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January 18th looming large!

post #1 of 102
1/7/05 at 9:48pm
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I've read in a couple of different sources that there are 150 new models of laptops set to debut when Intel releases Sonoma/Alvisio on January 18th. No other chip has been received with such a large number of supporters... obviously because of the lighter weight and power savings that it will provide.

I'm sure Dell has some new things waiting to come out very soon now and I'm sure someone on this forum has some inside information. Let's get it out here! If you go to the www.thinkpads.com forum, there is more info on the new T43 than you can stand.

Also, I read in Computer Reseller Magazine that HP is preparing to steal market share from IBM because of the Lenovo purchase and the uncertainty that it has created regarding the future of their product line. Supposedly, HP will be introducing some new laptops at very, very competitive prices.

Anybody got any info on what HP may be preparing for release...?
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post #2 of 102
1/7/05 at 9:53pm
i just ordered a dell 700m 1.8..... how long until this chipset is in new dells. should i cancel my order?

thanks
m.
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post #3 of 102
1/7/05 at 10:01pm
Looks like 11 days for the initial release, but I think the version with integrated video will be later.
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post #4 of 102
1/7/05 at 10:03pm
does the launch date mean that dell will be offering laptops on that day?
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post #5 of 102
1/7/05 at 11:25pm
If I had a laptop on order I would definitely cancel as it sounds like there will soon be a slew of new and improved laptops flooding the market from various manufactuers. I was preparing to order an Inspiron 9200, but I am holding out for the killer Inspiron 9300.

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post #6 of 102
1/7/05 at 11:26pm
well, nobody has info on 12" inspiron's coming out for a while.....kinda hard to tell, eh?
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post #7 of 102
1/8/05 at 3:56pm
dont cancelle, whats the point to get something newer. well the fact is there will always be something newer and better what you own. So let it rest the i700 came out in novermeber if im correct. whats the rush unless you plan to pay double for the sonota intel. Then shoot away but when you do get your new dell they will have multimidia dell laptops with agp videocards. i think you need to cancell that order also. They will have a laptop with double of whatyou have and half the price.


Take a rest, you like what you got? then stick with it.

Beholder
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post #8 of 102
1/8/05 at 8:39pm
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Originally Posted by BeholderX
dont cancelle, whats the point to get something newer. well the fact is there will always be something newer and better what you own. So let it rest the i700 came out in novermeber if im correct. whats the rush unless you plan to pay double for the sonota intel. Then shoot away but when you do get your new dell they will have multimidia dell laptops with agp videocards. i think you need to cancell that order also. They will have a laptop with double of whatyou have and half the price.


Take a rest, you like what you got? then stick with it.

Beholder
Dude, its nice to see you have no idea what you're talking about. It's one thing to get a laptop a couple months before new technology comes out, and its quite another thing to recieve your laptop a few days after it comes out. Sonoma has alot of battery saving features which will give notebooks better battery life, in addition to an upgradable graphics interface, which will give users at least one graphics card upgrade during the life of their laptop, which is a lot cheaper than having to buy a new one...
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post #9 of 102
1/8/05 at 8:43pm
i think what BeholderX is trying to say.....computer technology comes and goes everyday, so there will always be something newer and better. And if you upgrade your computer everytime something new comes out you are going to spend a shitload of money, when there really won't be that much difference in the technology, just alot of it is marketing to get all the hype up on a new product so they can make money on everyone. When these new models come out the models like the 9200 will be alot cheaper bc they are trying to sell them off. If i were you i would wait a little bit and see how the prices on the current laptops drop when these new sonoma's come out.
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post #10 of 102
1/8/05 at 9:08pm
I'm not saying that the prices aren't going to be more, they probably will end up being higher than current prices, so if someone has reached their ceiling for a price, the next two weeks would be the time to buy since they're gonna try to get rid of all the first generation centrino models. However if someone has the extra money to spend on it, and would benefit from the features then I definetely think its in their best interest to hold out. If anyone happens to be waiting for the prices to go down though, I wouldn't wait beyond the announcement of the i9300, companies tend to just discontinue the lower model of similar products (we all saw what happened with the 9100 and XPS).
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post #11 of 102
1/9/05 at 7:43am
here's a few newer links about the sonoma...enjoy:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20576

http://crn.com/sections/breakingnews...cleId=57300457

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1748912,00.asp
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post #12 of 102
1/9/05 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by maoun
i just ordered a dell 700m 1.8..... how long until this chipset is in new dells. should i cancel my order?

thanks
m.
I think there could be some significant improvements in the speed, size, and functionality of the new Sonoma/Alvisio combination.

