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post #41 of 73
2/15/05 at 12:31pm
I completly agree Kent. We need not argue @ssholes. Just because you are wheelchair bound or have nothing better to do doens't make you any more of a gamer than the next guy with HL2 and a dream. Gaming is a part of life, WHO NEEDS A REASON> I believe that NO ONE including myself needs to explain his/her actions unless they do harm to others. So until Gaming gets physical SUCK MY BUTTHOLE.
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post #42 of 73
2/15/05 at 3:31pm
Thread starter, you imply that you are "mature" because you have move "beyond" gaming.

FYI look around at the forum. The majority of the posters here and grads or about to be. The most common job of a forums poster here is in IT. I play an mmorpg that has a 40 year old member, we run Team Speak and trust me he is 40 years old. Is he immature? Mabey we should ask his wife..or his kids....or the 7 people that work under him.

I have been gaming since I was about 5 as most avid gamers have. I hope to be 40 and still have enough upstairs to know what is going on.

I like to game, you don't.....did we need a tread about it?
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post #43 of 73
2/15/05 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by smokedvw
that seems a little BS to me man. At school i see about 2 ppl in classes of 30 with laptops out and these are computer science classes or engineering where I would say the majority of laptops for university students are.
Maybe at the community college you go to they aren't required, but all of the law schools I applied to (10 of them) require laptops. I sat in on at a class at UC Berkeley's law school a few weeks ago and I'd say of the 80 or so people in there, 75 had laptops and the few that didn't had that "I just rolled out of bed and didn't have time to get ready" look to them.

I went back and looked for the TIME article (I have it in print or I'd post the link) and it specifically mentioned the UC system and the Florida system of Universities/Colleges as ones requiring notebooks for the entering class of Fall 2006. It also said that the College Board estimates by 2006 laptops computers with wireless capability will be required by almost all four-year universities. It also stated that many schools are providing notebooks for incoming freshman. William and Mary, it says, by 2006 is going to provide a common notebook for all students, but they haven't decided which make/model yet - due to IT issues the want to streamline it so they're dealing with one model to keep costs down.
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post #44 of 73
2/15/05 at 5:55pm
Colleges requiring laptops strikes me as kind of arrogant. I can imagine the number of students surfing during class. Heck, in business meetings my laptop is a definite distraction what with the easy access to the web and the constant flow of incoming email.

But as gaming goes, its simply nice to be able to take your world with you whereever you go. For me that includes gaming. The fact that my bouncing new Acer 8104 runs the games I play easily as fast or faster than my P4 2.4Ghz with an ATI X800Pro simply amazes me.

No its not an alienware dual CPU dual GPU rig, but its 1/4 of the cost of that as well.
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post #45 of 73
2/15/05 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by katorga
Colleges requiring laptops strikes me as kind of arrogant. I can imagine the number of students surfing during class. Heck, in business meetings my laptop is a definite distraction what with the easy access to the web and the constant flow of incoming email.
That's definetly a drawback to laptops.

I noticed that when I sat in on the law class at UC Berkeley. At the beginning of class everyone was very dilligent and taking notes, but by about the time there was 10-15 minutes left, I'd say roughly 1/2 of the students were playing Solitaire or other card games.
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post #46 of 73
2/15/05 at 6:08pm
One thing to add phoenix78 people play games on there laptops and enjoy it it dosn't harm you in anyway take your Messiah complexe and shove it up your arse.
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post #47 of 73
2/15/05 at 6:14pm
Lmao
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post #48 of 73
2/15/05 at 8:40pm
Maybe the laptop-required universities are common in CA and FL, those places that you speak of, but personally, from looking at a plethora of colleges and knowing numerous students are various colleges in the northeast, I have never ever encountered any UNDERGRADUATE higher education institution that actually required or ended up with most students having laptops. I am talking about ivy leagues, "top tier LACs, "top 25" rated universities, even though rankings are bullshit anyway. It is a very expensive demand and that's why there are an excessive amount of computer centers spread out around campuses for students to access, and obviously for the work students are doing they recommend that they own some sort of computer system but never ever have I heard of an institution that makes any type of computer system mandatory for enrollment. That's just absurd. Maybe the article is inferring that institutions are moving in that direction and they would prefer it to happen but it is too unrealistic of a demand. There are people on financial aid that cannot afford computers too. I don't know what it's like at community colleges but I'm guessing even less people own computers or laptops there.
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post #49 of 73
2/15/05 at 8:47pm
Ivy Leage.. HAH You'd figure people "smart" enough to get into Princeton would know their BS degree is just as good as a BS degree from..... Normal State University. But the guy from Normal State University didn't get bitchslapped to death with tuition costs!
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post #50 of 73
2/15/05 at 8:49pm
besides, laptops are a mobile gaming machine. For someone like me who hates sitting in one place or is really mobile and like to move around from place to place a laptop is the best option. Unless you wanna carry a 80 lbs desktop tower (thats how heavy the tower is for me) + monitor + speakers + keyboards and a portable AC port..
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post #51 of 73
2/15/05 at 8:54pm
There are fair points to both sides of that argument that have been written about to death, it's a matter of taste and affordability, leave it at that or go find the appropriate forums to discuss it. For some people if they fit in and find themselves happy to learn and live for 4 years at whichever institution, then it was money worth spending.
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post #52 of 73
2/16/05 at 4:31am
Phoenix78,

You are entilted to present your opinion and so are the folks ripping your thoughts to shreads.

