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I decided to make this it's own thread after replying to a previous post. The content below is from a problem I have experienced with Dell- I am not saying this is going to happen to you and I'm sure some of you may have had good experiences with Dell but in hopes to save someone from problems- here is my advice...

Let me tell you why never to buy a Dell product-

1. Dell uses DELL specific parts and you are usually stuck with buying only from DELL when you need to upgrade. Dell also doesn't use AMD parts because they are in bed together with Intel.

2. Dell financing is HORRIBLE- my wife bought a Dell (before I met her) and to get her computer, she agreed to 16% interest in financing. Over a year of making $100.00 payments, her bill never went any lower. I looked at the bill and noticed they had increased her monthly interest rate to 28.5% and added a so called "service charge" of $35 to her bill. $100.00 payments a month were not putting a dent in paying the computer off and she owed the same amount as when she first bought it.

3. Dell Service is HORRIBLE- When you buy a computer from Dell, you talk to a U.S. saleman who will help you with ANYTHING in order to make their beloved SALE.
After you buy your Dell- you will probably NEVER TALK TO ANOTHER U.S. REPRESENTATIVE because Dell outsources it's customer service to India. Not only do you NOT resolve your problem, but you also get a person with a list of answers of what to say who can not speak English very well. I don't care where you are from but if you can't help resolve a problem- don't give me some pre-defined answer chosen from a list!

4. Dell will try to screw you- speaking to Customer Service in INDIA...I paid off the balance of my wife's Dell-so-called-computer in one lump sum of $1,232.86 (for this amount I could build a computer that runs circles around this piece of ****) which actually amounted to $2,432.86 after a year of the $100.00-$200.00 payments she was making a month. I confirmed with *INDIA* that this was paid off only to get a bill the following month for $42.28 of a "remaining balance."

BULLSH**....I spent even more hours on the phone talking to India to correct this error which after two weeks, an e-mail confirmation was sent saying that all payments are complete and up to date.

Just recently, my wife received a bill from Dell...

Apparently Dell seems to think that she still owes 41 cents!!

I joke with my wife all the time now that if she ever wants to spend $2000.00 on a computer, let me build it or order it from somewhere else.
post #2 of 56
You're preaching to the choir man
post #3 of 56
Wow that sux.
post #4 of 56
ive experenced the same thing from them, they wouldnt even warrenty a power supply when we bought an extended warranty and faxed them the proff. btw, i custom build desktops for lots of people, its kinda my own business and how i live. So if you even need one, i'll build it and fix it. If anything goes wrong ill replace the parts and if they are underwarrenty i put in the new parts for free, upgrades ect.
post #5 of 56
Ok, lets see here, what I got out of that is that Dell financing and Service sucks. Ok, I'll agree to that. But basicly, so do everyone elses.

As far as Dell Specific parts...ummmm, she bought a name brand PC, they all use specific parts. Well, not all, but all the big ones do AFAIK. Sure there are some general components here and there, but they arn't buying their motherboards from Asus I can tell ya that.

I can certainly agree with Dell Financial being the suck right along with all their folks in India. I'll state this right now, I have no problem with India or the people that are from there. However, I have serious issues with how Dell lets the people they hire there, run things.

I've had my own issues with them. Support however I haven't required. I've been fortunate that my I9100 has been rock solid since the day I got it.

So, here is what I would say. Buy a Dell, but only if you can pay for the damn thing in cash or some other form of financing and only buy one if you know what the hell you are doing and won't have to ask support questions. But then again, if you are getting a desktop system and know what the hell you are doing, chances are you'll build it yourself and won't be looking to buy from a box retailer.

Oh, I've been told that you have a much better chance getting support in the US using their Support Chat rather then by phone.
post #6 of 56
How many more of these "Dell sucks", "Alienware sucks" "Sony sucks" people do we have to endure here? This has all been gone over with a fine toothed comb. For months if not years. If you want the best service, the best parts, and the best price, do the research beforehand. You're more than welcome to visit this forum and many others who can give you no-nonsense opinions from real users. I consider the computer users here to be quite knowledgeable. I'm sick of these newby forum members with single digit posts crying foul after a sucky purchase, and this guy's crying 1 to 2 years later!

