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1/30/05 at 3:05am
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xp prof has a built in webserver, more user restrictions etc available (you have more options than admin and limited) and a few other things, i'd still be using home now if i didnt need prof for me c#/asp.net homework as if you have all the extra things running prof runs games a bit slower than home
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1/30/05 at 10:28am
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1/30/05 at 9:19pm
I get tired of this question....not the people who ask it, but the people who respond (and not necessarily the people who have thus far responded since I hope they would agree with what I am about to say):
You only need XP Pro if you need what the extra features. MOST people do not.
TaliosFalcon clearly DOES need it, so he should have got XP Pro.
Oshe...can't tell.
They are the same operating system, with Pro having additional features that are largely needed in a professional environment where security is an issue. TaliosFalcon is a developer and therefore he needs it for yet another reason.
90 percent of people who feel they must have it, but it because they think they are getting "less of an operating system"--that's simply not the case. They should have called it something else (xp home and xp business, maybe).
I know tons of people who got the Pro and wasted the extra $70.
Look here and do the homework, then make an informed decision rather than listen to uninformed people say "Get pro--Home sucks! You're not a man if you don't get Pro!'
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...p_home_pro.asp
You only need XP Pro if you need what the extra features. MOST people do not.
TaliosFalcon clearly DOES need it, so he should have got XP Pro.
Oshe...can't tell.
They are the same operating system, with Pro having additional features that are largely needed in a professional environment where security is an issue. TaliosFalcon is a developer and therefore he needs it for yet another reason.
90 percent of people who feel they must have it, but it because they think they are getting "less of an operating system"--that's simply not the case. They should have called it something else (xp home and xp business, maybe).
I know tons of people who got the Pro and wasted the extra $70.
Look here and do the homework, then make an informed decision rather than listen to uninformed people say "Get pro--Home sucks! You're not a man if you don't get Pro!'
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...p_home_pro.asp
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1/31/05 at 4:01pm
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1/31/05 at 9:05pm
well right at the start, if you plan to be in a network with other computer to share files and all, pro is the way to go. I mean, in home you can't browse domains and some other little irriting things are just... well irriting ^^
pro has a lot of useful things... but most people don,t even know or care about them... you have to know what you want.
home is a very good choice unless you use the pro's features like it was said before.
here's the list of features that XP has over home
pro has a lot of useful things... but most people don,t even know or care about them... you have to know what you want.
home is a very good choice unless you use the pro's features like it was said before.
here's the list of features that XP has over home
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1/31/05 at 9:21pm
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Originally Posted by Tar-Minyatur
well right at the start, if you plan to be in a network with other computer to share files and all, pro is the way to go. I mean, in home you can't browse domains and some other little irriting things are just... well irriting ^^
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To be fair, how many home users have to browse domains? You make it sound, unintentionally, like you cannot browse a network (workgroup), which you can.
Also, for those who know how, you can access files on a domain with home, you just cannot JOIN the domain.
Remote desktop is nice, but you can accomplish the same with freely available software (and some would argue it works better than XP Pro over dial up)
Multiple processor support of two processors--uh, yeah...name 10 people with a multiprocessor machine (not including hyperthreading, which is recognized as two processors). OK, I have a multi-processor file server, but who else?
I can count the number of times I used Automated System Recovery and the backup utilities on one finger--there are better alternatives to both
Web server software -- apache=full fledged webserver for free, vs. crippled mini-IIS with XP Pro--good enough for web development and not much else.
Security features supporting file encryption--argh, the next time some one uses file encryption and then forgets his/her password and cannot GET his/her files I will kill someone

Enterprise and advanced networking features so XP Pro machines can join active domains--yes, we covered this one. Especially useful for anal-retentive SysAdmins who want to lock people out of computers so they cannot get into trouble

XP Pro is over-rated for most users.
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1/31/05 at 9:30pm
I use pro for the network features... I use folder protection instead of that damn encryption, and I don't use most of all features... except some administrative features.
you are definitly right about xp pro being over-rated. How much people brag about having pro without even knowing what it does over home??? way too much =P
you are definitly right about xp pro being over-rated. How much people brag about having pro without even knowing what it does over home??? way too much =P
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I wish people would do their homework... 
Marax winxp home does support HT.
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;810231

Marax winxp home does support HT.
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;810231
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2/1/05 at 10:02am
My point is there is a difference between symmetric multiprocessing (SMP), which is what dual processing is, and simultaneous multithreading (SMT), which is what hyperthreading is. SMP can actually be less efficient than SMT, but there is no getting around the fact that you have twice as much processing. SMT gains are due more to increased efficiency then to increased processing capability, and is essentially CPU slight of hand. (which sounds more derogatory then I intend).
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Originally Posted by aussie
I wish people would do their homework...
![]() Marax winxp home does support HT. http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;810231 |
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Originally Posted by gerryf
My point is there is a difference between symmetric multiprocessing (SMP), which is what dual processing is, and simultaneous multithreading (SMT), which is what hyperthreading is. SMP can actually be less efficient than SMT, but there is no getting around the fact that you have twice as much processing. SMT gains are due more to increased efficiency then to increased processing capability, and is essentially CPU slight of hand. (which sounds more derogatory then I intend).
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I would say HT not so much greater efficiency but the use of spare capacity within the chip. I would define greater efficiency getting more out of any one logical unit say a branch predictor. Thus Intel or the programmer might make the branch predictor use less cycles every time it is used. That would be greater efficency.
However, if you have say two branch predictors and one of them is idle some of the time due to clocking restraints then by redesigning your clocking system (as an example) you may get a second branch predictor for free. This is exactly what Intel has done in HT. They unlocked the instruction piplelines to allow the underutilised logical units to accept another thread of execution.
This of course then comes back to your original correct assertion that SMP gives you twice the processing power because you have two real CPU cores (but of course you never quite get a 2x increase due to other constraints). With current P4/HT chips Intel does not have two of every logical unit on the silicon die so somewhere you are going to bottleneck because the other thread is using that unit.
What this has to do with the original thread I have no I idea but it sounded good at the time.
Personally if I had my choice between Home and Pro, I would go Pro just because I do not wish to artificially limit what I could do with one of the world's fastest laptops for the sake of a few dollars. Which of course is just another argument for why you ditch Windows all together and run Linux...
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