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post #41 of 75
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Originally Posted by oneeye
I apologize if the tone of this seemed unfriendly. Certainly not meant to upset anyone here. Just give food for thought. However, there is no Falcon section. Also, I hope some of the big wigs at AW read these forums from time to time. I also hope they check out the resellers opinions where the customer service ratings are God-awful. High end, but no dead pixel guarantee and a 15% restickittoyou fee??? Fugem. They're Dell with a glossy screen. Got these boards to thank for my opinion too. I was fairly convinced to get one. 3 weeks later on this board turned me 100% off. BTW, I may be a kid, but I'm a 42 year old kid who can afford a Falcon with a bit of belt tightening and I won't even have to pull the kids out of private school. As for the flag thing, to each his own. I'm no zealot, but I certainly love this country and any foreigner that was offended by my lappie can feel free to kiss my a$$
Nicely put. This is a site dedicated to researching what laptop would best suit your needs, and that is exactly what you have used it for. I for one look forward to your review oneeye.
post #42 of 75
oneeye, is the Falcon your final answer? You were on a pretty extensive search. from used, Dell, Alienware, Voodoo, and now Falcon. Your comments in post #30 are pretty hilarious. the part about the AW big wigs. lol. Would you like a personal message from the Alienware CEO? You might be surprised to know the extent of Alienware support. You should watch a support type forum to see if a number of similiar complaints surface on certain models but you should also look to see how quickly the forum changes and members just seem to disappear. There will always be issues with any system from any brand name. be careful not to bunch all of the issues up into a big ball but rather view each one on its own. Alienware sales are huge compared to the small amount of issues that always end up resolved. Its not just the AW forum, but all support type forums. That was your main complaint for not getting an Alienware. either way, hope you get yourself the perfect machine for you.
post #43 of 75
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Originally Posted by aurora
oneeye, is the Falcon your final answer? You were on a pretty extensive search. from used, Dell, Alienware, Voodoo, and now Falcon. Your comments in post #30 are pretty hilarious. the part about the AW big wigs. lol. Would you like a personal message from the Alienware CEO? You might be surprised to know the extent of Alienware support. You should watch a support type forum to see if a number of similiar complaints surface on certain models but you should also look to see how quickly the forum changes and members just seem to disappear. There will always be issues with any system from any brand name. be careful not to bunch all of the issues up into a big ball but rather view each one on its own. Alienware sales are huge compared to the small amount of issues that always end up resolved. Its not just the AW forum, but all support type forums. That was your main complaint for not getting an Alienware. either way, hope you get yourself the perfect machine for you.
Very true. In PC Gamer when they reviewed the Area 51m last year, they stated yearly sales figures as:

AW- over 100 mil
Falcon- around 3 mil

Don't get me wrong, Falcon is a great company and I'd love to own one of their machines.
post #44 of 75
Thread Starter 
I feel like I'm on a quest. Want a really sharp lappie with all of the minimally required bells and whistles, but I have a fetish...no, an obsession... regarding screen quality. It has to be perfect. A dead pixel will be the only thing I ever see on the screen and I will obsess until I either become addicted to low level narcotic sedatives or throw the damned thing out. Alienware is absolutely out due to their dead pixel policy and restocking fee. I could never shoot craps with 3400.00 . I would rather pay 4-5000.00 for a top notch machine with stellar aesthetics and a bullet proof screen policy. The only real contenders in my eye, are Hypersonic, and Falcon. I think if you get a perfect machine, the 7700 is the best way to go hands down. Great looking and premium guts, but it's a crap shoot. Three green pixels rear their ugly head and your expensive machine has just been considerably downgraded. Being practical, who would pay a premium dollar on ebay for a 7700 advertised with 3 dead pixels? They'll give you 2K maybe. I only use that to illustrate that you have then paid full retail for an essentially damaged item. I'm sure my incessant harping on this is annoying, but that is where my first priority lies. I'll probably wait to get the sonoma on the fragbook, but I'm pretty sure that's where my money will go for better or worse.
post #45 of 75
If you're set on absolutely no dead pixels then you're going to have to drop Hypersonic from the list. Their guarantee is zero dead pixels in the center area of the screen and 1 dead pixel anywhere else. For 17" screens they allow 1 dead pixel in the center and 2 dead pixels anywhere else.
post #46 of 75
Thread Starter 
Not if you pay an extra C-note!
post #47 of 75
Are you sure? Because at the bottom of this page: http://www.hypersonic-pc.com/2001/sy...bile.htm#Pixel
in reaaaaaaally fine print it says the following:

"2. Even if no Dead Pixel Insurance is purchased, Hypersonic will still guarantee that 17" screens will have no more than 1 dead/partially-lit pixel in the center screen area and no more than 2 dead/partially-lit pixels outside of the center area."
post #48 of 75
Thread Starter 
It's the wording. It means even if no "dead pixel insurance" is purchased you still get a guarantee of only 1 dead pixel. If you spend the extra hundred you are guaranteed none. I spoke with them earlier today and clarified that among other things.
post #49 of 75
Oh okay that's better So really if you pay the extra, then the only difference between Hypersonic and Falcon is that Hypersonic guarantees you won't have any dead pixels when your computer arrives, and you have 30 days to notify them. And Falcon guarantees no dead pixels when your computer arrives and that none will develop during the warranty period.