If you need a laptop NOW for work or gaming, get it. When you need it, there is no reason in the world to wait.

But... if you can aford to wait for a couple of weeks, you will be able to make an informed decision about whether to wait or buy now, because on January 18th, we'll be able to see not just what Dell will be offering but everybody else as well. I've heard of new models from lots of vendors and Dell may or may not be offering some of the best and newest improvements.

The really unique thing about the Sonoma introduction is the number of vendors who are planning to support it almost as soon as it is released. I'm looking forward to some really great new laptops.
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post #13 of 102
1/9/05 at 2:51pm
This reminds me of the recent HUGE DELL COUPON fiasco. Lots of sizzle and no steak.

Desktops went through this same thing a year or so, right? Faster bus speeds. PCI-e replacing AGP. DDR2 RAM. What it all amounted to was a little better performance and more expensive parts.

Sonoma is only something to look forward to if you were planning to buy a DTR. This move basically makes DTR's with desktop chips, cooling problems, and short-battery life obsolete.

If you were already in the market for a Pentium-M system (or already bought one), Sonoma is a non-event.
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post #14 of 102
1/9/05 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by dellbert
If you were already in the market for a Pentium-M system (or already bought one), Sonoma is a non-event.
I have to disagree with you there. I am in the market for a Pentium-M and I think Somona is HUGE. And so do most major notebook manufacturers who are about to release a flurry of Somona laptops. Somona represents one of the biggest advances in laptop technology we have yet to see - it’s got PCI Express, a 533MHz FSB, DDR2 SDRAM, simplified Intel Wireless A, B, and G, cutting edge video card solutions, improved power savings - thus it can run cooler and with longer battery life, and integrated Intel's High Definition Audio technology.
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post #15 of 102
1/9/05 at 3:14pm
So, for somebody like the guy above thinking about buying a 700m, what benefits will Sonoma give him. The lappy already weighs 4lbs and gets 4 hours of battery life. I'm not aware of anything Sonoma offers that will improve on that. For somebody looking at the 700m, a new Somoma-based replacement is likely to be more expensive and a little faster. What am I missing?
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post #16 of 102
1/9/05 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by dellbert
So, for somebody like the guy above thinking about buying a 700m, what benefits will Sonoma give him. The lappy already weighs 4lbs and gets 4 hours of battery life. I'm not aware of anything Sonoma offers that will improve on that. For somebody looking at the 700m, a new Somoma-based replacement is likely to be more expensive and a little faster. What am I missing?
It would require Dell to create a new 700m BIOS. Right now both A00 & A01 seem to be buggy on the 700m and several people have downgraded their BIOS'es back to A00 due to seizing problems w/the 700m. Possibly a improved BIOS would also allow Windows 2003 to correctly install without the need to use non-ACPI IRQ steering. As it stands now, the Windows 2003 SP1 boot CD doesn't recognize the 700m as having a ACPI compliant BIOS with either A00 or A01.
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post #17 of 102
1/9/05 at 3:33pm
Heh. You're right that all of the new Sonoma-based lappies will require new BIOS code. But I'm a software weenie, and I can tell you that when it comes to code, newer rarely means better
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post #18 of 102
1/9/05 at 6:55pm
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Just because Dell can't get their bios right doesn't mean we shouldn't look forward to Sonoma's debut. Sonoma will bring competition and that will force all vendors to put up or shut up. With the sale of IBM's pc business to Lenovo, I think you will see some vendors who may add a little extra "pop" in their Sonoma offerings just to try and steal some market share from IBM. No doubt some, like me, will be considering a move to something other than IBM.
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post #19 of 102
1/10/05 at 12:36am
I duno about the bios problem but i updated mine dont know if from intel or the dell download site buti dont seem to have any problem.

For clearer purpose on what i tried to say;is exactly what RMHOP81 understood. Main point is, you got the money to spend by the top of the line rig at its premier. Want to save money profite from a new release because the older models will have a downfall in price.
Sonota is and should be amazing but nothing to get overly exited.


BeholderX
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post #20 of 102
1/10/05 at 12:45pm
I agree with Dellbert. The main advantage of Sonoma (at least to me) is to get a DTR notebook that actually can play games while on battery for a large amount of time. I want something that can play all the latest games at high resolution/detail and play a LOTR movie as well without being plugged in.
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