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NVidia Quadro FX Go 1400

post #1 of 23
2/2/05 at 11:52pm
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Hey All,

Any news on this new Quadro card? Do you think it may be an option for the 9860? The new GoBoxx looks just like the Sager....

Here be the links.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18283.html

and

http://www.boxxtech.com/asp/2200.asp


best,
Jed
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post #2 of 23
2/3/05 at 12:38am
They better put the Quadro 1400 in either the 9860 or another new system. The Dell M70 looks like a piece of crap and it cosst a million dollars to upgrade from their starting config. The new GoBoxx looks pretty nice (actually, it looks like the 9860, which makes it nice) and has nice specs (but again, you can get the same on the 9860 for cheaper, except for the Quadro, but that's what we're talking about right now). Who the hell knows when Alienware will update the MJ12m again. They think they're so hot $h!t that they can charge more and give you less. And I just don't trust Eurocom enough to buy from them. Maybe it's because they have never responded to an email when I asked questions about their systems. So Sager and PCTorque, please please please slap a Quadro into a 9860 or even a whole new system (when the Quadro is released, of course. Looks like early March from what I've seen, but I can wait).
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post #3 of 23
2/3/05 at 12:56am
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I can wait too... I have little interest in games but raw power for 3d and CAD work are an absolute must.

The boxx does look a lot like the 9860... I'd be willing to bet it's the same thing. I'm sure it'll be expensive.

j
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post #4 of 23
2/3/05 at 1:24am
The 6800Go and the Quadro 1400Go are probably the same card but with a different identifier in the video BIOS, this has certainly been the case for simultaneous releases of many NVidia game/workstation cards in the past and they appear to have the exact same features.

I believe you might be able to take a Sager 9860 (or other rebadge of the Clevo D900T like the Boxx machine) with a GeForce 6800Go revision 2 card (450MHz GPU, 1200MHz GDDR3 memory) and change the ID of the card to that of the Quadro 1400Go using RivaTuner.

Then you could install the drivers for the Quadro 1400Go and "whalla" same card but from any number of vendors and possibly with a faster GPU/Memory clock (clock rates for the Quadro 1400Go haven't been confirmed yet in any of the sources I've read).
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post #5 of 23
2/4/05 at 5:55pm
Hi,
Like some others on the Sager boards, I'm looking at the 9860 for use as
a mobile workstation. Having the Quadro 1400 as an option (along with the
other two cards) would be great, so perhaps those that want this card could
reply to this thread with a "me too!" If there's enough folks who respond,
it may get Sager's attention...

David
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post #6 of 23
2/4/05 at 6:41pm
andrepeterhill,

Could you, please, advise if RivaTuner can be used to "underclock" a video card to prevent the latop from heating during regular use? I work on my 5680 a lot and I magine if 9680 will be even a little hotter, it will become really uncomfortable. Which card has better potential for "underclocking" ATI or NVIDIA?

Thanks,
Tony.

Tony.
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post #7 of 23
2/4/05 at 8:50pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by aoganesi
andrepeterhill,

Could you, please, advise if RivaTuner can be used to "underclock" a video card to prevent the latop from heating during regular use? I work on my 5680 a lot and I magine if 9680 will be even a little hotter, it will become really uncomfortable. Which card has better potential for "underclocking" ATI or NVIDIA?

Thanks,
Tony.

Tony.
Yes it can, you can also use CoolBits 2 and the NVidia driver panel or PowerStrip or Radclocker to do this, you can find most of these here...

http://downloads.guru3d.com/

or for PowerStrip just google it and pick the first hit on the list.
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post #8 of 23
2/6/05 at 10:54am
So, any new news if the Quadro will be an option?
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post #9 of 23
2/6/05 at 7:16pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Widefoot
Hi,
Like some others on the Sager boards, I'm looking at the 9860 for use as
a mobile workstation. Having the Quadro 1400 as an option (along with the
other two cards) would be great, so perhaps those that want this card could
reply to this thread with a "me too!" If there's enough folks who respond,
it may get Sager's attention...

David
Me too

Looking for (edit: found but not yet purchased from Sager) a mobile workstation for CG work. Í've been waiting patiently for the GDDR3 Nvidia card to come out, which was the most critical thing I wanted. That's finally happened...so the next two hurdles that I really want (pwease!) are a WUXGA screen and a Quadro. If these happened in March I'd be quite happy indeed (and a little poorer, heh). I'd also LOVE to know if either of these will NOT happen for any reason...otherwise I'll just wait.

BTW not many people I know have heard of Sager...when I first heard about them I freaked out. If the above options were available, I think these machines would be very attractive to many (i.e.: any in the market for a laptop) Digital Content Creators. There's no reason that Sager isn't the first thing that DCCers consider when buying a laptop.