Daley
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post #53 of 73
2/16/05 at 7:02am
First off-phoenix you need to reread what you have written and mellow out. We are all happy that you are enlitened but enlitenment is different for each and every individual. Gustav-please refrrain from saying that laptops in your opinion do not run ob batteries-that is foolish and makes you sound as rediculous as phoenix. I would like to say this-being a buasiness person who has never gamed but has seeked out the ultimate laptop for over 15 years-i have learned more about laptops in the last 2 months from all of you gamers and people who respond in the forum-even you phoenix. I would like to thank you all. Maybe someday I will see a game being played. I have never seen games played either on laptop or desktop but they do sound fun.
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post #54 of 73
2/16/05 at 7:35am
/start rant

umm ok, here we go...

if you are or want to be good at games and actually like to play them competitively then a laptop is crap.

if you are some noob who plays single player games or just plays games for fun and doesn't care about being good or getting into the competitive side of it then you can be content with your laptop. laptops only really suck when you are considering hardcore/competitive First Person Shooter gaming multiplayer.

the main reason is Frames, which means so much in serious gaming, (edit: i mean SERIOUS gaming, you will know if you are one of these or not so don't assume), Frames Per Second on a laptop is crap b/c you usually play at high resolution with a shitty graphics card and shitty cpu (usually shitty gfx/cpu, almost always super high res), (edit: 30 fps is CRAP to play competitively with. and don't tell me you get 80 fps cause we all know you are staring at a wall or staring at some scenery with none or limited action happening).

laptops will always be behind desktops as far as power for framerate in games go. and this doesn't touch the topic of ghosting for super high movement games.

/end rant
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post #55 of 73
2/16/05 at 8:52am
to fuuny. you are all nuts, including myself. all i know is my handheld calculater still adds, works on solar and the graphics for my text (numbbers), wow puts any ati card to shame. and lets not forget about features-mine even tells time in my own time zone. end
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post #56 of 73
2/16/05 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by Dano1122
you usually play at high resolution with a shitty graphics card and shitty cpu (usually shitty gfx/cpu, almost always super high res)
Not true, you obviously assume instead of knowing. Resolutions are appropriate to the monitor size (how large do you wanna get on a 15", anyway?) and mobile graphics cards are quickly catching up. Cpus always were as good as on desktops. Only the small keyboard can be a problem.

Also, when fps is, say, above ~60, it doesn't matter whether it's 70 or 150 anymore, except in the mind.

Either way, "professional gamers" are in the minority and I doubt it's much of an issue to most people here. Since you use the word "noob" so casually, I'm already convinced that you are indeed part of this "serious gaming scene", no worries there
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post #57 of 73
2/16/05 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by seekingultimate
to fuuny. you are all nuts, including myself. all i know is my handheld calculater still adds, works on solar and the graphics for my text (numbbers), wow puts any ati card to shame. and lets not forget about features-mine even tells time in my own time zone. end
WTF are you talking about.....
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post #58 of 73
2/16/05 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by Dano1122
/start rant

umm ok, here we go...

if you are or want to be good at games and actually like to play them competitively then a laptop is crap.

if you are some noob who plays single player games or just plays games for fun and doesn't care about being good or getting into the competitive side of it then you can be content with your laptop. laptops only really suck when you are considering hardcore/competitive First Person Shooter gaming multiplayer.

the main reason is Frames, which means so much in serious gaming, (edit: i mean SERIOUS gaming, you will know if you are one of these or not so don't assume), Frames Per Second on a laptop is crap b/c you usually play at high resolution with a shitty graphics card and shitty cpu (usually shitty gfx/cpu, almost always super high res), (edit: 30 fps is CRAP to play competitively with. and don't tell me you get 80 fps cause we all know you are staring at a wall or staring at some scenery with none or limited action happening).

laptops will always be behind desktops as far as power for framerate in games go. and this doesn't touch the topic of ghosting for super high movement games.

/end rant
Hmm you call a 3ghz extream edition proc with a gig of ram and a 128 meg video card shitty? I pull over 50fps on HL2 at 1680x1050 during the boat levels, the only reason this laptop is not used in competitions is because of one shitty component. The quality of the player
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post #59 of 73
2/17/05 at 12:39am
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Originally Posted by Dano1122
/start rant

umm ok, here we go...

if you are or want to be good at games and actually like to play them competitively then a laptop is crap.

if you are some noob who plays single player games or just plays games for fun and doesn't care about being good or getting into the competitive side of it then you can be content with your laptop. laptops only really suck when you are considering hardcore/competitive First Person Shooter gaming multiplayer.

the main reason is Frames, which means so much in serious gaming, (edit: i mean SERIOUS gaming, you will know if you are one of these or not so don't assume), Frames Per Second on a laptop is crap b/c you usually play at high resolution with a shitty graphics card and shitty cpu (usually shitty gfx/cpu, almost always super high res), (edit: 30 fps is CRAP to play competitively with. and don't tell me you get 80 fps cause we all know you are staring at a wall or staring at some scenery with none or limited action happening).

laptops will always be behind desktops as far as power for framerate in games go. and this doesn't touch the topic of ghosting for super high movement games.

/end rant
Laptop CPUs are just as good as desktop ones; some laptops even use the same CPUs.

As for graphics, I'm sure most competetive players don't have better than a Radeon X800 Pro. And guess what, the newest mobile chip from ATI is the exact same speed as the desktop X800 Pro.

Besides, most competetive players turn off all the eye candy (Often called playing in "lego land") to max out their framerate, so the speed of their videocard isn't as important.

It seems to me like you don't know much about either laptops or competetive gaming.
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post #60 of 73
2/17/05 at 2:44am
Sounds like Dano and Phoenix are sharing brainwaves, because they both offer opinion as fact. I hate to burst his bubble, but you're not going to see a major difference between a framerate of 70 and one at 150, because the player can't react that fast. At a certain point, framerates become irrelevant because they outpace the reflexes of the player by such a great degree.

BTW, before you go branding us as 'noob's, spell it right: n00b. You'd think that if he was talking in 133t, he'd at least get the spelling right...
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