Since i seem to be the only one who has to fight the good fight and back AW, im going to post all the conversations I have with people who HATE AW for no good reason. The reason im pasting them here is because you have to subscribe to get in the forums and read them. Here is some of the latest
im pexeterblue btw)
ZeroZabercannon: Who has an Alienware? If some one has a bot do they actually run good?
z3r0: They run over priced and hot.
PExeterBlue: lol, oh please zero. Go look around on these boards for some debates about AW. These guys (^^^) hate AW for no good reason so youre only going to get grief about that company. I own 3, all three run great. You'll probably get people replying to this thread who have never even seen an AW let alone owned one who just plain out hate. My advice, ask about it somewhere else.
heiromancerdrackus : Um, I don't see how you can refute statistical FACT, Blue.
Heen05: Sure they are expensive, and maybe certain ones are hot...but its all relative to the person. If you have enough money and would rather buy a prebuilt PC, then by all means, go for Alienware, they are great systems....
PExeterBlue: Thats what i dont get, what's the fact?? You guys have yet to give any facts. Sure, they're a couple hundred more than building, AND? So what, Its worth it. Bottom line:
If you want a Porsche, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, or BMW go with the AW, but if you want to always be tinkering with it, go with the Honda, Nissan, or Hyundai(building your own). Because thats what its like, you buy a import car and keep tinkering with it until you get a riced out car with flashing neon lights all over it, which is what happens with homemade computers. AW, Voodoo, Falcon-NW = No tinkering, they're "factory tuned".
Im starting to think that the people here who hate AW think that when you buy an AW all that you get is just parts in a case like when you build one, and that its not worth the money. But there are so many extras. They tinker with the Bios for you, use some of the best components (BFG cards), and build a Quality computer with excellent wiring. The little performance options that they do make it worth while, and most of the extra cost is for their labor.
Poor people do it themselves, Non-poor people have others do it for them. I only make 12,000 a year, but you guys act like everone here is dirt poor and cant afford to spend any extra money. The way you guys talk, I feel like youre giving advice to 15 year olds with no jobs, and youre telling them everything they can do to save money, even if it means coming out with a less than perfect product. (I know im going to get FLAMED GOOD for that last bit, but it frustrates so much when you come in these threads to put down something you've never even seen. And its not like you would flame Voodoo, HP, or even Dell(which are more expensive than AW BTW), its like you only hate AW. They make a quality computer that should be considered in the PC buying process. And you monkeys arent helping. I came || close to building a PC, but in the end, im glad i didnt spend the time on it, I know I would just have problems with it. Now, im not going to stoop to youre level and flame building PCs blindly like you do AW, so, for people wanting a new PC, research. Do LOTS of research, and when you do, dont ask questions on a board that is 99% biased.
Ominous1: You are an idiot.
AW and NW = BMW? HAhahahaha
No.
Home built PCs use the same parts. So its not a Honda vs a BMW.
Honda = cheap parts.
Homebuilt = cheap pats? no.
Learn what you are talking about.
PExeterBlue: You still havent given any facts or good reasons why not to buy an AW. And the car thing was a good analogy. When you get an expensive car, it comes with a bigger engine, and a luxury interior. With a Honda, you have to work on it to get luxury interior, etc...Thats why AW's are most expensive. They do lots of performance tweaks, and in some cases OC your video card and CPU. The proof I have of you hating AW for no reason is simply this:
Dells are more money,pretty much non-upgradable, and non-overclockable. With an AW, you get a great bios so you can tweak whatever you want, you can upgrade whatever you want. Yet, you would tell someone who wants to buy a dell that they are absolute crap, would you? Nope. I would think you are bitter because you cant afford high-end prebuilts, but i dont make much money, and I can, so that cant be it.
Ominous1: YOU CAN GET MORE FOR LESS BY BUILDING IT YOUR SELF.
PExeterBlue: Like I said before, im not just getting a gfx card, mobo, ram, and HD in a box. As with probably Voodoo and other companies like them, AW gives you much more. I can see your point of view though, because its hard to see exactly what it is you get until you buy one. Im not sure why I decided to buy one 3 years ago, but im glad i did, because they've had a loyal customer ever since.
Ominous1: so what do you get.
zcookman: I hear you Blue.
Awhile back I posted how I put together a FX-55 rig with all top stuff on AW and the price shipped came out to more than a grand less then Dell, ABS and a couple others. The big surprise was that it ended up only being a couple hundred more than my shopping cart on Newegg with close to the same parts. Granted, AW had some specials like free shipping and others but still that was a great price. Of course I got the same usual flames.
I understand the builders points. Want I don't understand is when they will say AW is overpriced but in the same thread they'll say if you want to buy from a company go to Falcon or Voodoo. I mean talk about high priced.
Zen16: If I buy better parts than what's in a alienware computer, would it still be a honda? Unless you get their best of the best(like the $6000+ pc they have). Much better parts exist, and even then, that $6000 pc can be built better for far less.
They pre overclock your system? Well that's certainly a nice feature....
also, they're most expensive becuase they can get away with that price. I'm pretty sure if they do OC it, it's a "safe" level of OCing(to minimize risk of any problems,) and a job done by your self would be much more effective.
