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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
We need to get a notebook that my hubs will take to work with him, and will spend much of the day in a vehicle. The notebook will be used for Word, Spreadsheets, Email and other basic internet use.
Ques 1. Can he power the laptop using the power plug in the car? Is that a safe and acceptable way to run one? It would sure save on battery use.
I figure we could also buy a less expensive model (ie Toshiba A70 $1200) that still has the 15in screen, 512 mem, and not have to fork out for a Pentium-M or Centrino type processor.

Ques 2. I can't decide whether to get a notebook from a store (ie a Toshiba from Futureshop) or to go with the local computer maker (mdg.ca).
It would cost a few hundred more to go with mdg (because it is a better system) but (if needed) we would have the repair center right at hand.
I was told most notebook mfgs have about a 20% failure rate. Any helpful comment on this would be appreciated.
post #2 of 16
Futureshop has great return/exchange policies... but the notebooks sold there are only mainstream and so you don't have much flexibility.
Smaller, local computer stores are good... they can pretty much do whatever you want. Most often, you can find nice, cheap Centrino notebooks from these stores.. and in my opinion, that'd be your best bet.

Now, as for running the notebook from your car... I'm not entirely sure if that's possible. If you can find a notebook that has a car AC/DC adapter ... then you're good to go. Otherise, I wouldn't really see any other way.

You also have the option of buying spare batteries...
post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks AuroraS
I really like the A70, and CompuSmart has a great sale, as well as a good price at Future Shop. So as to flexibility, the A70 will do the trick for our basic needs I think.
I still have to find someone who runs their laptop off the car. I assumed Laptops can be plugged in, and saw one site (eurocom) where you can buy an AC/DC inverter to run it off your car, and assumed I could do this with any other laptop as well.
Tripp Lite inverters as you can see on this site, notebooks are listed (way down) as being able to use their inverters.

In the last 1/2 hour I have read a huge number of negative views of the local computer store, so I will have to look further into that before I buy from them.
post #4 of 16
Any old power inverter will run a laptop, in my experience, as long as it's not a low-wattage inverter and one of those P4 PowerSuckerPro machines with a power brick that weighs as much as a brick.

I run mine in my car all the time.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks Entropius - thats good to hear.
post #6 of 16
PCTorque sells direct car adaptors for most of their Sager notebooks. See here. I bought a DC-AC converter from them for my 8887 when new, but I've rarely used it.
post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 
A direct car adaptor would be nicer fer shur. But I would be happy with an inverter. Both Dell and CompuSmart, both accessible to me, sell inverters for the computers, so it seems that will be the least of my worries.

Now I just need to figure out which basic, solid laptop to buy.
I'm starting to lean away from Toshiba toward Dell ....its a woman's perogative to change her mind...
post #8 of 16
toshiba's are a lot better all around than dell's. I have had nothing but bad luck with dells especially the hd's they use.
post #9 of 16
I bought a basic power adapter for the car for a recent vacation trip, played movies on the laptop the whole time, no problems. 30 bucks at your local S-Mart.

Shop smart, shop S-Mart.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
My concern now with the Toshiba, is another thread here that address a freeze-up problem that the A70 and A75 have, probably due to static shocks.
It seems to happen frequently enough to concern me.
I have asked around with my friends, and 4 out of 5 own Dell that they are happy with.
post #11 of 16

This will work just fine...

Hi KIKO, I have an H.P. Pavilion ze5580us Laptop which is rated for 90 watts of power consumption. (not exactly a trivial amount). I frequently use it in the car for searching for private wireless networks on the road, Viewing DVD movies rented at Blockbuster, Listening to my CD. collection (from my Hard Drive using Windows Media Player 10), and for other more normal general purpose computing tasks.

Do this: Go to your local RADIO SHACK store and buy their "140 Watt Plug-In Power Inverter" (Radio Shack part number 22-148). This gadget plugs into the Cigarette Lighter of your car and converts the car's 12 volts electrical power to standard 120 volts, 60 Hertz household electrical power. It has a single 3 prong electrical outlet and can power any product that draws up to 140 watts continously.

I use mine with an Extension Cord (not recommended) and power my laptop through it's AC Power adapter and an H.P. PSC-2170 Multifunction Printer/Scanner/Copier with excellent results so far. It's been working flawlessly for the past 8 months.

PS. : The Inverter includes a small built-in fan for cooling. Also, i dont recommend using the Inverter for more than 3-4 hours with with the car's engine NOT RUNNING. as you could drain tha car's battery. You wont encounter any additional problems with this setup.....

ENJOY!!!.....
post #12 of 16
I use an APC 350W inverter purchased for $60 at compussr. You only get 150W (+/-) from a cigarette lighter, but I also go camping/off-roading so it could come in handy some day.

Here's a link to a thread on this same subject, lots of useful tech info (and warnings):
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=353909

Worth noting here is that if you have a gaming laptop, you're probably not going to be able to get enough juice from a standard cigarette lighter. Most have to direct connect to the vehicle's battery (even if the laptop battery is fully charged, still blows the cigarette lighter fuse ).

[btw -- I'm "Pinky" on OCF... old username, I use this one now when I register on forums ]
post #13 of 16
Stoopid: I have a "gaming laptop": eMachines M6811, Athlon 64 3400+, Radeon 9600, 15.4" screen. It runs just fine off of a cigarette lighter -- the power supply is only rated for 90 W, so even with the power brick's max spec (which has a safety margin of its own -- the lappy doesn't pull that much. acpi -V says ~60W) it's nowhere near, even considering power conversion inefficiencies.

If you're really worried, you can underclock the processor to save power using ClockGen or similar. Most games aren't CPU limited.

The only thing you'd have to worry about is if you have a Pentium 4 laptop. If you have one of those, the best thing to do is to donate it to a shelter for the homeless as a space heater and get a new laptop.

caveman: Most inverters have an auto-shutoff that will turn the inverter off if the battery voltage drops to a certain level to prevent you from draining your car battery far enough that the car won't start. Mine is something like: alarm at 10.6 V, shutoff at 10 V.
post #14 of 16
Stoopid: I have a "gaming laptop": eMachines M6811, Athlon 64 3400+, Radeon 9600, 15.4" screen. It runs just fine off of a cigarette lighter -- the power supply is only rated for 90 W, so even with the power brick's max spec (which has a safety margin of its own -- the lappy doesn't pull that much. acpi -V says ~60W) it's nowhere near, even considering power conversion inefficiencies.

If you're really worried, you can underclock the processor to save power using ClockGen or similar. Most games aren't CPU limited.

The only thing you'd have to worry about is if you have a Pentium 4 laptop. If you have one of those, the best thing to do is to donate it to a shelter for the homeless as a space heater and get a new laptop.

caveman: Most inverters have an auto-shutoff that will turn the inverter off if the battery voltage drops to a certain level to prevent you from draining your car battery far enough that the car won't start. Mine is something like: alarm at 10.6 V, shutoff at 10 V.
post #15 of 16
Canada right? You can get an inverter at Canadian Tire that should suit your needs. They have a whole range of various wattage. But I would still stick to a centrino laptop or a mobile athlon to keep power consumption down.
post #16 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Entropius
Stoopid: I have a "gaming laptop": eMachines M6811...
Yes, there are some that will run fine (yours is under the 150W threshold) -- but many gaming/desktop replacement notebooks run those P4s you fondly referred to. THOSE are the ones people seem to be having issues with (maybe because the cpu along needs 90W?? lol).

There's also the matter with some vehicles only allowing 10 amps (stock) on the cigarette lighter.
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