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you bought that for gaming power???

eeh... how a ati9000 can have gaming power??? You really brought this upon yourself... if I want true gaming performance from ati I'll get a 9800/x700/x800. if you would have put a nvidia 5200 in that you wouldn't seen much differences... I mean, if I want to do 0-100 km/h below 8secs, I won't buy a hyundai accent! I'll buy something powerful... you bought low end card, you got low end performances...

anyways in any cases you clearly made a bad choice thinking this laptop was something that it isn't... as for weight... some people have problems with a 10 lbs lappy and some other don't with a 15lbs laptop... depends of you I guess.

anyways enjoy your powerbook ^^

Cut the guy some slack. The sager 5670 is a fairly old model from what I can see. Something like 18 months old. Probably the only choice he had in the GPU department. No MR9800 or Geforce 6800go back then

wow when did you buy that laptop? There's 6lb ones with several hours of battery life that are probably more powerful than that thing out now! Anyway, gl with the powerbook..

I feel that way about my Gateway, and thats 6lbs and a better gaming laptop than yours (in terms of GPU). Guess I dont have it bad.

I had bad experiences with nvidia before, but that was compatibility issues with my mobo (I hope). I prefer ATI, but as long as the cards are good, I dont care.

Hope the Powerbook works out.

Hmm, shooting down an entire company for a bad experience with a single product is a bit harsh.

Yes, I would also like to know how long ago this was purchased. If this was purchased some time ago, the hardware was good for those laptops.

Why are you going directly to Mac's? I personally want to own both, but it seems strange to drop the AMD/Intel platforms, considering the advances in upgradeable GPUs in certain models.


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I think there was the mr9500/9700 which would had given decent performances over the 9000...

anyways even if there wasn't any more power laptop gpu at that time, there was no way an ati9000 would offer good gaming performances. It's not a gaming laptop and there's nothing to add really. If I want long battery life, I won't buy a 9860 because I know that I won't be able to run it over an hour on the battery doing a bit of load on it... that's my point.

Dude, you clearly don't understand. When he bought the 5670 (the third last generation of a now by-gone model) I doubt there was anything better. Back then, it would have handled the best-of-the-best games. Clearly it won't handle them now, but it did. Got it?

I do understand but the thing is that when a lappy only offer you an ati 9000 to run power hungry games you should consider twice... even out of the box, it couldn't perform very well with power hungry games such as nfsu wich I couldn't run maxed out with a 9600 so don't tell me it was the best gaming laptop available at that time... it was a laptop with gaming capabalities, nothing to drool about! If I was to buy a lappy with a 9700, everyone would tell me that it's not a gaming laptop but a laptop with gaming capabilities because now, as the 9000 at that time, the 9700 CAN'T run everything maxed out and it will be pointless to try gaming with it in a year or two... you can't even dare using AA & AF while running games such as doom3 and Half-Life2. Don't talk to me as if I was a kid, dude. You are the kid for giving me a red dot with a blank comment on this one... If you have the courage of your convictions, at least leave the comment with it. Altho I don't agree with you, I won't give you a bad rep point, but hey... if it makes you feel good at night and allows you to sleep, then I'm truely happy that I can serve that intellect of yours.

anyways back on topic, Digitalpro, you'll like your mac laptop ^^ I've borrowed my friend's iBook 12"... weights nothing and very very fun to use. I sincerely hope that you'll enjoy your mac over your 5670... nothing is more lame that having something that can fulfill our expectations.

You still dont get it my friend... at the time that he bought the 9000, it was the equivalent of the x800 today. It was the best of the best, and the newest thing out there. Back then it could play any new game.

nfsu wasnt even in the development stage...

well it was said that it was like a year and a half old model... then nfsu was out (out nov 17th 2003) and so on... but if this wasn't the case and it was a 3 years+ lappy, then I cannot do anything but agree with anyone else. I've based everything I've said on that specific timeframe... so if that timeframe was not valid from the start... then I remove everything that I've said and comply with anyone else ^^

edit: looks like it's pretty much it since I've seen 2002 articles about the 9000... so I'll remove everything, apologize, and replace it all with this:

Your laptop doesn't seems to fit your current need and the powerBook will certainly fit your needs, especially for portability! That thing is small, compact yet powerful and will let you do whatever you want, anywhere you want. I'm using my friend's iBook at the moment and it's almost convincing me to go that way too...
Seems like you were ready for a change anyways so it might be for good

FYI, up to the minute I sold my 2-yr old 8887 a couple of weeks ago, it gamed brilliantly, and many times better than when I first bought it. Admittedly I gamed at 1024x768 without high-end eye candy, but it gamed offline and online without lag. I had a blast. Some of the games I played ad infinitum were HL2, Doom3, Far Cry, BF1942 DCFinal, DeusX IW, DeusX, GTA Vice City, GTA III, Morrowind, and many others. Ya'll argue all you want, but it is and was a very fine laptop.

noooooo...MACs are worse than Dells...they are slower...more overpriced....their screens are small (12"....my...well....is bigger than that)

you do realize that all mobilecards get gpu updates through their manufacturer, not the gpu company ... it's like that because of liability reasons. I do hope that your new comptuer works out though -

Good luck with photoshop and browsing the internet on your new powerbook. I guess good looks are the last thing on my list when purchasing a laptop. But to each his own. Just don't come running back to PC land when you see someone at your school playing Half Life 2 on their shiny PC notebook.....j/k have fun...

Hehe, very convincing, ehh.

Enjoy your new Powerbook, and remember OSX is BSD based, so that is a plus.

As far as gaming, I don't think a Powerbook, even with Linux installed will give you as much gaming choice as an M$ Window$ system.

Btw, the 12" Powerbook has an ATI R9700/64 GPU, so I don't think you can call ATI completely out.


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First of all did you buy it new? If you did, how could you expect the card to continue playing the latest games? That just doesn't happen. If you bought it used, what did you expect. I can't see how you're going to avoid this with the 12 inch powerbook which, the last time I checked had a nVidia 5200. Even with a radeon 9700, that will be hopelessly outdated in six months. That's how things in the computer world go.