Raid 101 - Page 4

Not wrong, and others here can back that up, you're the only one spouting this "insane rhetoric." So now that you have resorted to name calling I can really see where you coming from. I figured you were some 13 year old sitting behind a terminal somewhere, and now I know. (Well that and your spelling)

And as far as hard drive failure goes your right, they are more reliable these days; it's the controllers that usually perform an incorrect write operation that destroys the stripe. That’s why you can usually break the strip and run the drives as single.

I think you need a bit more time in the real world before you challenge my knowledge. noob.

For some reason Time-Pilot still hasn't realized that the article he posted showed RAID0 having a very nice performance boost, and than the article I posted shows that when you use a controller that somebody thinking about RAID would actually use.. aka a Promise card not some bottom of the line Intel.. you see even MORE of a performance increase.

He just doesn't seem to be able to read the benchmarks.

*waste of my time and other nor mail individuals*

And Imperial has an issue grasping grammer, "aka a Promise card" What is it "otherwise known as!?!" Did you possible me "e.g." I just can't follow your point sometimes....

They were the SAME, or marginally better. Certainly nothing that would ever merit placing your data in jeopardy over.

Also if you want to go with the promise solution I have an article on that as well, just about the same numbers. If you want to risk your data over .2~/3% gains then do it, however you will never see that improve your benchmark. Just plain silly, and that was the original question posted in this thread, "is it worth it." Simply put by several of us, "no."

Post your trivial benchmarks, and I'll post others to dispute it, if you want to play that hand, then I have all the time in the world.

LOL ur close very close im not 13.turn them around to a 31 and bingo your right on. And i would need more time to challange the slow kid who rides the short bus to school, but you? nah im a bit to advanced for you to mess with.

and you say" several of us" dam dude you got multiple personalitys? ever one here clearly says RAID 0 is worth it unless you only want a pc for every day email checking and websurfing. but point is why buy a AW if you arent after every little boost you can get. now i think your the 13 year old lol

If you're 31 and spell as you do, for shame. It’s terribly difficult to take anyone such as yourself seriously with your diction, spelling and grammar. It's painfully obvious from list last reply who in fact rides the "short bus."

I'm sticking with 13, the average 31 year old would never use "ur" and "13." nice spacing and random periods. If you want people to trust your opinions and information you need to learn to convey it in a manner not requiring translation to simple English.

If you’re not 13, then your most definitely conduct yourself as such.

"Advanced" is not a word I would use to describe your posting. It's all of us who are now a bit "dumber" for having tried to decipher your post. You should apologize publicly or it's content, or lack there of. Please next time bring something comprehensible to the conversation, so we may all benefit from it at some level, likely a "small" level to be sure.

Nothing can satiate Time's need for good grammar.

It is an insatiable lust to be sure. A well written paragraph is like poetry to me, a poorly written paragraph or sentences either supplies humor or disgust in our education system.

Thanks for noticing, it’s often how you can sort the internet BS from some of the more credible replies.

LMAO if you judge people by there grammer you would miss out on some of the nicest people to be around. i dont care about spelling or grammer in 31 years i never cared about it and im not gonna start to please some noob who thinks grammer has 1 iota of somthing to do with how credible some one is . That is the gheyest thing you have said yet. but it made my luagh real hard. lol i copied and printed out that statement and am posting on the bullitin board at work so every one can get a luagh at how retarded you sound lol. LMAO spelling and grammer determin how credible you are LMAO thats rich.. Actually thats somthing a noob 13 year old would say so maybe your 13 a true 31 year old like myself would never judge a person on grammer LMAO keep it up your remarks get me and the guys at work hours of good luaghs LOL thread CLOSED for me haha ur ignorance and feeling that ur better then some one becuase they dont care to use you'r instead of ur . is so childish i see no point in hearing any more of your pointless babble lmao thanks for the hours of good luaghs at you though. bye bye.
PS just so you know we proved you wrong every step of the way even with my bad grammer LMAO. See ya around noob

Yes well, thanks for further proving my point. Perchance do you own a mobile home? And if so to which address can I send you a complimentary edition of “hooked on phonics."

Yikes, the american education system is in far worse shape than I originally imagined.

can't this be resolved by a simple read/write speed test on a 7700 with raid and one without?

Yes, it would certinaly answer the original question, any takers?

I counted 3 lols and 6 lmaos in that one post. You think someone would take the time to make sure they spelled everything correctly when posting to a forum such as this one. Somehow I just can't believe that man is 31 years of age. I am 16 and even I don't make such insane sentences. I guess justin thinks lmao is a replacement for a period.

Nice way to turn a good discussion of RAID into a flame war Time and JUSTIN, are you sure you're not both 13?

Sheesh...

Not I, remember who cast the first stone, was it not something to the effect of an insinuation of bestiality as I recall?

At any rate it's all in good fun if you don't let that sort of thing bother you, in fact I can't think of anything in this world that truly offends or bothers me. I found more comedic value in the thread than anything else. Especially the random "noobs" and other idiocies that ran rampant throughout.

So
RAID 0 better or not

Just get the Raid 0 and don't look back.

Astu22 and I vote no, J1stin says yes. We need a test on the 7700, both configs, with something like Sandrasoft. Any takers out there?

I wish I would have come across this thread earlier. I don't know if any of you all subscribe to MaximumPC, but there was an interesting article in the October 2004 issue concerning RAID 0 setups and their associated real-world performance benefits. Below are selected excerpts from p.72 (italics have been added by me for emphasis):

"Lately, however, two well-known hardware sites (Anandtech.com and Storagereview.com) have come down hard on RAID 0's desktop performance. This summer, both sites posted stories claiming that, for single-user workloads and gaming, these gains in data transfer rates are either nonexistent or so minimal as to not be worth the extra cost and risk levied by RAID 0. Obviously, this contention flies in the face of conventional PC-enthusiast orthodoxy...creating a firestorm of discussion within the PC hardware community." <-- Gee, you think?

"Our findings: RAID 0 provides porformance benefits over a single drive, but primarily in the realm of sequential transfers such as video editing or other apps that require more bandwidth...But what about the loading of huge maps in 3D games?"

"Much to our surprise, we found minimal performance benefits from our RAID array. And, in some cases, we even saw a slight decrease in performance!"

"DARE TO COMPARE: Game Level Load Times (in seconds)
Doom 3: RAID Array - 38 | Single Drive - 35
Far Cry: RAID Array - 21 | Single Drive - 21
Battlefield 1942: RAID Array - 22 | Single Drive - 22"

I could key in more from that article, but I think that pretty much hits the high points. So in conclusion, my personal opinion would be that sinking the extra cash into a RAID 0 setup for your laptop would be a bit of a waste unless you plan on doing a lot of DV editing, or the like. Otherwise, you're probably not going to get your money's worth out of it.

Sure, there's always the "seat-of-your-pants" thrill of running a RAID array, but I hardly think that subjective sensation is worth the high price tag. I, too, agree though that in order to settle the debate once and for all we really ought to see some benchmarks from an AW lappy. But for what it's worth, I'm going to side with Astu22 & Time-Pilot on this one.

bottom line, dont get RAID 0 unless you are a noob. and you dont want to be a noob now do you?

of course not.