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the i9200 has a wuxga option that is very sparkly (17" laptop screen).

I have yet to see a glossy wuxga from anyone, you can bet the 17" wuxga screens under review is not glossy.

You get that model # of the LCD yet? You may want to do that before assuming anything. If they have the LCD available to be ordered and specs listed I'm sure they know the LCD model number/manufacturer as well right?

@ 50 days waiting time, its not that attractive of a screen. I get my 9860 2morrow, more than enough to hold me over until next spring

I just came up with an idea on how we can also offer the 17" WUXGA LCD glossy. Take the current LCD Sager rejected for having an annoying glitter problem and add a Nushield/plexiglass coating that makes it look glossy, then hire a salesman to tell everyone it's the most beautiful thing he's ever seen .

The LCD Sony uses is physically different than what the 9860 is designed to hold and would require much testing from Clevo to be used here. I'm confident I'd know if this was the case. I get info from many places including one of the companies that sells Clevo their parts/gets their contracts completely unrelated to Sager. It's not likely any new never seen LCD because manufactures don't like to give exclusive/first rights to any company unless they can sell thousands and pay top dollar. The only chance of seeing that is with Dell, Sony, HP and those big guys.

You would think they would let people know the model/brand of LCD they're using here to clear up the questions. I mean if they have the Sony glossy LCD or some new one then I need to know so I can make a news announcement in the general section cause it's big news to me .

I've seen and used a Sony with their WUXGA screen. LCD can't get much better than that screen. It would be too bad if Clevo can't cut the mustard on what seems to be a simple supply and demand issue. But, then again, business is war.

The current WSXGA+ LCD is the best looking LCD I've ever gamed on and it has no ghosting. I think we'd find the WSXGA+ LCD would still be a best seller even if there was an option for the Sony WUXGA one. I can't say if one is better than the other, I think they both are as good as it gets for viewing comparing what's out there, but I've never gamed on the Sony to look for any ghosting. What it comes down to is it's only a 17" widescreen LCD and many are not going to want to run the WUXGA resolution for two reasons: 1) gaming performance at that res is overkill and will destroy your fps in tasking games 2) work and websurfing at that high of a resolution makes text too small for the average user's viewing comfort. They can turn the res down, but we all know LCDs not running @ native res slightly blur.

There is a market for it though and it's something that Clevo and Sager were trying to offer, but so far the test units just were not acceptable as an alternative to the already loved WSXGA+ LCD.

I personally would take the WSXGA+ over a WUXGA in a 17" any day provided they are equal quality LCDs. I run WUXGA on my 23" LCD and it's perfect, but on a 17" some sites and text are too small for me to get used to and I have to lean forward to read things ;P

I don't want to get off the topic though because there are plenty of this res vs that res posts out there. This thread is missing some very important information and that is what is the model/brand of this 17" glossy WUXGA LCD? Why can't that simple question be answered? When I first wondered about this question I was hoping for an answer that would make me reply "ahh, that's a good LCD to be using and I'm glad to see it paired with the 9860 however they were able to get it done", but since nobody seems to want to answer it I can't help but now wonder if the LCD used is the LCD Sager rejected and they're putting a Nushield protector over it to make it look glossy.

Adam, very good point.....I completely agree with you.....It alll sound really fishy to me.....hopefully we'll here some concrete info stating what WUXGA lcd's they are actually using.....

I sent the following message to Hypersonic today:

I noticed that you have recently started offering a WUXGA screen option for
your Aviator EX7 model computer. I am aware of two such LCDs on the
currently on the
market: The one used in the Sony VGN-A600 (and related) computers and the
one used in the Dell 9200 computer.

Is the LCD you are offering one of these or some other model? If it is
another model, would you please provide the model information.

I received the following reply:

The Screen resolution is more similar to the Dell 9200 since it uses active
matrix technology.

I have personally seen both the Sony and Dell screens. The Sony screen is a thing of pure beauty - text is quite legible, colors are superb, etc. The Dell screen is a steaming pile - there are no settings at which it produces reasonable quality images.

Note to Clevo: Get your collective heads out of your collective asses and use the Sony screen. Once people see it, you will not be able to produce them fast enough.

groston,

It's not just a matter of Clevo saying they want to offer an option and getting to do it. The manufacturer of the component may have contracts with other companies that make it hard or impossible to supply another company... I'm sure their heads are in a much better place than some may think .

When Sager rejected the current LCD proposed it wasn't just for what they feel would sell, they have raised their standards and expect better for their consumers. I really do believe that is the case and respect them for that. I think that they explore and act on most every quality option they can get and when and if a 17" WUXGA is available that is up to their standards, I have no doubt they will do everything they can to make it an option for those wanting the WUXGA resolution. Currently though, the WSXGA+ LCD is knocking people's socks off with how nice it looks and performs in gaming. While I agree the WUXGA is an option some could really use, I think there are many others that it's a "the grass is greener" theory that want it.

I'm finding this whole 17" WUXGA thing very interesting. The conflicting information tainted by marketing is very confusing.

Adam,

Based on many posts you have made, I get the feeling that you do a lot of gaming. Thus, for you, the extra real estate is of little value. However, as a manager/developer who multitasks like a mad man, the extra real estate is absolutely necessary for getting my job(s) done efficiently. At home, on my 21" desktop monitor, I use a resolution of 1768 x 13??. I am a real-estate junkie!

What really bothers me, however, is that my current laptop cannot keep up with my current demands. But, I am loathe to spend a pile of money on a new machine that lacks the single critical feature I need.

Not that you really care, but the day after Clevo offers a WUXGA screen that is of the same quality as the Sony, you will have an order from me. Of course, should any other vendor offer a decent machine (i.e., 9860-ish class) with this screen before Clevo does, then they will get my business instead of you.

groston, the Sony A6x0 is quite nice... Not 9860-class but then what is - but at least it is Sonoma-based. I am in the same boat, same reqs as you. Am not buying Sony because of lots of service horror stories, plus... posted this somewhere else but maybe someone here knows:

Can the 9860 drive an external WUXGA LCD? If I can't have WUXGA in a powerful laptop, I would be happy with buying a 9860 and an external WUXGA LCD, like the new Dell 2405FPW. If the 9860 can drive an ext. WUXGA that removes one of my biggest objections (75% of my time is spent working in one place, rest of time I would just "live with" WSXGA on a gorgeous screen...)


TIA