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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
My company just bought me a new Gateway M675X laptop.

Pentium 4 3.0 GHz
512 Meg Ram
64 Meg ATi Mobility 9700 graphics card
...

Anyway, the bad thing is they have something installed/setup on it in windows that limits me in using the internet. When I take it home, I can't get it to use my network. I have to use their VPN, which logs where I go and blocks certain sites and services.

My solution is to dual boot it with Linux so I can configure the linux distro any way I want it. Here are a few things I want it to do.

1. I want it to support the built in Wifi.
2. I want to have the boot loader on a CD so they don't see the dual boot option.
3. I would like the graphics card to be supported.

What are the best distros to start with? I've always wanted to learn Linux, and this will force me to do it. I use to love DOS back in the day and hated the whole windows thing. So I'll probably enjoy Linux much better, I just want to start off on the right step.

Thanks guys!!

By the way, I do have their administrative password for the computer which they don't know. I still can't figure out how they've locked me out from using my network...
post #2 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travesty
My company just bought me a new Gateway M675X laptop.

Pentium 4 3.0 GHz
512 Meg Ram
64 Meg ATi Mobility 9700 graphics card
...

Anyway, the bad thing is they have something installed/setup on it in windows that limits me in using the internet. When I take it home, I can't get it to use my network. I have to use their VPN, which logs where I go and blocks certain sites and services.

My solution is to dual boot it with Linux so I can configure the linux distro any way I want it. Here are a few things I want it to do.

1. I want it to support the built in Wifi.
2. I want to have the boot loader on a CD so they don't see the dual boot option.
3. I would like the graphics card to be supported.

What are the best distros to start with? I've always wanted to learn Linux, and this will force me to do it. I use to love DOS back in the day and hated the whole windows thing. So I'll probably enjoy Linux much better, I just want to start off on the right step.

Thanks guys!!

By the way, I do have their administrative password for the computer which they don't know. I still can't figure out how they've locked me out from using my network...


1. FOr wifi you will need "ndiswrapper" It is very easy to install..

You need the windows driver for your wlan card.
unzip windowsdriver.exe
cd /windowsdriver
ndiswrapper -i filename.inf
modprobe ndiswrapper
and to make it load after every boot echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules-2.6.10 or whatever kernel version you have.


2. http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

3.Depending on what disto you decide to use... I know now to set it up on a Debian based system only Whatever you decide to use don't follow ATI's instructions.

www.rage3d.com

www.distrowatch.com


I hear SuSe is very easy....


Welcome to Linux
post #3 of 16
you could always just install windows xp on a second partition, but linux is good.
post #4 of 16
i use suse (not on a laptop however) and it's pretty good for a beginner, which i am. really simple to use and to install stuff with yast. it'll be really hard to use get drivers for yur videa card though because ati doesn't make good drivers for windows, and they're even worse for linux.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by solidsnake
you could always just install windows xp on a second partition, but linux is good.
I don't own a copy of XP and I don't want to get caught putting pirated software on a company computer. If I get caught with linux dual booted, at least it will be legal.

They never told me I couldn't dual boot it though...but I know they don't really want me using it for personal stuff. I can't let this nice piece of hardware go to waste. I don't see a reason why I shouldn't be able to use it for personal things when I'm not at work...
post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 
Okay, So I found another forum talking about this laptop and distros. They were having luck with Suse, but it wasn't very smooth. From what they were saying Red Hat 9.1 went in much smoother. If it's easier I may start with that. Is there anything bad about Red Hat?
post #7 of 16
i also read that Ubuntu is very easy to work with.

Generally speakin you should avoid any rpm distros like redhat etc..

if i were you i would try Ubuntu first. They have a liveCD and an install CD. Take both. Use the liveCD first to see if you like it or not then if you want install it on your hard drive.
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DimGR
i also read that Ubuntu is very easy to work with.

Generally speakin you should avoid any rpm distros like redhat etc..

if i were you i would try Ubuntu first. They have a liveCD and an install CD. Take both. Use the liveCD first to see if you like it or not then if you want install it on your hard drive.
Excuse my ignorance...RPM??
post #9 of 16
RPM is a package management format (how programs are distributed to the users, like .exe or .zip files on Windows). SuSE, Redhat, Mandrake use RPMs. Debian uses DEBs. Others use other stuff. Honestly, for you, it makes absolutely no difference. With new utilities like apt4rpm, ..., the problems with dependency hell are almost gone. And, there is no intrinsic advantage of using a distro based on DEBs vs RPMs.

So, I would recommend either SuSE or Mandrake, because I just don't like Redhat. Ubuntu, I've heard, is good but I have no personal experience with it. If you feel masochistic, please go straight to Gentoo .

EDIT: I think something here needs some more explanation. If you are familiar w/Windows, you should have already encountered dependency hell. It happens when different apps want different versions of a library, they all overwrite each other versions, and almost nothing works correctly. The reason RPMs are considered so "bad" is that there used to be absolutely no utilities to automatically/easily solve library problems and conflicts. Debian got rid of this problem by using a package management software called "apt". Now, though, there is such software available for all packaging formats. So, you don't really have to worry about it. Also, even if you do end up having some problem, there is tons of help available online for any distro you may choose to go with.

Hope I didn't confuse you too much,

zakaluka2.
post #10 of 16
I've been researching Linux on my Toshiba as well and over at linuxforums.org many people say Mandrake and RedHat are the best for laptops. Especially, Mandrake 10.n and Redhat FC3. I'v already downloaded the FC3 iso and will hopefully get around to burning the CD tonight or this weekend and trying to install. I'll try to remember to let you guys know how it's going.
post #11 of 16
you can try knoppix distribution which you can run from CD without installing anything on HDD. I didn't played with it much but i guess it will support wifi and your video card.
post #12 of 16
Try YOPER LINUX, it is decent to use and it is fast. But it is hard to remove the boot loader after you remove it, and also it is very easy to config. To make WLAN drivers work you can do the procedure someone mentioned above.
Good luck.
KNOPPIX is the best choice for you anyway.
www.yoper.com
post #13 of 16
Or better yet, get your own laptop and avoid getting fired when they find out what you are doing (and they will, sofware like PowerCensus will pick up your dual boot arrangement).
post #14 of 16
I'd have to 2nd Ubuntu. The new Hoary built on the 2.6.10 kernel is amazing. using it right now. After installing it earlier this week, I am yet to reboot into WinXP Pro SP2. I love it.

1) I have a Atheros built in wifi card, and did try ndiswrapper before, but the install took forever, ubuntu recognized it automaticaly (just pick a network you want to connect to from a drop-down box, and click "connect", few secs later, you're online!)

2) no clue

3) there are available packages you can get through apt-get (synaptic) but ATI is very hard to get support for (esp on a free distro, some commercial distros come with prebuilt ati drivers). you'll have to change a lot of stuff, as well as have to give up xorg for xfree86 (which doesn't work with my screen for some reason) to have tha ati drivers working
post #15 of 16
FYI, the latest batch of ATI drivers is actually compatible with Xorg 6.8.
post #16 of 16
If you really don't want to leave any trace of linux on the computer, just use knopppix like makumba said. Since it runs off of a CD, it will not change anything on the computer. When your done with it, pop out the CD and no one will know
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