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post #181 of 360
1/29/05 at 2:14am
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Originally Posted by DDDa
if you're stucked with this integrated video card, then this Z71 is terrible. Just terrible.

CoffeeShark, if it's an integrated solution, then I would believe it's directed to people who wants portability. But, as we can see, the battery life (~3 hours, and you know that those are theoretical numbers) doesn't tell us that. So, where/what is the market for this notebook? I don't believe I'm wrong by thinking that... right?
Asus is just extremely stupid.......
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post #182 of 360
1/29/05 at 2:23am
The W3N looks like a great machine. If you want portability and not gaming, then it has everything you could want.
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post #183 of 360
1/29/05 at 2:42am
Not sure if this has been mentioned but the final config for the W3N is up in the air.

It is available in Asia right now, but with the 855 chipset. Asus plans to release it in the US with the 915 chipset in March, but is still undecided as to whether to use dedicated or shared graphics for the US release.

With dedicated graphics expect it to be in the 2500-3000 range and there is a good change it will be sold like the W1N, that is, as a complete system w/ the global warranty.

EDIT: Also, to all of those bashing Asus' upcoming releases, many, besides the W3N, have not been finalized spec-wise for US release and are in test releases in Asia to see their marketability and viability before US release.
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post #184 of 360
1/29/05 at 3:03am
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Originally Posted by DDDa
if you're stucked with this integrated video card, then this Z71 is terrible. Just terrible.

CoffeeShark, if it's an integrated solution, then I would believe it's directed to people who wants portability. But, as we can see, the battery life (~3 hours, and you know that those are theoretical numbers) doesn't tell us that. So, where/what is the market for this notebook? I don't believe I'm wrong by thinking that... right?
The Z71A is marketed as a lower-cost but modern solution for business and student. The graphics is low to keep the price down, while still allowing for upgrading later (cpu) and a long life.

It's not just Graphics vs Battery, there are a lot of other factors.
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post #185 of 360
1/29/05 at 4:56am
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http://www.rjtech.com/z71a.htm

Processor & Cache Memory Intel Pentium M Processor with 2MB on-die L2 cache

Speeds at 1.67G~2.5G (Dothan), 400 & 533MHz FSB; 2.5G~3G(Yonah)

Operating System MicrosoftR WindowsR XP Professional / Home Edition
Chipset Intel Alviso 915 GM & ICH6-M
Main Memory DDR 333 SDRAM , 2x SO-DIMM socket expandable to 2GB
Display 15.4" WXGA
Video Graphics & Memory Embedded Alviso-915 GM
Hard Drive 2.5" 9.5mm IDE HDD with Ultra DMA 100 supported, capacity of 30/40/60/80/100 GB
Optical Drive DVD-ROM
CD-R/RW:24X/24X, CD-ROM: 24X, DVD-ROM 8X
COMBO
DVD-R/RW::2X/1X, CD-R/RW:16X/10X,
CD-ROM: 24X, DVD-ROM:8X
DVD-Dual
DVD-R/RW: 4X/2X, DVD+R/RW: 4X/2.4X, CD-R/RW: 16X/10X, DVD-ROM:8X, CD-ROM: 24X
Fax/Modem/ LAN / WLAN AC 97 s/w MODEM and 10/100 Base T PCI LAN on board
Optional Mini-PCI 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN
Interface and Card Reader Built-in card reader: SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO
One VGA port/Mini D-sub 15-pin for external display
5 USB 2.0 ports
Two Audio jacks : Head phone or SPDIF, Mic-in
One RJ-11 for modem
One RJ-45 for LAN
One 1394 B Type jack
S-Video composite TV output
one PCMCIA 2.1 supports one Type II
Audio Built-in AC’97 compliant audio chip, with 3D effect & full duplex

Built-in stereo speakers and microphone.

Audio-DJ/DVD DJ capable

Battery Pack & Life n Primary: Li-Ion 4 cells, 14.8V, 4400mAh, 65W battery pack;

n Secondary battery available(using modular bay)

n Battery life 3 hrs(6.5-10hr with 2nd battery)

n Charging time, 2.5 hrs Quick charge 90% (Power off) / 4hrs (Power on)


