Originally Posted by pokecai
Then what is the point of the user upgradeable graphic card if we are not allow to swap new graphic card in ourself ???
It was never said by Sager to be 100% *user* though it turns out it is in some cases. The non 85XX... 9860s simply need to be sent in to have a part (plate) put in to ensure a long life of the system if upgrading to the ATI GPU.
Sager and Clevo are doing their best to predict the future here and provide what the hard core community wants. Providing a leading edge performance laptop that will be able to use future upgrades incl the GPU and if at all possible be performed by the actual end user. They're already way ahead a lot of other technology putting down numbers people would respect from a high end desktop. I completely understand the slight let down some had that they have to send it in for the upgrade when it's an easy plug in module. Most here are do it yourself types and feel tied up not being able to do a simple gpu upgrade. That and any down time you may have sending your gaming and work rig off. That's one of the abilities we really push for and they're trying to produce results and succeed in.
Right now the 6800 in the 9860 runs every current game at extremely high settings and resolutions with no lag or problems. I think I would know because Luke and I are probably as involved in hard core gaming as anyone on these forums (look at my sig to see the degree of dork I am). Tom, Luke and I have all put between us more hours than you can imagine gaming on these laptops. It's a very hard job, but we're hanging in there. Current 9860 owners that may need the part for the upgrade don't have a system of lower quality in any way when compared to the 85XXX.... ones. What I would suggest doing for current 9860 owners is unless you feel you need the performance bump in some areas to hold off to see whatever is available next. I'm sure the next upgrade option will be available well before the current NVIDIA 6800 versions are unable to run new games at extremely high resolutions and settings