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Originally Posted by 68Swede
Ordered mine on 1/19, but no word yet. Cant wait to turn my dell into a doorstop!
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Originally Posted by taliosfalcon
it looks like i'm the earliest orderer whos 9860 hasent even shipped yet(jan 5th) *sob* and it doesnt look like it'l ship till friday
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Originally Posted by ls3mach
You ordered the 13 and payment cleared the 18th? Who did you order from? I ordered the 11th from PCT and payment cleared the 18th. Got the cash discount. As of yesterday mine has not shipped. Why is it that I ordered before, but you get yours first?
Edit I just went back and read that you ordered from Discountlaptops. No wonder they have the highest rating, the ship fast. |
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Originally Posted by ls3mach
You ordered the 13 and payment cleared the 18th? Who did you order from? I ordered the 11th from PCT and payment cleared the 18th. Got the cash discount. As of yesterday mine has not shipped. Why is it that I ordered before, but you get yours first?
Edit I just went back and read that you ordered from Discountlaptops. No wonder they have the highest rating, the ship fast. |
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Originally Posted by Luke@PCTorque
Sager does not give priority to any reseller, variations in the order can cause one order to ship faster than another. If we ever found out that sager was treating resellers unfairly and giving priority to resellers over shipping we would no longer carry them. Also as a note on you may want to check out rating on a company by bizrate.com rather then reseller ratings. Bizate:
http://www.bizrate.com/ratings_guide...id--53855.html We have over 500 rating on bizrate.com because we find them to be a little more unbiased for reviews since you can not pay to be able check bad reviews before they are posted. Larger companies such as Dell use Bizrate.com because they are unbiased and do not allow for farming of reviews and doesn't allow companies to look perfect. In all honesty if we could have ourselves removed from resellerrattings.com.com we would do it in a heart beat. |
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Originally Posted by Adam@PCTorque
rofl... I hate politics, but I love helping uninformed people
You tell me which review site looks more realistic on their reviews and ratings: Dell: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1867.html http://www.bizrate.com/ratings_guide...id--28463.html Gateway: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2053.html http://www.bizrate.com/ratings_guide..._mid--363.html Bestbuy: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1823.html http://www.bizrate.com/ratings_guide...id--17474.html Office Depot: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1372.html http://www.bizrate.com/ratings_guide..._mid--814.html CompUSA: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1912.html http://www.bizrate.com/ratings_guide...__mid--98.html GameStop: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller413.html http://www.bizrate.com/ratings_guide...id--23984.html Ebgames: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller4466.html http://www.bizrate.com/ratings_guide...id--18562.html Walmart: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1636.html http://www.bizrate.com/ratings_guide..._mid--401.html Listed above are all companies that do not pay reseller ratings or farm their customers to reseller ratings and it reflects in their score. I listed the above names because I figured they were companies many of us know and need not question how legit they are. Many of the resellerratings scores show 2 out of 3 people upset about their purchase and if this were true there's no way they would still be in business. Why does Alienware, Dell and everyone not sue to get removed? Because resellerratings falls back on the listings not being their responsibility, but there because of their members. Here's a couple quotes from their site: Quote:
ahhh, here we go, in the merchant faq: Quote:
https://www.resellerratings.com/billing/ Notice, if you get a fake review on your account they hide it for 48 hours and remove it within 48 hours so nobody sees it. If you get a less than perfect review, you also have 48 hours to *work* with the customer (smooth talk, free carrying case, shipping refund) and make it a 10.0 before anyone ever sees it. If you do NOT pay them the standard time is 14 days a fake review can sit on your account and make your company look sub par. So, considering a company has no choice but to be listed, if they want to look as good as their competition, they are going to have to not only be as good as them, but also pay reseller ratings. Now you know why some companies don't want anything to do with it or bother trying. I'm not saying paying them gives you a 10.0, but it sure helps and without a doubt even companies listed, one paying one not, the paid one will have a much better chance of a better rating. Do fake reviews make it through? YES, we've been bashed by competitors, former forum members, and just plain haters that never even bought from us. All you can do is request it be removed and they eventually get around to it. Why don't we just pay them? I've been advised by many to do this, but I just don't agree with it. If I was that type of person, these forums wouldn't be as successful as they are. What the smaller companies do is send out an email to their customers a few weeks after purchase… you know, how’s it going, how’s the product, I love you, you love me. If they get a positive response back such as ”thanks again for everything and the laptop runs great!” They will then ask that person for a review, no reply or less than enthusiastic, they don’t. That’s farming customers and what happens. Another thing I bet many didn’t know is another Sager reseller famous for their 10.0, one of their employees is a good friend of the owner of reseller ratings and even worked with him on the site before changing jobs. So, quick run down: No we don't pay reseller ratings, no we have no choice to be listed there, no we don't like how it's set up or agree with it, yes we do think it's a good tool vs not having anything to go off of, and no we mean no disrespect to anyone. We're just sharing the facts, truth, and information as it's been presented to us since the topic of our resellerratings was brought up. As for the shipping: If Sager EVER gave priority on another reseller to ship an identical order to ours that was in the system first, we would be looking for another distro. Variations in the order can change the date orders ship, the shipping dept can screw up and an order could get held back. A system designated to fill an order may fail testing and also be held back. There are many things. From what I can tell all the major Sager resellers submit orders to Sager very quickly so no matter where you order, it will not likely have anything to do with your shipping date unless something unexpected happens. Am I going to catch hell for this post? Yes, likely, but like I always tell Laura "If there is a Hell and I end up there when I die it sure won't be for lying". |
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Originally Posted by Adam@PCTorque
nonono, nobody is freaking out, this is just info I'm sharing (BTW, I added to it describing how companies farm their customers). This info isn't new, I just see it come up so much I finally decided to address it with facts and be very politically incorrect many will think.
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cheers.
