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post #21 of 52
2/4/05 at 8:22pm
Some more weight info:
- AC Adapter weight: 0.82 lbs
- Primary battery (69 Wh) weight: 0.98 lbs
- Travel battery (52 Wh) weight: 1.00 lbs

The 6.1 lbs system weight includes 8-cell battery, 60-GB hard drive, 512-MB memory, 15.4-inch WUXGA display, 802.11 wireless communications module, and TPM Embedded Security Chip.
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post #22 of 52
2/4/05 at 8:41pm
Thread Starter 
Where'd you get the 1.4"?

Also, I see on its specs it says:

Pointstick (nc8230 only)
Pointstick Buttons (nc8230 only)
Touchpad Buttons (three on nc8230)
Serial Port (nc8230 only)

So, there will be an alternate model that doesn't have all this?

Also the advanced port replicator has an ExpressCard slot and DVI.

The travel battery is 1x3.9x8.7 vs .8x1.9x10.6 for the primary battery. I think this will either a) kick the back of the unit up 1", and covers almost 1/2 of the bottom of the notebook. Or b) maybe the 1" dimension will be right behind the notebook, and extend back like the T42 extended capacity battery. That would be cool.

It is also 1 pound, so laptop+optical drive+additional battery+AC=6.1+1+.5=7.6lbs, If you pick CDRW, it adds another 0.1lbs.

Another observation: The WUXGA consumes less power than the other two. Isn't that interesting?
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post #23 of 52
2/4/05 at 8:57pm
Thread Starter 
I found a pic of the travel battery

http://h30143.www3.hp.com/images/options/PB993A1.jpg

It does seem to kick the back of the laptop 1" which is not what I had hoped. Why the funky shape though?
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post #24 of 52
2/4/05 at 9:10pm
PC Mag has a review of the nc8200 and photos, http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1757556,00.asp.

It looks as if I have found my next notebook. And it comes in black. FINALLY!! The only decision is whether to go with an HP nc6230 or the 8230. I'm a fan of smaller notebooks, so I'm leaning toward the 6230. But, according to the reviewer, the 8230 gets significantly longer battery life.

I can't wait until these go on sale.
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post #25 of 52
2/4/05 at 9:50pm
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Originally Posted by mclassic
PC Mag has a review of the nc8200 and photos, http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1757556,00.asp.

It looks as if I have found my next notebook. And it comes in black. FINALLY!! The only decision is whether to go with an HP nc6230 or the 8230. I'm a fan of smaller notebooks, so I'm leaning toward the 6230. But, according to the reviewer, the 8230 gets significantly longer battery life.

I can't wait until these go on sale.
'Looks pretty nice...

but Still Acer 8104 looks better
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post #26 of 52
2/4/05 at 10:26pm
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There is only .5lb difference between 6230 and 8230, but screen size is 14.1 vs 15.4. I'd go with the larger screen...
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post #27 of 52
2/4/05 at 10:34pm
Yeah, the weight difference is negligible between the two. It's more about the overall footprint for me. 15" notebooks are just too wide for me. I used to own an M6Ne and thought it was way too large.

The 6230 is a much better fit for my needs. But, who knows, pricing could also play a factor between the two.
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post #28 of 52
2/4/05 at 10:38pm


what are those extra 3 buttons above the touchpad for??? seem like they would get in the way....
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post #29 of 52
2/4/05 at 10:54pm
No, it doesnt look sweet, IMO.

Also, it seems as if nobody answered your questions (Sanfran) earlier in the thread, regarding graphics upgradability. Just because it is PCI-Express, that does not mean the gpu is upgradable.
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post #30 of 52
2/4/05 at 10:59pm
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Originally Posted by g0dfr3y


what are those extra 3 buttons above the touchpad for??? seem like they would get in the way....
They're just duplicates of the mouse buttons below. I suppose for those who prefer click above than the touch pad rather than click below.

It does look like they would get in the way of the spacebar though.

One thing I will say, is they could have left that serial port out and put a DVI port there. I guess they figured someone out there still uses serial devices.
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post #31 of 52
2/4/05 at 11:30pm
Thread Starter 
I agree it does not "look" sweet, but I think it will "work" sweet, at least for what I need.

I am comparing to I6000, and SonyFS:

Better graphics than both
Lighter than both
Smaller than both
Not as good looking as Sony, but has the WUXGA I need
Very good reported battery life (better than both?)

Is there any other WUXGA laptop that beats this?
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post #32 of 52
2/4/05 at 11:32pm
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Originally Posted by g0dfr3y


what are those extra 3 buttons above the touchpad for??? seem like they would get in the way....
The additional buttons are for use with the pointing stick. T42/43 also has them.
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post #33 of 52
2/5/05 at 1:33am
I still like the Acer TM8104 the most. It comes in at 6.3 pounds and has DDR2-533 memory, a mobility x700, and WSXGA+. I know it isn't WUXGA, but the video card is much much better.

I should be getting one of these HPs for work sometime next quarter though, to replace my NC6000.
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post #34 of 52
2/5/05 at 6:41am
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Originally Posted by sanfran
Where'd you get the 1.4"?
I measured the thickness of the front and the back in the right side wireframe picture in the quickspecs and translated the result into real life units.
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post #35 of 52
2/5/05 at 3:02pm
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http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/...9186366,00.htm

"the nx8220 and nc8230 come with ATI Radeon X600 graphics, while the nw8240 features high-end ATI Mobility FireGLV5000 graphics ('nw' signifies a 'workstation' model)"

How does FireGLV5000 compare with X700?
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post #36 of 52
2/5/05 at 3:12pm
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http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/hardwar...16039%2C00.htm

"The nx8220 and nc8230 formed the contingent of desktop replacements, targetting SMBs and large companies. Both models feature a generous 15.4-inch widescreen with a minimum resolution of 1,200 x 800 pixels. They include the midrange ATI Mobility Radeon X600, though we would've expected the powerful X800 in HP's high-end notebooks. The difference in the two is seen only in the inclusion of a serial port, a pointing stick and a more comprehensive three-year warranty for the nc8230."
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post #37 of 52
2/5/05 at 3:55pm
Will the nx8220 be available in the US? I don't see it listed on the HP web site.
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post #38 of 52
2/5/05 at 4:13pm
I like it; it's a clean machine. I am unsure how quickly ExpressCard will be picked up; so that may not be a loss in not including it in the unit. It would be nice to have that option on the dock station. As far as Azalia, I would assume that a PCMCIA card would be just as good (maybe)
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post #39 of 52
2/5/05 at 6:08pm
The FireGLV5000 is pretty much the same as the x700 in terms of specs, although it is specced for GDDR3, while an x700 can come with GDDR1-3 depending.

http://www.ati.com/products/mobility...000/index.html
http://www.ati.com/products/mobility...700/specs.html
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post #40 of 52
2/11/05 at 8:03pm
Thread Starter 
Are there any further news about these laptops? All I know is:

1. There appears to be some preconfigured models somewhere on the HP website, http://h71016.www7.hp.com/ctoBases.asp?oi=E9CED&BEID=19701&SBLID=&ProductLineId=430&FamilyId=2075&LowBaseId= 10310&LowPrice=$1,654.00

2. Why is HP not letting us configure ANY of the new sonoma laptops? When you click on customize, all you can add is service stuff, can't change HD size, processor, etc.

3. There are rumors of a ZT4000 coming up to replace ZT3000 (similar 15.4" Pentium M laptop on the consumer line). Are there any solid info available about that laptop?
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