slide show of yourself stripping down..

or something along those lines that is very deviate

Nice notebook, except for the CPU...

It can hold the most powerful Intel processors for a notebook ... maybe you are an AMD fanboy, and then the proper comment should have been "Nice notebook, except it doesn't have an AMD CPU..."

(psst, I'm an Intel fanboy )

Mmmmm

Fortunently, that however is not true, i walked into staples a few months ago and saw a 15.4 Glossy screen. Even if it was true, sager/clevo has pretty much revolutionized the laptop buisness, why not do it again?

Edit: I think the CPU is an OK Choice, i'd perfer a Athlon 64 Bit processor, because IMO i think in laptops the athlon cpu's have better cooling/are colder, my father has an athlon xp-m, and it was cooler then his older PC that was a pentium 4. I also believe the Athlon 64 bit CPU is faster, however i've never owned one. Personally, i'd love to play games with 64 bit quality.

It could be that he wants a PM cpu instead of a P4. Hell he might even be wishing for a Transmeta Efficion processor. Or maybe if he was a total fruitcake he might have been praying for a G5.

I was thinking about a CPU for a notebook. Not the worst possible (power and thermal ratings) desktop CPU. That's all. Maybe a mobile CPU? But then again, this notebook is not very mobile...

This thing is almost 2" thick, I have a feeling there'll be a centrino model launched verryyyyyyyyyy soon that will be much thinner, so I think I'm going to be holding out for those. Incase you guys didn't see on the other post, 915 / 925 chipsets for intel WILL allow for P4 EMT64 chips, but not dual core chips.

You guys and the CPU comments (wrong one, centrino...) are looking at the wrong notebook. There are obviously two classes of notebooks today. The truely mobile type, and the desktop replacement type. This one is a desktop replacement and is built for power computing, not battery life. Clevo builds some power saving types, but you will have to give up some things for those type of notebooks of course. You will never find power savings or centrinos or any type of slimmed down hardware in this line of notebooks, ever.

Yea, I agree completely. I keep hearing of people wanting a Pentium M or Centrino with some huge graphics card like an x800. This seems so very pointless. The Pentium M is, obviously, designed for portability and power-saving; the x800 card, obviously, is not. Won't the battery life on such an equipped laptop just suck anyway due tot he demanding gfx card? If not, it most certainly will in gaming. The only real advantage I can see is the lower amounts of heat produced by the Pentium M. But to counter that, I think that the 9860's mobo support for upcoming Intel 64-bit processors far outweighs any advantages of the never-going-to-be-64-bit Pentium M. Centrinos and Pentium M's are designed for mobile application, i.e. web surfing, document creation, etc. They are NOT designed for playing hl2 at full specs at 1680x1050, so why overkill the thing with such a massive gfx card? Just makes no sense to me. And yes, I know, I've seen benchmarks of comparable Pentium M's and P4's tested, so don't throw that in my face please.

I disagree with you on that blueburr. True, the technology for light-weight powerful notebooks is not there in production but surely there in the research pipeline. Intel is coming with its new Centrino2 chip and mobo to support it which in turn supports PCIe cards. It might still be a couple of years before you see a truly centrino or P-M gaming notebook but it will come.

Who would have thought this day would come even 3-4 years ago? I won't be surprised at 5-6 lb notebook 1 or 2 years from now capable of doing what 9860 is doing now. That my friend is the ever dynamic technology

If you've seen the benchmarks comparing them then how can you say a Pentium-M is not capable of gaming? It is as good (if not better) then a Prescott processor. Plus, it runs cooler and uses less battery.

I know this, but what I'm saying is that in terms of upgradability, the 9860 is supreme and centrino/pentium M systems are dead in the water. My computer purchase has to last, and I just don't see that with the thin and light systems, at least not on the processor side. I think it's great that they're going with PCIe with pentium Ms, but AGAIN, 64-bit compatibility is vital to me, and has anyone heard of a 64-bit Pentium M in development? If so, does it work with exisiting pentium M chipsets? I'm pretty sure it's no and no. That's where I'm coming from.

well blueburr, if you've seen the benchmarks then i don't understand why you contradict them with your post. i see it this way...few people here (and in the general market) are mostly interested in video encoding, which is of the most significant of the few benches that the p4 beats out the p-m. most people here are mostly interested in gaming (aside from general tasking) and the p-m does extremely well there and will do even better after the 17th. one could design a 9860 type notebook that will consume over 80 watts less power using a p-m instead of a p4 and get almost the same performance, though the cost would be somewhat greater. taking this further, sans the dual optical discs, you could make the p-m 9860 cooler, quiter, thinner and lighter, maybe even a couple pounds lighter since you wont need all those fans, heat speaders, etc. cooling it down. also your power brick would be much smaller. another possible benefit is in video card performance. you can only move so much air in a box that size. the p4 consumes over 100 watts and the video card about 35 watts. obiously most of that air and cooling methods in general are directed to the cpu. with a p-m you could redesign the internal chassis so that most of the airflow gets directed on the video card. this would equate to higher standard clocks and higher overclocking. the end result is that a well designed p-m version of the 9860 would game better in addition to the other benefits i already listed. i think a lot of people here would pay $150-$200 extra for all that.

also you are probably right on the 64bit front, but who knows, eventually this platform will get 64 bit tech and like the 915, it might be compatible with the new p-m mobos so we can send them back for an upgrade.

edit: ok since you are now saying that the p-m will never get 64 bit tech then i definitely disagree. just because we haven't heard about it doesn't mean it isn't coming. the 64bit p-4 are about a month away and it wasn't until the last couple of days that we finally we found out that the 9860 can handle it without a total mobo upgrade.

So tell me, why then did Celvo decide on a P4 chipset for the 9860 instead of a PM? Simple marketing, or is there something else to it?

As I don't know, when do the 64 bit processors come out? Also, when does an OS come out that supports it?

It's great to plan for the future and all that but I seriously doubt if 64 bit will make that huge of a difference in the lifespan of this notebook. I guess it depends on how long you plan on keeping it though.

Because a P4 PCI-e chipset is available now. Same reason they don't have an AMD PCI-e laptop out.