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MR9800 - 16 pipe bios!

post #1 of 44
1/24/05 at 5:20pm
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ok here's the deal. i sent the bios to w1zzard from techpowerup.com. this is what he found from examining it:

"hmm looks like this bios is a 16p bios .. which probably means that the bios
does not lock the pipelines but something else .. do you have a mr9800 ?"

when i asked him how he deterined that:

"just know my stuff "

i believe him. don't see any reason not to. in asking what to do next:

"can you grab atitool 0.24 beta off the forums, run it and hold shift when
cliccking "settings". the list in overclocking has a few more entries at the
end then .. could you send me those entries? "

i'm currently at work and can't do this right now... at least for another 3 hours..., but if someone else can sooner than me, please forward that info to him @ w1zzard@gmx.net.

dude... 16 pipes would frickin rule assuming the laptop doesn't melt or spontaneously combust.
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post #2 of 44
1/24/05 at 5:37pm
i sent it to him
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post #3 of 44
1/24/05 at 5:52pm
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thanks dude.
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post #4 of 44
1/24/05 at 6:06pm
out of courtesy I would not post his email openly -- use something like name at place dot com. thanks

p.s. I think he did it himself too. oh well -- just my precautionary nature..
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post #5 of 44
1/24/05 at 6:08pm
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actually w1zzard posted it himself in the other thread

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=59992&page=3
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post #6 of 44
1/24/05 at 8:56pm
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Originally Posted by HULK
assuming the laptop doesn't melt or spontaneously combust.
that might be cooler than getting 16 pipes... until you realize that your life's work is on that HD that is in the middle of the fireball ....then you'd wake up in the hospital a year after the fact, still with high blood pressure...

i really would like to see a laptop burst into a fireball because of a massivly OC'd vid card, just not MY laptop...

where is whack anyway? (vacation?)
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post #7 of 44
1/24/05 at 10:15pm
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whack's back
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post #8 of 44
1/24/05 at 10:31pm
I fainted, woke up, and posted this useless sentence saying that I fainted. Well, done gentlemen.
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post #9 of 44
1/24/05 at 11:17pm
16 pipes?
now wait i must be confused
if you open to 16 pipes... make sure your house is protected for fire insurance....

Now if we do some serious over clocking and pipe opening... which i hope is soon... does the XPS have an alternate or a modified cooling system... so when i have these 12 pipes open and accidently leave my computer on, i dont have to come home from work and see my XPS melted to my desk? These 12 pipes ( not mentioning 16 pipes) is goin to create some concernable heat...
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post #10 of 44
1/25/05 at 12:52am
Pretty sure that something like opening pipelines isn't something you can do on the fly...
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post #11 of 44
1/25/05 at 12:53am
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i'm not too concerned about having 12 pipes, but odds are we'll only be able to run it at default clocks of 350/300. but then you never know.
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post #12 of 44
1/25/05 at 12:57am
now i know puters but im not much of a programmer..... why could we only run the clocks at default if we open the 4 pipes?
also when we open the 4 pipes... do we open vertex also?
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post #13 of 44
1/25/05 at 1:08am
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overclocking while dependent on quality of your parts (memory type, timings) is also heavily dependent on heat or ability to dissipate it. opening 12 pipes will generate more heat and may limit the amount that the card can be oc'ed

as for vertex shaders, it is believed that all 6 vertex shaders are open even though only 4 are advertised. read this article

http://www.beyond3d.com/previews/ati/m18/
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post #14 of 44
1/25/05 at 1:11am
yes this article does have good info...

In your terms lets say we open the pipes and shaders and cant overclock ( having to leave core speed at default ) do you think its a big performance increase, cuase we have to worry about heat... well we too could just crank up fangui all the time...
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post #15 of 44
1/25/05 at 1:25am
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oc'ed @ 425 core w/ 8 pipes
pixel/texture fill rate = 425 MHz * 8 = 3.4 G-pixels & texels / sec

stock @ 350 core w/ 12 pipes
pixel/texture fill rate = 350 MHz * 12 = 4.2 G-pixels & texels / sec

so yeah even though the core is much slower, it's still able to do more.

i don't know how to calculate memory bandwidth however, but i think it involves knowing the memory timings to calculate it properly.
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post #16 of 44
1/25/05 at 4:30am
so err 16 pipes eh? that is amazing. so that means that this is pretty much a desktop card with lower clock speeds then?
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post #17 of 44
1/25/05 at 4:30am
I was going to do 16 pipes after i figured out the 12...

Good news tho'!

I am going to downclock the gpu when I convert to test heat, etc... probably to 300 or 325 core.

As far as the memory timings, i know how to adjust those already.
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post #18 of 44
1/25/05 at 6:12am
What will this pipe unlocking mean for the average Joe Bloggs user/owner like myself? Or is it only geared towards the enthusiasts?
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post #19 of 44
1/25/05 at 6:17am
I have the x800 bio's guys.. someone let me know where to send it.. I think your all nuts lol But im curious to see what you come up with..

Oh its saved as a bin file..if it needs to be saved a different way let me know..
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post #20 of 44
1/25/05 at 8:45am

Thanks

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I have the x800 bio's guys.. someone let me know where to send it.. I think your all nuts lol But im curious to see what you come up with..

Oh its saved as a bin file..if it needs to be saved a different way let me know..
Today 04:12 AM
Simply Awesome. You have honestly just made my life worth living.

Im sure someone here knows whackamac's email. If you want to send it my way though, I could distribute it as well. I have a server I can put it on.

tomzak@wideopenwest.com
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