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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Can we expect to see Intel's 600 series (64-bit compatibility/EIST SpeedStep technology) processors in sager notebooks by the end of the month? They are supposed to be released by Intel on February 20th.
post #2 of 22
will current 9860s be able to upgrade to these new processors once its released?
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i don't think so. it looks to me that 500 series is the last to work on the 9860. u see.....a while back adam or luke....don't remember which one....stated that it is socket 775 compatable. we all assumed it would work. intel states that it is 775 compatable, but it wouldnt work with the 9xx chipset. i don't know why this is, but i would guess that since even if u get a 6xx series u need a bios update. a bios update for us 5xx owners would enable em64t on our 5xx series too. intel does not want that to happen. they want the em64t and the 2mb l2 to be the reason to get teh 6xx series with the em64t being the major selling factor.
-this reminds of how intel wanted people to use their prescott chip instead of the one b4 that one and thus would not allow people to enable dual channel on the other chip. they were getting all fussy about companies enabling dual channel on non prescott based systems.

face it.....INTEL SUCKS!
post #4 of 22
the end of the month.
post #5 of 22
so we need just somebody to write us a bios!
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
I was under the impression that motherboards equiped with the 915 chipset would indeed support the new 6xx processors because they are just like current 5XX processors only with the 64-bit extensions enabled (as opposed to disabled...stupid Intel making technology and then waiting to let us use it!). I am pretty sure that a new chipset is not supposed to be released until dual core in the third quarter. I guess we will have to wait and see Intel's official announcement of the 6XX series to know for sure.

Nevermind...

Quote:
The 600 series will work in existing 9xx chipsets, again confirming earlier stories here on the INQ. Intel said the 600 series doesn't require a new software image.
from: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21155

Now it is just a matter of how soon these will show up in a Sager near you.
post #7 of 22
well, if you check on intels website you will find that the 6xx cpu's have no listing for the 9xx chipsets.
post #8 of 22
and if u check the intel website - at the bottom of the page it says that a bios update will be requred for the intel 6xx series to work.
post #9 of 22
You are both right, I was waiting for that chip. Until they moved it from midfeb to the end of the month.
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what do you mean puhed back? are they coming out the 20th?
post #11 of 22
no it will come out at the end of february.
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hmm that really makes me irate....what are they waiting for....

Do you have link for this

thanks
jw
post #13 of 22
will the 64bit have some HT with it?
post #14 of 22
I wouldnt call it 64bi, it just has 64bit extensions. It is not a full on 64 bit processor. It also has a speedstep instruction which is something like the eostep instruction in the 3.8p4 570
post #15 of 22
Like alot of people on this form, I want to order a 9860 but the lack of a 64bit processor and rumors of 64-bit support are holding me back. I have sent e-mails to sager/clevo about any upcoming 64-bit notebooks like the 9860 but both companys have/will not respond to my e-mails. I did however e-mail intel about 64-bit support on the 9860. Here is the e-mail.

I will be soon purchasing a laptop. The one i am intrested in has the
Intel® 915P chipset + ICH6 and Intel® Pentium® 4 3.0/3.2/3.4/3.6GHz (LGA775, 800FSB) w/HT 1024KB On-die L2 Cache (prescott) processor. I know the manufactuer has allowed processor upgrades in this notebook. Is this chipset/motherboard compatible with future 64-bit processors? Does the processor mentioned above include 64-bit extentions?


INTELS REPLY,

Response (Tim McCumber) - 02/09/2005 07:32 AM

Thank you for your recent email to the Intel® Presales Support Team inquiring
about Intel processors.

The system board will support 64-bit. The processors currently do not support
64-bit processing.

If you have any further questions or need assistance, please contact the general
presales line at: 1-(800)-538-3373. Any representative at this number will be
able to assist you.

Now my question is order the 9860 and hope Intel and sager/clevo make a 64-bit processor or wait untill April when hopefully a AMD 64-BIT version of the 9860 comes out?

The system I would order in a heartbeat:

AMD-64 3200-3700+, 17" SXGA+ Screen, Dual optical Drives, Dual Hard Drives (RAID), 4-Speakers & Subwoofer, ATI X800 256MB PCI-EXPRESS, 1GIG OF RAM, and Hopefully 2 Hours of battery life.
post #16 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by terrell
The processors currently do not support
64-bit processing.
You forgot the 3.8. The 570 and 560 do support 64bit extensions. They are not activated though, who knows when intel might allow them to be activated.
post #17 of 22
well, i like this statement from intel as a starter. now to your problem, you can spend the rest of your life waiting for the next thing to come out. lets face it barely anything comes out as supposed! and as you said yourself, you can upgrade it later. there is barely any software at this point anyway to utilize 64bit.
post #18 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by ambitwogunz
You forgot the 3.8. The 570 and 560 do support 64bit extensions. They are not activated though, who knows when intel might allow them to be activated.
So if I order the 9860 I should order the 3.6 processor instead of the 3.4 because the 3.6 supports 64-bit extentions?

I also e-mailed pc torque about 64-bit models of the 9860 and if they are going to add pci-express to the 4750.

Here is their reply:

There is a lot in the works right now for these 2 models of notebook,
but no information that we can release at this time.

Luke McBride
PCTorque.com
post #19 of 22
Well if youre happy with every other component that youre buying, than get the 3.6. Dont give up hdd space or ram for those 2 extra mhz. I got the 3.8 in my order, since I have already witnessed its power in a Everest test.
post #20 of 22
Where did you get the info that the 560 (3.6) and 570 (3.8) have 64bit extentions built in but not activated?
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