Either way they both sell really nice computers and you'll be happy with what you get.
post #50 of 75
Thread Starter 
Thanks. It's about 1300.00 more for the Falcon, but the perks are a bit nicer. Metal briefcase, free overnight shipping to the factory both ways, and a cooler paint job. In the end, it will probably be Falcon.
post #51 of 75
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Originally Posted by aurora
good for you. hope you enjoy the Falcon.
I don't see this thread lasting very long.
4 pages, not too shabby..

I have a dead pixel on the right side close to half way down. Its outside AW's pixel picture, so I just have to live with it. I can understand where your coming from with this oneeye.
post #52 of 75
I think there's room in the market for many brands.. I don't have any problem with someone dropping $5k on a lappy if that is their hobby. I just think his reasoning is a little wacko.

He admits if he could get a 'perfect' 7700 from AW that would be a better deal but he acts like that wouldn't be likely. Mine is 'perfect', no dead pixels, no heat issues, etc. as was the last laptop I bought from AW. The few people I know that have AW products were also all 'perfect'. All the customer service I've received from them has been at the same level or higher than every other tech company I've dealt with.. (and since my wife and I are computer junkies and dinks thats a lot)

I'm afraid he is relying on the criticisms of the vocal minority to make his decision. You have to understand that the great majority of those who purchase from AW or NW or anyone get 'perfect' systems. You dont hear them whining on forums because they have nothing to whine about.

So if you just like Northwest better.. fine, more power to ya.. drop the dough and get what makes you happy.. but dont try to justify your spending 5k by saying its the only way you could get a 'perfect' machine. Personally, I went through this same issue when I wanted to buy an AW machine and people told me to save money and buy something cheaper.. I didn't want something cheaper, I wanted the cool attention grabbing alien eyes! ..and there's nothing wrong with that.

Just be up front and say I really like this brand even though there is no real difference in the machines or service.. I can respect that and I expect most other people can too.
post #53 of 75
Well... I think you missed his point though. It isn't that it would be impossible to get a perfect screen by going with AW, it's that if he didn't there would be nothing he could do about it. If he goes with Falcon or Hypersonic, he is guaranteed a perfect screen. There's a big difference. He knows he wants perfection and he's willing to pay the price. I don't see how that's "wacko" reasoning.
post #54 of 75
There's another reason I notice for going with Hypersonic, the 3.8GHz P4 is an option where the Alienware, Sager and I believe Falcon NW top out at 3.6GHz. I wonder why that is.
post #55 of 75
..and just because you dont see it doesn't make it any less true. <-- means jk

You missed MY point(s). Which was both that the odds of having the problems he's worrying about are so low as to make them not worth mentioning AND that I don't think thats his real reason for posting.

My impression was that he posted about the screen policies in an attempt to justify spending a big chunk of change on a NW. My reply to that was that he doesnt need to justify it.. If he just has a thing for the NW machine then great, just say that. Don't worry that people will think you're spending too much. You have to spend as much as it takes to get what you want. The attempt to cover his true reason for posting was thinly veiled and that is what I was calling wacko.

edit: to include reference that the first line was tongue-in-cheek..
post #56 of 75
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Originally Posted by Qckning
You missed MY point(s). Which was both that the odds of having the problems he's worrying about are so low as to make them not worth mentioning AND that I don't think thats his real reason for posting.
AW specifically changed their dead pixel policy for the 7700 because of the increased likelihood of getting one or more dead pixels. The manufacturer of the screens themselves changed their policies to the resellers because of this. I think this itself would show that the chance of getting a dead pixel isn't so low that it shouldn't be mentioned. Anyone who really wants a perfect screen has every reason to take this into account.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qckning
My impression was that he posted about the screen policies in an attempt to justify spending a big chunk of change on a NW. My reply to that was that he doesnt need to justify it.. If he just has a thing for the NW machine then great, just say that. Don't worry that people will think you're spending too much. You have to spend as much as it takes to get what you want. The attempt to cover his true reason for posting was thinly veiled and that is what I was calling wacko.
Wow I didn't get this impression at all, I wonder why you think that. Have you seen his earlier postings? He's basically checked out a ton of laptops and finally settled on either a Falcon or a Hypersonic. I don't see any reason to believe he is embarrassed or has to justify his purchase. Maybe we just look at things differently. I agree with you though that if someone is going to spend a lot of money then they should just be happy with it and not worry that other people will think you're spending too much.
post #57 of 75
Thread Starter 
Thanks Krew. He did entirely miss the point and you understand my position. It would be impossible to buy the AW without wondering whether or not you'r egonna get screwed. Sorry, but that's the truth. If you get a perfect one more power to you. You got a deal. If not, you got pimped, with no recourse. At least in my opinion.
post #58 of 75
Hypersonic is also doing some new stuff with new colors:

http://www.hypersonic-pc.com/EX7/index.asp



It is to die for! I also like the silver one:

post #59 of 75
You know if you guys keep posting in this AW forum, and keep talking about Falcon northwest maybe they will start a Falcon Northwest section for you……….lol……….us.
post #60 of 75
I wish
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