Here's hoping...
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post #10 of 23
2/8/05 at 1:28pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by kemijo
Me too

...so the next two hurdles that I really want (pwease!) are a WUXGA screen and a Quadro. If these happened in March I'd be quite happy indeed (and a little poorer, heh).

Kemijo,
Heh ;-) I'm using a low level notebook for CAD/CAM, and saving my
next purchase for around the same time you are. I hope that WUXGA will be
an option, even though I may stick with the next lower resolution for legibility
(it'll still be worlds better than the 1024 x 768 I'm using ATM).

Andrepeterhill, I know of past atempts to make gaming level NVidia cards into
"Soft Quadros", but my recollection is that they're usually a little more
unstable and slower than official versions. Any further thoughts on this,
perhaps with references I can check out?

Thanks.
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post #11 of 23
2/8/05 at 11:45pm
Thread Starter 
I've also heard mixed results with softquadro.

Either way, I took the plunge. I just put in my order for a 9860 this weekend. I'll mostly be doing CAD, 3ds max, and Photoshop... here's hoping that I made the right choice.



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post #12 of 23
2/8/05 at 11:56pm
ME TOO!

though i have to say, i'm pleased with the performance of my 6800 1st revision card using 3dmax7 and autocad 2005. i run a 128mb Quadro 900 on my P42.4 desktop, and i get better results with this 256mb 6800Go on a P43.6.

of course there are other factors in play i'm sure. apples and oranges, i know.

btw, i'm running the 71.80 driver for the 6800.

hmmm, a UXGA would definately be nice!
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post #13 of 23
2/9/05 at 3:02am
Thread Starter 
The larger screen does sound nice. I wonder if it'd make my eyes bleed.

Good to know about the drivers. I'm sure that the 6800 will do ok for most things.

*crossing my fingers and hoping I made the right choice in not waiting for the quadro...

j
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post #14 of 23
2/16/05 at 12:24pm
Would the Quadro 1400 be a good card for games? Would it be as fast as the 6800?
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post #15 of 23
2/16/05 at 2:47pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bathory127
Would the Quadro 1400 be a good card for games? Would it be as fast as the 6800?

My question exactly!

Can it be made into a soft6800 via RivaTuner?
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post #16 of 23
3/5/05 at 10:41pm
Thread Starter 

so sad...

Should've figured that as soon as I bought the 9860 the Quadro would become an option... and this is after I was told that it just wasn't going to happen by a reseller who will remain unnamed.

Humbug.
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post #17 of 23
3/7/05 at 5:33am
Hey Jed, you could be like me...not have a new lappie yet :/ But finally this is another peice of the puzzle...I'll order once the WUXGA is released, I predict in about a month or less.

To anyone considering a Quadro or not sure about it...it's designed completely for 3D graphics and workstation users, to accelerate various things and add new features (max number of lights, wireframe antialiasing, overlay planes, etc...all useless for gamers.) If you aren't SURE it will help you, or that you could certainly use it, it's a waste of money and you should opt for a Geforce (or other). As a matter of fact, the Geforce cards themselves are damn good at Open GL, but the Quadro cards are the only ones on many Hardware Compatibility Lists for various 3D applications (i.e. Maya).

If you're a gamer, don't bother. Even if you're a casual/hobbyist 3D graphics enthusiast, the Geforce card will give you plenty bang for your buck, I have been using a regular Geforce 4 for years and it's fantastic. Seeing as how this is my livelihood, spending extra on a Quadro in a laptop only makes sense if it's not too much more. But in the past I spent $2000 Canadian on a Fire GL once, only for the $300 Geforce cards to come out and smoke it.
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post #18 of 23
3/7/05 at 6:30am
well $300 bucks extra isn't a great fortune in the grand scheme of things, especially where quadro's are concerned so it's no biggie. I'm getting one as it's my livelihood too. The regular GF4's are ok but they still don't always display OGL properly, especially in 3dsMax. They have a habit of drawing things in the wrong order or generally incorrectely. Hopefully the Quadro drivers and better OGL compatibility will fix this annoyance for me. It also helps that I don't game.
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post #19 of 23
3/14/05 at 12:23am
Thread Starter 
True, it has been nice having this laptop. To be honest, the 6800 is a pretty good card. What Smeggy said about draw order in 3ds is what get's me though, I've come across it a lot lately. Perhaps when the cards are more common I can sell the geForce and get the Quadro.

j
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post #20 of 23
3/14/05 at 4:21am
The go6800 and the Quadro FX go1400 are similar.
The go1400 will perform just as fast as the go6800 at the same clock speed.
BUT the Quadro is clocked slightly slower than the go6800 for stability sake. (by default)

I have performance and GPU info charts at my place for those that are interested for both GPU's.

The extra $300 you pay is for the the kick arse 3D modelling accelleration.
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