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8790 Users, HELP! (Major Issues!)

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Well, as with the many others before me, my 8790 has decided to go downhill over the past month. Let me give you a quick recap:

1st problem: something in the machine ‘clicks’ when its idle for a long time. Whenever I start working with the machine again, it stops clicking, but once I leave it alone, it starts right back up (very weird, I think it’s the HD). This has been occurring since day one.

2nd problem: Something in the machine makes a TON of noise whenever I am using the network card. It’s a high pitched scratching sound coming from somewhere near the network port.

3rd problem: For the past 3 months, 90% of the time that I have the 8790 on with the fans powered to ‘high’, the caps lock and num lock keys start to blink in unison. I read somewhere on these forums that this was a sign of ‘overheating’ and I’ve completely cleaned out the machine multiple times with no luck of fixing the issue. The funny thing is, it happens less when I just leave the fans on normal and let them do their thing.

4th problem (and most severe): My 9700’s junk. Whenever I load ANY 3D application, within 3-4 minutes I get artifacts that will go on for about a minute or two, then stop for a minute, then start again. These get progressively worse every time until I can’t even tell what’s supposed to be on the screen anymore. This finally results in the screen completely screwing up and looking like this:


(battlefield 1942 after 7 minutes using the newest ATI drivers)

(picture taken from camera... didn't realize i could take a screenshot and actually capture what was going on)

(again camera)

(another camera shot)
Then i realized i could use printscreen to take images:


My machine didn’t do this when I first got it, and never have I ‘overclocked’ the video, as I was content with its performance out of the box.

To make sure it wasn’t just BF1942, I quit the game and was greeted with my desktop looking like this:


So i tried to shutdown:

Finally i just turned it off.

Then on the reboot, everything was fine, I opened quake 3 arena immediately, started up a game, and as you can see from the following picture, 2:33 into the game, the 9700 yet again impressed me with its own take on how q3 should be played….

(AWESOME!)

These issues have made me file for an RMA, but unless they’re going to give me an entirely new machine… I will be highly disappointed. As I said before, this machine did NOT do this until very recently, and it has gotten progressively worse over the months. After saving for an entire year (I’m a college student, on campus jobs don’t pay well) and putting every dime I made into this machine, for it to do this is highly disappointing. I feel as if I’ve been taken advantage of with my purchase along with everyone else who has faced these problems. I hope the RMA fixes these issues (say they replace the entire motherboard) but in 8 months, am I going to run into the SAME exact problem?

I don’t blame pctorque for the problems that we’ve all been having, but at the same time I don’t understand how they can sit back and not do anything while their loyal customer are pulling our hair out dealing with these machines. Laptops aren’t supposed to have a life expectancy of 8 months. Why has nothing been said about this, we cant be the only ones with the problems. There must be others who just RMA and don’t voice their concerns…

Am I the only one who feels this way?

P.S. I ordered my 8790 at the end of March, and received one of the first 8790’s (didn’t have the bios with the fan control).
post #2 of 13

RMA is in order

GR7,

I would certainly contact Sager Tech Support for a RMA. That being said, don't expect a brand spanking new machine. That would be unrealistic. They will fix the machine using new or used parts as stated in the warranty and then ship the unit back to you. I'm not sure your conclusion regarding PC Torque are "fair". Ok, I'm a bit of a PC Torque fan; however, am objective enough to know that there are some issues, they are frustrating to the owners of those units, and I as one of those users don't have any problems with my current unit. I did have problems with the first unit I purchased (about the time you bought yours) and I returned that unit for a full refund (minus the shipping costs). Majaor reason for the return of that unit was high temps and the "blinking lights" that your machine also exhibits. I took those lights to be warnings that the machine was about to "fry".

Save your date and get ready to send it in to be repaired. Insure that a complete and comprehensive list of problems is provided with the machine. Also, reference this thread so that they may review it.

Good luck,
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
I dont mean to bad mouth PCtorque. in fact they've been nothing but helpfull every time i've dealt with them. I understand that it is clevo at the root of the problem, but at the same time.. pctorque is the one who got my $2500. Hopefully sager will get back to me and my unit will be repaired... i just see all the other people in my same situation and wonder 'how does someting like this happen?". To top it off, i've seen the posts of people sending their machines back only to get them unfixed.

My biggest concern however, is that if i do get my machine fixed, in another 8 months or less, is it going to happen again? I' so happy i got the 3 year warrenty at this point.