This is just the latest thread im am currently battling in. The only reason I waste my time with it is because people looking for a new computer shouldnt be decieved by idiots who just hate AW.
im pexeterblue btw)ZeroZabercannon: Who has an Alienware? If some one has a bot do they actually run good?
z3r0: They run over priced and hot.
PExeterBlue: lol, oh please zero. Go look around on these boards for some debates about AW. These guys (^^^) hate AW for no good reason so youre only going to get grief about that company. I own 3, all three run great. You'll probably get people replying to this thread who have never even seen an AW let alone owned one who just plain out hate. My advice, ask about it somewhere else.
heiromancerdrackus : Um, I don't see how you can refute statistical FACT, Blue.
Heen05: Sure they are expensive, and maybe certain ones are hot...but its all relative to the person. If you have enough money and would rather buy a prebuilt PC, then by all means, go for Alienware, they are great systems....
PExeterBlue: Thats what i dont get, what's the fact?? You guys have yet to give any facts. Sure, they're a couple hundred more than building, AND? So what, Its worth it. Bottom line:
If you want a Porsche, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, or BMW go with the AW, but if you want to always be tinkering with it, go with the Honda, Nissan, or Hyundai(building your own). Because thats what its like, you buy a import car and keep tinkering with it until you get a riced out car with flashing neon lights all over it, which is what happens with homemade computers. AW, Voodoo, Falcon-NW = No tinkering, they're "factory tuned".
Im starting to think that the people here who hate AW think that when you buy an AW all that you get is just parts in a case like when you build one, and that its not worth the money. But there are so many extras. They tinker with the Bios for you, use some of the best components (BFG cards), and build a Quality computer with excellent wiring. The little performance options that they do make it worth while, and most of the extra cost is for their labor.
Poor people do it themselves, Non-poor people have others do it for them. I only make 12,000 a year, but you guys act like everone here is dirt poor and cant afford to spend any extra money. The way you guys talk, I feel like youre giving advice to 15 year olds with no jobs, and youre telling them everything they can do to save money, even if it means coming out with a less than perfect product. (I know im going to get FLAMED GOOD for that last bit, but it frustrates so much when you come in these threads to put down something you've never even seen. And its not like you would flame Voodoo, HP, or even Dell(which are more expensive than AW BTW), its like you only hate AW. They make a quality computer that should be considered in the PC buying process. And you monkeys arent helping. I came || close to building a PC, but in the end, im glad i didnt spend the time on it, I know I would just have problems with it. Now, im not going to stoop to youre level and flame building PCs blindly like you do AW, so, for people wanting a new PC, research. Do LOTS of research, and when you do, dont ask questions on a board that is 99% biased.
Ominous1: You are an idiot.
AW and NW = BMW? HAhahahaha
No.
Home built PCs use the same parts. So its not a Honda vs a BMW.
Honda = cheap parts.
Homebuilt = cheap pats? no.
Learn what you are talking about.
PExeterBlue: You still havent given any facts or good reasons why not to buy an AW. And the car thing was a good analogy. When you get an expensive car, it comes with a bigger engine, and a luxury interior. With a Honda, you have to work on it to get luxury interior, etc...Thats why AW's are most expensive. They do lots of performance tweaks, and in some cases OC your video card and CPU. The proof I have of you hating AW for no reason is simply this:
Dells are more money,pretty much non-upgradable, and non-overclockable. With an AW, you get a great bios so you can tweak whatever you want, you can upgrade whatever you want. Yet, you would tell someone who wants to buy a dell that they are absolute crap, would you? Nope. I would think you are bitter because you cant afford high-end prebuilts, but i dont make much money, and I can, so that cant be it.
Ominous1: YOU CAN GET MORE FOR LESS BY BUILDING IT YOUR SELF.
PExeterBlue: Like I said before, im not just getting a gfx card, mobo, ram, and HD in a box. As with probably Voodoo and other companies like them, AW gives you much more. I can see your point of view though, because its hard to see exactly what it is you get until you buy one. Im not sure why I decided to buy one 3 years ago, but im glad i did, because they've had a loyal customer ever since.
Ominous1: so what do you get.
zcookman: I hear you Blue.
Awhile back I posted how I put together a FX-55 rig with all top stuff on AW and the price shipped came out to more than a grand less then Dell, ABS and a couple others. The big surprise was that it ended up only being a couple hundred more than my shopping cart on Newegg with close to the same parts. Granted, AW had some specials like free shipping and others but still that was a great price. Of course I got the same usual flames.
I understand the builders points. Want I don't understand is when they will say AW is overpriced but in the same thread they'll say if you want to buy from a company go to Falcon or Voodoo. I mean talk about high priced.
Zen16: If I buy better parts than what's in a alienware computer, would it still be a honda? Unless you get their best of the best(like the $6000+ pc they have). Much better parts exist, and even then, that $6000 pc can be built better for far less.
They pre overclock your system? Well that's certainly a nice feature....
also, they're most expensive becuase they can get away with that price. I'm pretty sure if they do OC it, it's a "safe" level of OCing(to minimize risk of any problems,) and a job done by your self would be much more effective.
This is just the latest thread im am currently battling in. The only reason I waste my time with it is because people looking for a new computer shouldnt be decieved by idiots who just hate AW.