Dimension & Weight 11.6"x9"x1.12", 6.5lbs
Supplied Accessories Carrying bag
Warranty 1 year limited warranty, upgradable to 3 years
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post #186 of 360
1/29/05 at 3:25pm
Thread Starter 
ATI X700 Benchmarks

http://notebookforums.com/showthread...812#post652812
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post #187 of 360
1/29/05 at 3:33pm
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Inventec

http://www.inventec.com/pages/produc...enu1=3&menu2=1

W15
• Commercial/Consumer shared multimedia Sonoma platform
• 2-spindle full functional design
• Mainstream 15.4” wide screen optimized
- 356 x 254 x 28~35 mm (14.0 x 10.0 x 1.1~1.4 inch)
- 2.7 Kg (6.1 Lbs)
• Optimized for lowest cost design
• Multi-Media Feature Sets
- Built-in microphone
- S/PDIF audio Interface (optional)
- Built-in rotateable camera with snapshot button (optional)
- CIR remote controls (media playback and presentation purposes)
- Embedded key sets for media playback and system features
• Modular PCBA for BTO (feature sets)
• Modular graphics card (MXM)
• Long Battery Life (> 4.5 hours with 6 cell battery)
• Optional design for K8/RS480/SB400 system board with unique bottom case
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post #188 of 360
1/29/05 at 3:37pm
Thread Starter 



http://www.pcg.fic.com.tw/marketing/

Built with Intel® certified platform of Pentium® M (Dothan) processor, Alviso graphics engine and Wireless LAN (IEEE 802.11 a/b/g), the PS1 is designed as a multimedia notebook that delivers high tech mighty performance with power saving technology for time enduring multimedia presentation.

Intel® Pentium® M processor 725/730/735/740/745/750/755/760/765/770+ (FSB 400/533MHz)
Dothan 90nm, with Enhanced Intel® SpeedStep® Technology
Intel® Celeron® M processor 340/350/360/370+
ALVISO 915GM / ICH6-M
Intel Pro/Wireless Network Connection IEEE 802.11a/b/g or IEEE 802.11b/g
Display: 15”(XGA or SXGA+) TFT LCD display
Dimension: 330(W) x 278(D) x 27~35(H) mm
Weight: 2.7 kg

Level 2 Cache 2MB
Chipsets Alviso 915GM / ICH6-M
Display Controller Embedded in Alviso (915GM)
Support LCD, CRT, TV Display, or LCD/CRT Dual Display

LCD Displays 15”TFT 1024 x 768 Resolution (XGA)
15”TFT 1400 x 1050 Resolution (SXGA+)

External CRT Video 60 - 85 Hz Refresh Rate:
640 x 480, up to 32bit Colors, 800 x 600, up to 32bit Colors
1024 x 768, up to 32bit Colors, 1152 x 768, up to 32bit Colors
1280 x 1024, up to 32bit Colors, 1400 x 1050, up to 32bit Colors
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post #189 of 360
1/29/05 at 3:43pm
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http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/D700T.asp

Clevo D700T Specification

CPU
．Intel® Pentium 4 Processor 520/530/540/550/560/570

(2.80~3.80GHz, 90nm, FSB800, 1MB L2 cache, LGA775)

Core Logic ．Intel® 915P+ICH6


Display ．15.0" SXGA (1400x1050) TFT

．15.0" UXGA (1600x1200) TFT


ATi X800 (M28) High performance

graphic chip

．256MB DDR III Video RAM on board

．128 bit graphic engine

．PCI-Express x16

．Fully DirectX® 9.0 support

．HDTV output support

- OR -

nVIDIA® GeForce GO 6800 High performance graphic chip

．256MB DDR III Video RAM on board

．256 bit graphic engine

．PCI-Express x16

．Fully DirectX® 9.0 support

．HDTV output support
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post #190 of 360
1/29/05 at 3:46pm
That Inventec looks very deformed like a 18:10 scren ratio lol.

Wonder if its the pic.
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post #191 of 360
1/29/05 at 3:52pm
Thread Starter 
http://www.amaxit.com/amaxcorp/ProdD...5&dept_id=9461



AMAX Elite AC1549G 15.4" WXGA Centrino™ Notebook System

15.4” WXGA (1280X800) TFT screen
Intel® Pentium® M Processor with 2MB on-die cache
Speeds at 1.67Ghz-2.50Ghz at 533Mhz FSB
Mobile Intel® 915 GM Express chipset (Alviso)
Built-in 4-in-1 card reader: SD/MMC/MS/MS Pro
Supports modular hot swap function and 2nd HDD/2nd battery
Optional internal 802.11a/b/g wireless LAN
8 cell LI-ION battery with up to 6.5 hrs of battery life
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post #192 of 360
1/29/05 at 4:42pm
Thanks for all the links smilepak!
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post #193 of 360
1/29/05 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
Thanks for all the links smilepak!
smilepak! YOU ARE MY HERO !!!
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post #194 of 360
1/29/05 at 5:08pm
Hopefully there'll be a flood of x700 powered laptops when I plan to buy in a few months. From the looks of it though, the Acer 8100 will just be getting back in stock and other models will still be in the pre-release stage.