:sigh: i guess im just fustrated
post #4 of 13
I'm not sure if my response is too late or not buuut...... got the same problem with artifacting on my 8790 ad i fixed the problem completely using the atitool's underclokcing ability. the default is 405/270.. but if you underclock it the artifacting dissapears.. (on mine atleast) i use 350/200... im not sure why mine does this... hopefully this fixes the problem..
post #5 of 13
It was told that it was a video bios problem. I contacted sager about that, and I was told to flash the main bios, the video bios and upgrade my drivers in order to get rid of the instane artifacting problem. After doing it nothing really changed. I read somewhere on the forum that the new video bios helped some 8790 users, but unfortunately I didn't experience results at all.
post #6 of 13
I'm also starting to think that there's no way of repairing the 8790 and that most of us are doomed to throw it away really soon unless we want ot stop playing games. Maybe clevo didn't realize that the current harware of the 8790 could never work under stress for more than a couple of months, so they stopped making this model.
post #7 of 13
Like G said, you most likely won't get a new machine. They probably don't even have any left to give out even if that's what they intended to do. I imagine you'll get a motherboard replacement, they'll check to see if the problems still exist and if not, send the machine back to you. I would imagine that a motherboard replacement is all you'll get (uneducated guess- don't make bets on it).

And Furion, while I also saw the underclocking utility function of ATiTool to be an option, one way I look at it is this- if the machine cannot function properly at the levels that it was designed to run at, then something's wrong. It's possible that you're extending the life of the computer, yes, but at the point where it finally *does* give out, you might be out of warranty, thus SOL. As much as a stable, running computer is on my list of things to have, also having the ability to run it as intended is important, too.

I figure I'll run mine as normal and hope that any problems crop up before the warranty expires.
post #8 of 13

Artifacting = The Devil

I seriously doubt you will get a new machine. I was having a lot of problems in other games. I updated my mobo bios, video bios, and video drivers. Warning, after updating my video bios i was unable to install any other drivers other than the official sager ati v8.04 drivers. Also power strip, ati tool, and radlinker all caused artifacting after coming out of standby. Another thing i noticed was that after updating my video bios, the gpu is actually underclocked to 410/250. you might try underclocking your gpu to these settings and seeing what happens before updating you bios and video drivers. i would definitely try these steps before rma'ing your system. you can get the two bios by email sager tech support or i can email them to you. just let me know.

like i said before, i updated all my bios, and my video driver. everything is set to default and i am having absolutely no problems. games run smoother than ever and i can play of hours on end with no artifacting.
post #9 of 13

Video?

Quote:
Originally Posted by FriedToast
one way I look at it is this- if the machine cannot function properly at the levels that it was designed to run at, then something's wrong.
FriedToast, i am no computer gooroo, but do you think sager may have actually had the gpu clocked to high to begin with. i'm asking this because the video bios that came with my system had the clock speeds set at 410/270. Everything was great at first but after a few months artifacting problems began (btw, i never overclocked my system until the last two weeks). I have updated my video bios and noticed that the clock speeds have actually dropped to 410/250. Now everything runs great at default settings. The system also plays good overclocked to 500/300. The only problems I have noticed with the new video bios update is stated in my two previous threads.

These updates fix the problem as long as you leave everything at default and use suggested drivers.
post #10 of 13
oumercury, you're saying that you haven't had any problems at all after upgrading the bioi. Did you use omegadrivers before that? Did you completely clean your computer of the previous drivers before installing the official 8.04 ones? Do you keep ATI tool on all the time?

Maybe I'm still having these problems because I didn't remove the previous drivers well enough. Is there any other way besides from using omegadriver uninstall or even formatting?
post #11 of 13
hm... i tried 420/250 and my games work fine. obviously it is the memory that cannot handle overclocking, not the core.
post #12 of 13
furion that is my guess... psicho i uninstalled the drivers thru contronl panel/add-remove programs. then installed the ati 8.04 video drivers. then update both bios. it works perfectly for me. i have no problems. when i install any overclocking program such as ATI tool or any other video driver i run into problems. so if you want to update your video bios i DO NOT recommend installing any of these programs or any other drivers that are not sager recommended.
post #13 of 13
i rma'ed my 8790 dec 20th for the artifacting problems. just got it back yesterday (jan. 11) with a new motherboard and updated drivers. everything works well so far, they also installed 3dmark and ran it a few times and left it on my computer. i had it on for about three hours last night when i noticed a pretty terrible burnt smell but luckily it was just the iron downstairs.

good luck with yours
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