....... I guess I should have stated what I was using the laptop for: 1) 3D animation 2) Games. Notice #1.
|Originally posted by Atremis
Neison, you still lost out in the end due to the massively more powerful CPU (Hyperthreading and 800 MHz FSB anyone?), much better video card, and dual-channel ram of the Sager. The Wide-Angles screen of the 5680 is at least as good as that of the M60, and the 5680 does have gigabit ethernet. Not to mention the greatly superior tech support and warranty of PCTorque/Sager.
I said in the friggin first post that the CPU of the 5680 was probably better, as if I didn't know or something, and that's the only
thing you can wave your finger about. But no, the difference isn't going to be so dramatic that I'm going to be crying at night that IE doesn't open .0000001 seconds faster.
The video card of the M60 is a certified OpenGL Workstation-Class QuadroFX. You can praise that lil M-10P all you like, but that doesn't make it rotate my models faster in 3D software, it doesn't allow me to do hardware renders, it doesn't let me run applications like XSI or Houdini, and it certainly isn't supported by any 3D software publisher -- call em up and say 'yeah, I'm running Maya on the Radeon 9600 pro' and they'll say 'dummy, we don't support that card because it isn't optimized to run our software.' ATI is notorious for being horrible in the professional 3D arena, regardless if it runs games a few frames faster than it's nVidia 'equivalent.' As if the difference in frame rates was that dramatic -- as if you had benchmarks to back up your mouth
I can't even believe I have to defend this
Hooray for dual-channel ram
And Atremis -- you said the 'wide-angles screen' of the 5680 compares to the WUXGA (1920x1200) screen of the M60. They're completely different ratios and resolutions. 'Wide-angles screen' should be read as 'able to view from wide angles' not
'widescreen ratio'. This comment and the one about the graphics cards are why I didn't want to bother with you.
In the very second post
I said that the 5680 had gigabit ethernet.
And calling the build quality of the M60 a low-grade POS???
Hooray for that superior
Sager quality! puhleeease.
I fully agree with what jimg72 and Loki said above about Sager support vs. Dell support. I had all kinds of stupid issues with my 8887 -- and although I wasn't dealing with pctorque, as I ordered direct from Sager, and the support was pathetic. I shipped the thing back to em because it was just a lousy buy, imo. So I guess it comes down to 'get what you need'
Direwolf -- an ATI desktop mobility video card is not faster than nVidia in either the 2d or 3d realm (when it comes to getting work done, ie. not playing games) -- especially when comparing it to the QuadroFX. The Quadro is just as over-clockable as any ATI.
The WUXGA would be better quality in general, but I have no clue about any burn problems -- I'll be sure to get a replacement the moment it happens if it does
There are minor issues in dealing with a different aspect ratio, as you can read about in other threads about the M60 in this forum, but they are minor and quite fixable.
And you're right, I did sacrifice some speed for battery life, less heat (again, love those exhaust fans!), and less weight, but I thought I already covered that ground.
I haven't seen a larger ratio of horror stories in the Dell forums, at least not while I was perusing them for the past week or so. As if the dell forums were a testament to anything, I'd bet money that 90% of the people on there are 'puter noobs with problems that could be fixed with a bit more knowledge of their hardware. As jimg72 said, half the battle is knowing what the problem is. I am aware that the Inspiron series is a lower quality build because it's farmed out, but the workstations and etc aren't.