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64 bit sonoma centrino when?

post #1 of 16
1/24/05 at 7:29pm
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When will intel go 64 bit in notebooks?
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post #2 of 16
1/24/05 at 8:51pm
After they go 64-bit into desktops...

So, expect to see them bundled with Duke Nukem Forever.
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post #3 of 16
1/24/05 at 10:26pm
I believe Yonah is scheduled to be 64 bit, corretct? It is also going to be dual core and absolutely amazing.
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post #4 of 16
1/24/05 at 11:38pm
Neither the Sonoma (Dothan 533FSB) platform or the next generation Napa (dual core Yonah 667FSB) will get 64-bit support, but maybe the platform for the dual core Merom slated for 2007 will have support for this who knows.
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post #5 of 16
1/25/05 at 12:01am
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Originally Posted by snorre
Neither the Sonoma (Dothan 533FSB) platform or the next generation Napa (dual core Yonah 667FSB) will get 64-bit support, but maybe the platform for the dual core Merom slated for 2007 will have support for this who knows.

Maybe Dual-32 Bit Processors Can operate 64 Bit programs and OSes?
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post #6 of 16
1/25/05 at 12:03am
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Maybe Dual-32 Bit Processors Can operate 64 Bit programs and OSes?
No, 64-bit OSes requires a 64-bit CPU architecture to be able to run.
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post #7 of 16
1/25/05 at 12:03am
Who knows...maybe single core 32bit processors can operate in 64bit mode by combining their registers into groups of two acting as one unit when needed.
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post #8 of 16
1/25/05 at 12:05am
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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
Who knows...maybe single core 32bit processors can operate in 64bit mode by combining their registers into groups of two acting as one unit when needed.
That's not possible I'm afraid
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post #9 of 16
1/25/05 at 12:05am
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Originally Posted by MichaelX30
Maybe Dual-32 Bit Processors Can operate 64 Bit programs and OSes?
Nope, it just doesn't work that way, but you shouldn't look on 32 bit as being inferior right now though. The gains that you get from using a 64 bit processor / operating system combination (particularly, more addressable memory) are not really all that applicable for the case of the vast majority of users, even power users. The main reason that AMD64 has taken off so well isn't because it's 64 bit, but rather because it's faster at _32_ bit than Intel in many cases and is far better in bang for the buck in all cases.
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post #10 of 16
1/25/05 at 12:14am
Intel's been really all over the road lately. First, they dismissed 64 bit desktop chips, then they put 64 bit extensions in the p4 Extreme edition... (i'm still not 100% sure what all that was about, except a hand in your wallet)

Now you've got "Pentium 4 processors with Extended Memory 64 Technology" just starting to arrive. Intel seems to be trying to bring up a 64-bit desktop chip without looking like they're the second ones to the table.

I'm not sure we can predict anything from Intel more than a couple months in advance, until the chips have actually come out. Except more bad advertisements with the Blue Man Group.
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post #11 of 16
1/25/05 at 12:44am
So what are the statistics for Intel vs AMD sales? If Intel still holds 80-90% of the market then Microsoft is not going to overlook that and probably delay the Longhorn.
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post #12 of 16
1/25/05 at 1:05am
Longhorn isn't even 64bit is it? It's just the newest Windows incarnation, right? codenamed Longhorn for now.
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post #13 of 16
1/25/05 at 1:17am
Yes, the newest Windows Longhorn 64-bit build available is the 6.0.4083. Also don't forget Windows XP x64 Edition RC1...
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post #14 of 16
1/25/05 at 1:58am
Now that Intel has adopted the AMD64 instruction set, Microsoft doesn't really have any reason to delay a 64-bit OS; both of the big CPU players have their AMD64 chips out, so most of the marketshare is covered (Though not by 64-bit chips, just by companies making them).

That said, I think the reason that 64-bit doesn't have much of an advantage to the average user is not because the advantage isn't there, but because the programs to take advantage of it just aren't available yet. You wait, give it a year or two after Intel puts out their first AMD64 chip and it will be a totally different story.

I point to linux for an example of how 64-bit mode leads to a decent speed boost in a large number of apps. The 64-bit programs ARE available for that platform, but it's not really a desktop platform.
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post #15 of 16
1/25/05 at 2:45am
64-bit apps for Windows is a chicken-egg kinda story, because once Windows XP x64 Edition finally is released to the public a lot of apps will be released shortly there after.
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post #16 of 16
1/25/05 at 3:28am
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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
Who knows...maybe single core 32bit processors can operate in 64bit mode by combining their registers into groups of two acting as one unit when needed.
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