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post #61 of 73
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Originally Posted by BuRnCyCLE
WTF are you talking about.....
exactly mr. burns. i couldnt have put your quote to better use. i just didnt want to use the same language.
post #62 of 73
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the main reason is Frames, which means so much in serious gaming
Umm not really. The only important fps measure the the lowest one. I don't care if my card can do 300fps in an ideal scene (not that my monitor can handle 300Hz refresh rates at 1280 or 1600). What I really care about are the low scores. Can my system maintain 30+ fps in the most complex scenes possible is whats important to me.
post #63 of 73
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Originally Posted by seekingultimate
exactly mr. burns. i couldnt have put your quote to better use. i just didnt want to use the same language.
Errr...It was directed at you...
post #64 of 73
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Originally Posted by BuRnCyCLE
Errr...It was directed at you...

exactly-once again i couldnt have put it better-- errrrrrrrrr

liten up and open your mind and maybe your intelligence will follow.
post #65 of 73
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Originally Posted by Dano1122
/start rant

umm ok, here we go...

if you are or want to be good at games and actually like to play them competitively then a laptop is crap.

if you are some noob who plays single player games or just plays games for fun and doesn't care about being good or getting into the competitive side of it then you can be content with your laptop. laptops only really suck when you are considering hardcore/competitive First Person Shooter gaming multiplayer.

the main reason is Frames, which means so much in serious gaming, (edit: i mean SERIOUS gaming, you will know if you are one of these or not so don't assume), Frames Per Second on a laptop is crap b/c you usually play at high resolution with a shitty graphics card and shitty cpu (usually shitty gfx/cpu, almost always super high res), (edit: 30 fps is CRAP to play competitively with. and don't tell me you get 80 fps cause we all know you are staring at a wall or staring at some scenery with none or limited action happening).

laptops will always be behind desktops as far as power for framerate in games go. and this doesn't touch the topic of ghosting for super high movement games.

/end rant
I noticed that your sig DID NOT state that you own a laptop. So if you own one please except my apologies because you're ignorance on this topic may be due to lack of a good laptop.

Perhaps you should take a gander at the Travel Mate 8100 thread, you might learn a thing or two. I'm just speculating that you haven't had the chance to play a game lately on a laptop or perhaps you had a bad experience on a dated laptop. Just about any modern game allows you to change the resolution and only a choice few actually bring newer hardware to it's knees I.E. Doom, Farcry etc, etc. Most games will run fine with decent clarity at 1024x768 and provide great fps. My current desktop in my sig gets respectable fps in most games and rarely gets choppy despite only benchmarking 12,500 in 3d mark 01'.
Well, my new Acer 8104 got a semi-respectable 16,500 which I'm sure you'll agree is a decent score given that it is indeed just a "laptop". The new Sonoma platform with faster bus speeds, dual channel capabilities and PCI-E and has ushered in a whole new level of performance that literally left older thin and lights in the dust. Now YOU CAN have thin and light with kick ass performance to boot.
My 8104 has but one minor draw back. It has a built in handwarmer a.k.a. the touchpad that gets warm but never too hot. Every other minor problem I have found has workarounds.

Oh and ghosting is a thing of the past this wsxga LCD is soooo nice no ghosting whatsoever. Have you even heard of Sonoma?

Just my .02 on your post regarding a hardcore fragger needing really high fps to be competitive. No offense to you of course that's why we come to these forums right?...To learn right?.
post #66 of 73
No ghosting for my on either my 8104 or my ZD7000 or my nasty employer provided Dell C600. The only time I have ever noticed LCD ghosting has been on stand-alone panels. No clue why that is.

Granted, no laptop will match a AMD64 FX55 rig with dual GF 6800Ultras in SLI mode and a raid0 array of 10k rpm disks, but neither will your monitor unless you play at 640x480 or some other low rez high refresh rate mode. I guess you could turn off v-sync but the tearing effect is just as bad as ghosting.

FWIW, no "skill" is involved in computer games, its simple hand coordination and pattern recognition.
post #67 of 73
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Originally Posted by ilCacciatore
5. Students
I read, I think in Time magazine, that by around Fall of 2006 something like 90% of 4-year Universities will require a laptop for entering freshman.
hah, yeah right. not even close to 90%. for a guy that's been to two, and is currently enrolled in one, of the nation's best engineering schools and now one of the nation's best medical schools, about 1 in every 100 students brings a laptop to class.

they are actually more of a hassle to have than actually bringing a pen and pad.

but regarding the topic, laptop gaming is pointless unless youre constantly on the move or like it in the living room.
post #68 of 73
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Originally Posted by katorga
FWIW, no "skill" is involved in computer games, its simple hand coordination and pattern recognition.
I would say that qualifies as a skill.
post #69 of 73
Hand co-ordination and pattern recognition will get you nowhere.

For one thing you're leaving out reaction time.

But for another, you've left out the biggest factor of all; strategy. Say you see a player on the other side of the doorway. Do you try to go through it? Crouch near it? Try to go around? Lob a flash grenade through then run through? Lob a frag grenade through to scare him off or soften him up? Call in backup from your buddies? Go a completely different way? Maybe back up and find a higher position that overlooks that door to hit from a distance?

In every situation there are an enormous number of large-scale strategic decisions to be made, and then there are thousands of split-second strategic decisions to be made (Hop around trying not to get hit, or strafe back and forth, or crouch, or whatever).

THAT is a LOT of skill, one that I freely admit I have trouble with despite being what might be called a "hardcore" gamer.
post #70 of 73
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Originally Posted by Guspaz
Hand co-ordination and pattern recognition will get you nowhere.

You insult profesional jugglers worldwide
post #71 of 73
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Originally Posted by lordhigh
You insult profesional jugglers worldwide
Being a good professional juggler doesn't make you a good gamer.
post #72 of 73
what everone else said.... acer travelmate 8104 rules... 6.3 lbs and plays whatever you throw at it... farcry, ut2k4, hl2 --- o did i mention you can play that anywhere - not in one spot. It doesnt replace my desktop with the 6800 and 3.2 p4 but its damn near close. If your a game lover and for whatever reason you travel alot --- why not have a top of the line laptop. especially if you can afford it.

as far as bringing a laptop to class that is a small hassle - i wouldnt bring a $2k laptop to class. I do however take an old Axim X5 Pocket PC with a Targus IR Wireless Keyboard... This costs compairably almost nothing - battery last forever - and takes notes like a badger...? hehe most of them have audio recording capability aswell.
post #73 of 73
Rather than having a gaming laptop, I just happen to play games on a laptop I own for various other reasons...
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