Ah well, the Acer is a mighty fine laptop from the sounds of things. Guess my expectations were too high for this launch.
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post #195 of 360
1/29/05 at 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by petri
Hopefully there'll be a flood of x700 powered laptops when I plan to buy in a few months. From the looks of it though, the Acer 8100 will just be getting back in stock and other models will still be in the pre-release stage.

Ah well, the Acer is a mighty fine laptop from the sounds of things. Guess my expectations were too high for this launch.

I cant wait for the X700 lappys, of course I'd defintly go for the X600 lappys if they were near my weight requirements!
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post #196 of 360
1/29/05 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
I cant wait for the X700 lappys, of course I'd defintly go for the X600 lappys if they were near my weight requirements!
i cant wait anymore either........i want x800
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post #197 of 360
1/29/05 at 6:45pm

Let me try to explain better...

I really do understand your point, CoffeeShark, and I know (at least I hope ) that it's not only "performance vs. battery", just because this notebook is not marketed for any of those "segments". I didn't try to say that Asus is "stupid" or anything like that, just because one of the notebooks that I really admire is the M6. However, I think I was too fast on the previous post. I will try to explain better...

I went to rjtech and configured it with 1.7dothan/1gb-generic/60gb-5400/a-b-g-wlan for $1314 (I put a P-M taking a look at the price, instead of a P4, even if rjtech only allows P4 or Celerons at the page, what seems buggy. Sometimes it shows Z81, but the price is right and the same of the announced Z71, so this detail is not a problem).

$1314 for a fairly common configuration seems expensive to a business notebook like that. The lack of a medium (or even good) graphic card option takes out the occasional gamer buyer from the scene. Then, there are only businessmen and _typical_ students, people that prefers, generally, smaller notebooks (< 15", let alone 15.4"). And, in the last possibility, this notebook could have been a budget one (no predefined kind of person), so people with no options (money) would buy it regardless of its size/weight/performance/battery-time. But, once again, I don't think it's the case (see the configuration - and the price! - I mentioned above). Finally, the upgradeable CPU is not a huge advantage at all, in my opinion, because the typical buyers of it won't need this feature, since for what they do, a P3@1Ghz is the heaven...
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post #198 of 360
1/29/05 at 6:58pm
This is the real link for the customization of the Z71A

http://www.rjtech.com/miva/merchant....ct_Code=A-Z71A
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post #199 of 360
1/29/05 at 7:06pm
Thanks a lot, Xchus, but that is even worse:

Z71 with 1.7dothan/2x512mb-generic/60gb-5400/a-b-g-wlan:

$1364
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post #200 of 360
1/29/05 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by DDDa
I really do understand your point, CoffeeShark, and I know (at least I hope ) that it's not only "performance vs. battery", just because this notebook is not marketed for any of those "segments". I didn't try to say that Asus is "stupid" or anything like that, just because one of the notebooks that I really admire is the M6. However, I think I was too fast on the previous post. I will try to explain better...

I went to rjtech and configured it with 1.7dothan/1gb-generic/60gb-5400/a-b-g-wlan for $1314 (I put a P-M taking a look at the price, instead of a P4, even if rjtech only allows P4 or Celerons at the page, what seems buggy. Sometimes it shows Z81, but the price is right and the same of the announced Z71, so this detail is not a problem).

$1314 for a fairly common configuration seems expensive to a business notebook like that. The lack of a medium (or even good) graphic card option takes out the occasional gamer buyer from the scene. Then, there are only businessmen and _typical_ students, people that prefers, generally, smaller notebooks (< 15", let alone 15.4"). And, in the last possibility, this notebook could have been a budget one (no predefined kind of person), so people with no options (money) would buy it regardless of its size/weight/performance/battery-time. But, once again, I don't think it's the case (see the configuration - and the price! - I mentioned above). Finally, the upgradeable CPU is not a huge advantage at all, in my opinion, because the typical buyers of it won't need this feature, since for what they do, a P3@1Ghz is the heaven...
I agree with you for the most part - but the fact is that it is a new solution, at a decent price and weight. I think, as Sonoma's become more available, this will become the lower cost solution. Since it is brand new, it's naturally a higher price right now.
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