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post #21 of 102
Once the sonoma comes out, and Dell lowers the existing dothan prices, I'm sure one could get at least $600 for their i9200 or $400 for their i700 on ebay
post #22 of 102
I don't think that Sonoma is going to be a big speed boost. However, having pci-e gpu capability will be a significant graphics boost for notebook gaming.

You're right, the 9200s will drop in value significantly when Sonoma based books are available.
post #23 of 102
well wait to see the price differences between the 9200 and 9300. Sonoma is going to be awsome. For gamers like myself this is a big deal. I will probably be buying one mid feburary if all goes well.

cheese
post #24 of 102
Sonoma's most powerful addition will be the PCI-Express graphics. If you don't game, then there won't be much to look forward to...maybe the azalia high def audio or the increased bus bandwidth for us DIVX movie rippers. Love your signature sonicwind, Etch-A-Sketches are badass.
post #25 of 102
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Originally Posted by |-007-|
Sonoma's most powerful addition will be the PCI-Express graphics. If you don't game, then there won't be much to look forward to...maybe the azalia high def audio or the increased bus bandwidth for us DIVX movie rippers. Love your signature sonicwind, Etch-A-Sketches are badass.
One of the things that intrigued me about Sonoma is the lower power useage that will allow vendors to make their offerings thinner and lighter because there won't be as much heat to dissipate. I'm looking forward to a 15" or 15.5" (wide) laptop under 6 lbs with all the attachments.
post #26 of 102
jjfcpa, do you have any power consumption numbers? I haven't seen the numbers, but I'd be surprised if Sonoma eats fewer watts than Dothan. I think they've added some chipset power-management in Alviso, but I wouldn't expect the power savings to be huge. Except, of course, compared to desktop chips.
post #27 of 102
Ok, so who else besides me is going to get a 9300 the day they come out? (sure I'll have to sell my car to pay for it but hey! I heard mass transit isn't *that* bad)

... allow me to elaborate... i expect to purchase one based on need (I have an aging 6yr old laptop thats about to die) and not on hype. having said that... i'm nervous about the price they'll be out the door.
post #28 of 102
I'm jealous, Ult. It should be a pretty solid system right out of the gate. Especially since Dell made all of us i9200 owners beta testers for you
post #29 of 102
I am on the waiting list for a I9300. . .

post #30 of 102
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Love your signature sonicwind, Etch-A-Sketches are badass.
I'm hoping to upgrade it to the new glossy wide screen version...if they come out with that.
post #31 of 102
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Originally Posted by dellbert
jjfcpa, do you have any power consumption numbers? I haven't seen the numbers, but I'd be surprised if Sonoma eats fewer watts than Dothan. I think they've added some chipset power-management in Alviso, but I wouldn't expect the power savings to be huge. Except, of course, compared to desktop chips.
Delbert

Here's a quote from an article on The Inquirer's website...

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The Pentium M parts are in a class of their own, and have been since launch. In fact, there is nothing else in the same league. The 533FSB Dothan parts have a TDP of 27W, and it only goes down from there. Even at this low wattage, they perform quite well. Via has comparable power figures, but not for the same level of performance. AMD has better performance but 35W is a hefty 30% more, which translates into battery life of hours less. Not cool, pun intended.

So, what does Intel have on tap? The Dothan parts at 533FSB will be launched in mid-January, just weeks from now, as we predicted some weeks ago. The Alviso chipset will bring all the goodies to market, dual channel DDR2, PCIe, and power sipping chipsets. The integrated graphics on the chipsets won't wow any gamers, but they should keep their head up in the 5.5-6.5W parts crowd.

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I guess all we can do now is to wait and see what the benchmarks show, but I think in the short time to delivery, it's worth waiting to see just how good they are.
post #32 of 102
I'd bet a fair amount of that will be lost in the new GPUs used but hopefully not.
post #33 of 102
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Originally Posted by jjfcpa
The Pentium M parts are in a class of their own, and have been since launch. In fact, there is nothing else in the same league. The 533FSB Dothan parts have a TDP of 27W, and it only goes down from there.
Thanks, jjfcpa. But IIRC, the current Dothan's max out at around 24W. So, I'm pretty sure that when the press says Sonoma will give you thinner, lighter, longer-lasting laptops with minty fresh breath, they mean in comparison with the dogs based on desktop chipsets.
post #34 of 102
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Originally Posted by dellbert
Thanks, jjfcpa. But IIRC, the current Dothan's max out at around 24W. So, I'm pretty sure that when the press says Sonoma will give you thinner, lighter, longer-lasting laptops with minty fresh breath, they mean in comparison with the dogs based on desktop chipsets.
DellBert

I hope you're wrong, because I really want a thin and light wide laptop. I've got a M60 and it's just plain too bulky and heavy. I'd much rather go for an i9300 if I'm going to put up with that much bulk and weight. If I can get a 15.4" under 6 pounds from Dell or IBM or HP, then I'd be a happy camper. You're not helping my outlook much.
post #35 of 102
I am very interested in the 9300 too. My 8100 still runs OK but its pretty slow. I plan to keep it for backoffice work. I too wonder what 9300's price will be like. Hopefully its under $2,400 sans DVD burner. I really don't want to spend $2.5K on a laptop.


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Originally Posted by Ult
Ok, so who else besides me is going to get a 9300 the day they come out? (sure I'll have to sell my honda to pay for it but hey! I heard DC's metro isn't *that* bad)

... allow me to elaborate... i expect to purchase one based on need (I have an aging 6yr old laptop thats about to die) and not on hype. having said that... i'm nervous about the price they'll be out the door.
post #36 of 102
the thing is this will be great for high end systems, but for a 700m for example, how much of a preformance increase can really be gained on a system which can do everything well except games, but that is a limit of the vid card.

So word will load .05% faster...?
post #37 of 102
Thread Starter 
In another thread on this board, someone mentioned that the new D810 will be one pound lighter! That is a significant decrease in weight and for those of us who want as light a system as possible, it will be worth the wait...
post #38 of 102
Well it looks like we may have to wait one extra day.

This says that Jan. 19th will now be the official launch.

Sonoma Launch

smack
post #39 of 102
I wish this site had RSS or something. I get tired of having to keep checking the site for updates on the sonoma... sheesh
post #40 of 102
Do you guys expect the Dell 9300 to be available ON Jan 19th? Do any of you have any experience with ordering new products from Dell? I'm trying to figure out if there will be a sort of pre-order program or something to that effect, or if they will be ready for production.
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