And as far as financing goes: I know the print is reeaaal small, but if you read it, it'll tell you everything you need to know about what you're paying! I don't know anyone who uses financing from a retailer who gets a great rate. Target and Sears can have financing that ranges between 18 to 23%! Next time you want to buy a computer, and if you just GOTTA put it on a credit card, consider shopping for an outside source like Captial One or Mastercard and negotiate the best rate you can get.

I love a controversy just like the next guy, but this sh!te is old news.
post #7 of 56
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1. Dell uses DELL specific parts and you are usually stuck with buying only from DELL when you need to upgrade. Dell also doesn't use AMD parts because they are in bed together with Intel.
what he means by this is that Dell uses PROPRIETARY parts. For instance; my friend blew his Dell power supply unit after a short circuit. Not knowing about Dell's proprietary parts, he went to the local CompUSA and bought an off the shelf power supply. Well, he came home and saw that it will not work in his Dell. He had to call Dell and order their Dell power supply, which wasn't cheap.

well, generally proprietary parts means that you usually can't buy the brand-specific parts at the local computer shop for less, and you are locked into that brand's harware offering through them.
post #8 of 56
There are problems with EVERY company, and dell owners are not even the AW owner type of people who go around bragging about how ****ing elite they are because they own whatever brand, so I just don't understand why everyone jumps on this bandwagon.
post #9 of 56
I can only speak from my experience but I have owned these computers:

1 Dell Laptop 8000
1 Dell Desktop 8600 "btw I love cause it has the x800"
2 Gateway Desktop "both had issues"
1 Gateway Laptop "solid"
1 Acer Desktop "worked awesome"
1 Custom built "had psu problem ever since day 1"

Worst company to deal with when your having an issue is Gateway.

Best company I had to deal with when an issue came up is Dell.

It's too bad someone hasn't done a study about ratio's of companys that has good to bad customers resolution.

My next computer will be the i9300 unless the 8104 comes out first.
post #10 of 56
Hmm I have never had to call Dell for any problems... EVER. And I was able to order Ram from a non-Dell source. Hmm I sense some one is jealous cuz they were screwed by VooDooPCs
post #11 of 56
All in all, considering customer service and what it is, today, I'd have to say Dell is doing a decent job. There is far worst out there. Unfortunately, as end users, we have to endure all of this nonsense. However, after having had heard some of the horror stories out there, I consider myself fortunate. Peace!
post #12 of 56
While I can't argue with you and your girlfriend's experience with Dell... it was not good.

I can say that a lot depends on who you talk to and just how much you know. I'm sure Dell covered there butt on the interest rate in the small print, just like I'm sure your girlfriend trusted them and the saleperson and didn't bother to read it. Sales people lie! Period. End of discussion. When it comes to computers, you better know what you're doing or you'll probably get screwed by Dell, HP, Gateway, and a few others. The rest need your business to stay in business, so they won't piss you off by trying to oversell you or misleading you.

Service is definitely a crap shoot with just about any company. It all depends on who you talk to... and if they've outsourced to India, you're doubly screwed because they don't understand the lingo and it doesn't matter to them if you're happy or not.

I've had bad support from IBM and they are supposed to be one of the best. You buy a computer and just pray everything works out of the box. My advice is, if you buy a computer and something doesn't work and they have 30 day return policy, send it back and re-order. Yea, it sucks, but that's the one way to leave support out of the equation.
post #13 of 56
dude, maybe your wife should have read the fine print on her financing agreement. dell never screwed her over, she simply didn't know what she got herself into
post #14 of 56
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How many more of these "Dell sucks", "Alienware sucks" "Sony sucks" people do we have to endure here?

I love a controversy just like the next guy, but this sh!te is old news.

Controversy has roots in reality. While I have no compaints about Dell; Sony is absolutely the most atrocious company on the planet when dealing with customers who have problem, I have a number of personal experiences helping friends dealing with Sony. Its customer service department is simply immoral/unethical or whatever other term you can attribute to them.

Let me tell you what the
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is, the
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is that until a ruthless company like Sony changes their practice (Toshiba is a close second) about customer service, the number of people on this board making complains about them will only increase, until everyone know what they are really about.
post #15 of 56
I have two Dell PDA's, three eMachines desktops, two HP desktops, one Packard Bell desktop. Also my best friend owns a Dell desktop and his brother owns a Dell notebook.

