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post #21 of 132
2/5/05 at 12:28am
I will be brave and open it it up. Im assuming they ar samsung chips, but lets find out... BRB
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post #22 of 132
2/5/05 at 12:37am
Vrod quick question even though I added this in another post.. since you have the Audigy 2 zs what site did you have the option to get that at.. I can't seem to find it on discountlaptops,pctorque,sagernotebook.com

am I missing something ? ;_;
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post #23 of 132
2/5/05 at 1:01am
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Originally Posted by hibiki
Vrod quick question even though I added this in another post.. since you have the Audigy 2 zs what site did you have the option to get that at.. I can't seem to find it on discountlaptops,pctorque,sagernotebook.com

am I missing something ? ;_;
I bought it from work. I get them at a discount.
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post #24 of 132
2/5/05 at 1:03am
Looks like they are Samsung GDDR3 chips. But I couldn't quite make out the rest... Its in chinese.
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post #25 of 132
2/5/05 at 1:04am
Lol n/m I found it on new egg for 117$ thanks for the info can't wait to get the 9860 + this card x3 you guys are aweomse
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post #26 of 132
2/5/05 at 1:12am
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Originally Posted by hibiki
Lol n/m I found it on new egg for 117$ thanks for the info can't wait to get the 9860 + this card x3 you guys are aweomse
So you are going with the new 6800?
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post #27 of 132
2/5/05 at 1:14am
I am not that impressed, this seems a little rushed.. something is not quite right. Perhaps the right set of drivers are still being tweaked.? give me MORE POWER!!
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post #28 of 132
2/5/05 at 1:18am
in a way I agree with ambit even though I don't know as much as most, but seeing the specs as high as they were as for clock speeds and such seeing it more high up and over.. it was odd seeing the CS faster yet the results lower o_o;;
I think I"ll wait for one more review.. but if not then ati is a def.. since everyone around me always recommends them via mobile power D:
I mean I'm paying 4k so might as well get every bit and piece of info I can ne?
Been reading here for over a couple months.. <3 you guys
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post #29 of 132
2/5/05 at 1:21am
Lol as for what I meant when I said card ambit xD I meant the audigy 2 Zs.. my bad sorry again for the confusion ._.
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post #30 of 132
2/5/05 at 1:23am
I dont think the cores full potential is being used.Hopefully i am wrong
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post #31 of 132
2/5/05 at 1:24am
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Originally Posted by hibiki
Lol as for what I meant when I said card ambit xD I meant the audigy 2 Zs.. my bad sorry again for the confusion ._.
No need to say sorry. I know you dont mean it( whatever you did ). You sound like a cool person.
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post #32 of 132
2/5/05 at 1:50am
^^;;; sankyuu just kinda excited atm cuz my information gathering is finally coming to an end.. I know what I want when I'm getting it everythings set now just need 2 more info sets and I'm done,,,, 64 bit 9860
and driver specs for the new nvidia.. to see if it really was a fluke or not then I'm ready to set an order date x3

Thanks for the help and I'll continue to keep viewing love the info love the feedback good or bad it helps, you guys are all awesome
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post #33 of 132
2/5/05 at 2:21am
When comparing the rev1 to the rev2, the GDDR3 really gives a boost; about 10% to 20% increase. But at some point the GDDR3, when overclocked, stops becoming the bottleneck & the core then becomes the bottleneck.

You all should know that this memory is the first time anyone, outside of a NDA, has seen GDDR3 700Mhz in action. Pretty impressive, though it's slowed down by the 6800Go core. This is what we're probably gonna see on the R520 in May.

What I'm really interested in seeing is the 6600Go in a T&L. If you look at the fillrate of the desktop 6600GT & the desktop 6800 vanilla they are almost the exact same (4000MT/s vs 3900MT/s; it turns into core speed vs quads, really). The 6800 vanilla (12 pipes, 325Mhz core) bests the 6600GT really only when AA & AF are enabled because of it's 256-bit memory interface.

The general consensus is that the 6600GT outdoes the X700, and I imagine a 6600Go with GDDR3 at 1+Ghz would only be slightly slower than the 6800Go rev2, or on par with the 6800Go rev1.

6600GT vs 6800 vanilla (12 pipes)
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post #34 of 132
2/5/05 at 3:02am
Hmmm. Interesting indeed. I guess the core is somewhat of a bottleneck for the new NVIDIA. However, in REAL WORLD benchmarks it performs the same as the ATI card. So to each his own in making a decision.
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post #35 of 132
2/5/05 at 3:06am
I just finalized my 9860 order with the ATI x800. I must say I am not impressed at all with the nvidia card. I do feel mislead a little, not at all by any of you, but by Sager's web site saying that the nvidia card is clocked at 600 for memory. But I am happy that I finally know what i'm missing

I will probably recieve it on wednesday or thursday, I will let you all know what I think.
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post #36 of 132
2/5/05 at 3:41am
*UPDATE* I just manage to OC my X800 to 490/501(1002) and its running stable. I have not ran 3dMark yet as I am waiting for the newly applied AS5 to settle in. Im also running Omega 4.12 Cats. All this should put me over 4700 in 3Dmark '05 and over 11000 on 3Dmark '03. W00t! I can't wait! Here is a pic of my current OC.

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post #37 of 132
2/5/05 at 4:55am
Quite nice vrod!

The reason I was asking earlier about what the RAM chips show on the module is that the minimum GDDR3 speed offered by Samsung is 2.0ns, equal to 500Mhz. Yet the default RAM speed of the MR X800 is 400-450Mhz. There are no 400-450Mhz GDDR3 chips, not by design, only 500Mhz or higher. So you shouldn't have any problem getting to 500Mhz RAM, since that is their rated speeds, at the very least. That core speed looks a little high, though. I'd run 3DMark03 to look for artifacts (snow, random poly's). Don't trust to ATiTool's internal scanning.

http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semi...K4J55323QF.htm

Fill us in later about how high you got both core & RAM w/ temps along the way, if you would.
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post #38 of 132
2/5/05 at 5:54am
What driver version for the 6800 GDDR3 was used? There's a significant difference in performance between the 6x.xx and the 7x.xx series of drivers.
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post #39 of 132
2/5/05 at 10:05am
This is what I am hoping gave this new card on par performance with the ati.
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post #40 of 132
2/5/05 at 12:06pm
After seeing the performance of the Nvidia card from the old vs new review, there isn't that much difference between the two except in synthetic benchmarks. Maybe there is a driver problem, or maybe the core simply doesn't have that much range.
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