Probably when socket 939 notebooks hits the market. This year accoarding to a leaked(?) AMDs mobile roadmap. When they do, why settle for the Athlon 64 3800+? Why not just put the Athlon 64 4000+ in there or maybe the upcoming Athlon 64 4200+? Or a dual core AMD 64 CPU, wich will be released mid 2005 on the official roadmap.