Had to call Dell once to get a broken LCD for one of my PDA's replaced under my accidental damage service (which I'm damn glad I bought because I had thought I didn't and ordered a new PDA the same day I broke my old one, and found the paperwork two months later). Waited on hold 45 minutes, to talk to a guy (didn't sound indian, oddly enough... accent was thick, but it sounded like some european accent), who seemed to be distracted to the point that when he asked me for my e-mail address (to cross refrence records and verify), and I gave him my webmaster address for one of my websites (which is the one I ordered it under), he asked me what the site was about and then I think he went off to actually look at the site

I've taken a look in my friend's desktop though.. Very strange design... Proprietary designs on all my older desktops as well, the only normal one is my newest eMachines desktop (tower, MicroATX form factor case with ATX power supply... and it DOES have an ASUS motherboard Calimus )

Other than that only ever had to call Packard Bell before... Didn't wait very long at all then.

Except for the odd designs for Dell desktop parts (we have an old Dell server motherboard floating around my work, and that is the STRANGEST looking thing I've ever seen... dual processor PII board (slot 1 processor) ), they're machines aren't too bad. It's their support that really needs work.
post #16 of 56
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Originally Posted by DanFortH
How many more of these "Dell sucks", "Alienware sucks" "Sony sucks" people do we have to endure here? This has all been gone over with a fine toothed comb. For months if not years. If you want the best service, the best parts, and the best price, do the research beforehand. You're more than welcome to visit this forum and many others who can give you no-nonsense opinions from real users. I consider the computer users here to be quite knowledgeable. I'm sick of these newby forum members with single digit posts crying foul after a sucky purchase, and this guy's crying 1 to 2 years later!

And as far as financing goes: I know the print is reeaaal small, but if you read it, it'll tell you everything you need to know about what you're paying! I don't know anyone who uses financing from a retailer who gets a great rate. Target and Sears can have financing that ranges between 18 to 23%! Next time you want to buy a computer, and if you just GOTTA put it on a credit card, consider shopping for an outside source like Captial One or Mastercard and negotiate the best rate you can get.

I love a controversy just like the next guy, but this sh!te is old news.
DanFortH:

Thanks for your invaluable insight and sorry if it inconvenienced you. It may not have helped you but for some of us it actually opened our eyes!

It's becoming all to frequent for conglomerates such as Dell to outsource customer service to save a few bucks. It happened to me the other day, I'd bought a Netgear router but gave up on customer service and sent it back and got a D-link that worked perfect the very first time.
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Originally Posted by srw101
DanFortH:

Thanks for your invaluable insight and sorry if it inconvenienced you. It may not have helped you but for some of us it actually opened our eyes!

It's becoming all to frequent for conglomerates such as Dell to outsource customer service to save a few bucks. It happened to me the other day, I'd bought a Netgear router but gave up on customer service and sent it back and got a D-link that worked perfect the very first time.
Glad you enjoyed my diatribe. The frequency of large corporations outsourcing their customer service is as old as Noah looking for outsourced labor to pick up animal sh!t on the ark. I've called Dell level 1 service and received the same language gap and miscommunications as everyone else. It's quite annoying, but not new. Nor is doing the leg work to find the best interest rate on the financing of a new product, which appeared to be the driving force of AMD4EVER's entire rant.

That chick in your avatar has breast measurements less than 100 x 100 pixels, or 2.9KB (whichever is smaller).
post #19 of 56
OK, here's my secret sauce for buying computers.

Instead of buying a Sony or an IBM, but two Dells for the same price. Give one to your wife/gf, and when one of them breaks, it becomes the spare parts machine. You'll never have to deal with Dell support, you'll always have a supply of parts handy, and if you're lucky, you'll have two nice computers that should serve you well till your next upgrade cycle.

And never pay list price for a Dell. Shoot for 40-50% off. And don't use their financing unless they offer you interest-free payments for a really long time, and then make sure you pay off the balance before interest starts being charged.

And get the at-home service, because I hear they send hot topless babes to work on your computer.
post #20 of 56
WHAT?! Damn they sent me a hairy d00d that was scratching his beer belly.
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