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Can someone explain how to oclock 3.2Ghz to 3.5 ghz with CPUcool (or any other progra

post #1 of 20
2/12/05 at 9:40pm
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post #2 of 20
2/12/05 at 11:39pm
I Urge you not to do this since the 3.2ghz presscott cores would generate an uncomfortable amount of extra heat that could lead to hardware failures you would not be cool with.
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post #3 of 20
2/13/05 at 1:24am
load of crap dell! i did it using cpufsb however i don't remember the settings. I didn't want this guy to persuade you against oc'ing. There is no uncomfortable heat but some things do start acting a little whacky. you can easily oc to 3.6 with no heat issues. search the forums for cpufsb and you will find the info you need.
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post #4 of 20
2/13/05 at 2:17am
lol, wardo. "This guy" is our Dell moderator. I'm sure you've had a good experience with oc'ing your Dell, although I would be highly uncomfortable taking overclocking advice from a guy that starts his post with a negative opinion of the computer he OC'ed, and then made the claim that things go whacky when you do open up the front side bus. I prefer extreme heat to whacky computations anyday, but with extreme heat there is usually the coming of critical failure.

Sounds like you would have been just as happy launching your Dell from the rear wheel of an SUV as you would have taking a torch to the CPU.

SirBA, good luck. You've been warned. It's either this guy, or DELL-Machina.

I'm choosing the Terminator.
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post #5 of 20
2/13/05 at 2:40am
Overclocking in a laptop is a bad idea. Pentium 4 prescott processors run ridiculously hot as it is. Without a nice heatsink/fan, overlocking a pentium 4 will leave you with a melted hunk of metal or a horridly unstable system (if you don't raise the v.core). Why again is it that you want to overclock your P4 in the first place? What program will improve markedly from a ****ing 300mhz overclock in a pentium?
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post #6 of 20
2/13/05 at 2:40am
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Originally Posted by wardo
load of crap dell! i did it using cpufsb however i don't remember the settings. I didn't want this guy to persuade you against oc'ing. There is no uncomfortable heat but some things do start acting a little whacky. you can easily oc to 3.6 with no heat issues. search the forums for cpufsb and you will find the info you need.
Ever wondered *why* things start acting 'whacky'? It's called overheating! :0)
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post #7 of 20
2/13/05 at 10:18am
clocked mine 300 more. Heat is within acceptable limits. Do for me
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post #8 of 20
2/13/05 at 11:37am
I wanted to try CPUFSB on my Uniwill, but could not find the specific information for my mobo, etc.
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post #9 of 20
2/13/05 at 11:08pm
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I really appericate to those who answered properly to my question.

Dell-Machina surely knows what he's talkin about and he is our moderator, so I decided NOT to overclock my CPU.

It is NOT that my computer runs slower cause I run everything; games etc.etc. very smoothly with no diffuculty at all! I was just curious about it, cause I've seen people's sigs with @3.5 @3.6 and wondered about it

but anyway thank you for the info
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by the way why you guys think that pentium iv 3.4 ee is still so expensive like 900bucks?
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post #10 of 20
2/13/05 at 11:28pm
You dont have to follow my lead on everything guys its just Ive had personal bad/good experiences with overclocking laptops as well as friends/family/coworkers who had similar experiences. Im mearly suggesting you take extreme caution when deciding to go thru with it even a meager 10-15% overclock on a video card with prolong use can lead to a bad video card which ive seen happen personally to many laptops. If you are planning to overclock having a northwood cpu would be nice since these babies run cool compared to there prescott brothers. as for the pircey EE cpus well there low stock parts that intel can charge whatever they want for and In my opinion not worth anywhere nearly the pricetags they want for em.
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post #11 of 20
2/13/05 at 11:31pm
lol Its kinda silly goin over board on the moderator
hahahahahah
any whooo

even if you would over clock to lets say 3.6 from a 3.2.... I dont think you really will notice much at all.... Its more risk and reward.....
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post #12 of 20
2/14/05 at 7:01am
Agreed, as I was told and have from that time understood, the bottle-neck when say playing games is not the cpu but your gpu, which was the same for me
(is the same).
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post #13 of 20
2/14/05 at 8:40pm
I could OC up to 3,5 Ghz but why. It doesn´t make sense because the performance increase isn´t really noticeable. CD-Ripping is going some seconds faster, benchmarks are the same except for Aquamark.
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post #14 of 20
2/14/05 at 10:27pm
As far as I know the boards on our laptops don't have a pci/agp lock so I wouldn't recommend doing so. That's probably why it's acting(wacky) also remember that when you overclock your cpu by upping the front side bus your also overclocking your memory. Since there is no way to set ram ratio's as far as I know on cpufsb then that would be another wall that you would quickly run into. Does cpufsb let you raise your vcore? I havn't ever messed with it, but I doubt that you could raise the vcore on a 9100/XPS without a hardware mod. In a sense most of the time someone overclocks and talks of a heat increase is more because of having to increase the vcore. I'm sure that the vcore on these mobo's fluctuate to handle load somewhat(aka droop) but I wouldn't trust it to pull down numbers for a stable overclock. Just my opinion.

-Myhre
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post #15 of 20
2/14/05 at 11:12pm
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You guys aren't giving this man the information he needs, you are just suggesting against it. I run with a Prescott at 3.5ghz and it runs at definitely safe temperatures, I have since bought CPUFsb and set 3.5ghz to be loaded on startup. If you games and you notice it is running particularly hot, just set the fans to 4B in CTRL-Z-R.

Download CPUFSB here:
http://www.cpufsb.de/CPUFSB.HTM

Install, restart and then select your mother board as ASUS and P4C800. Do not change the default PLL that comes up. Click on "Fine Tuning" (not set frequency or anything like that); which will spawn a menu that allows you to change your FSB (in turn overclocking your processor and memory [PCI and AGP too]). Due to the afformentioned PCI and AGP overclocking you cannot increase your FSB over 220Mhz without losing sound or adding uneeded instability. A -safe- over clock is 214mhz FSB. I set my FSB so that the CPU clock is at 3.506 or so.

People claim that it is extremely dangerous but I will vouch for the other side. I have often clocked my processor way too high (3.8 and beyond) and it simply locks up and requires a reboot). I will warn you slightly but the risks aren't as dangerous as that of a hardmod.

Good luck!
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post #16 of 20
2/15/05 at 12:41am
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Originally Posted by thomaszak
You guys aren't giving this man the information he needs, you are just suggesting against it. I run with a Prescott at 3.5ghz and it runs at definitely safe temperatures, I have since bought CPUFsb and set 3.5ghz to be loaded on startup. If you games and you notice it is running particularly hot, just set the fans to 4B in CTRL-Z-R.

Download CPUFSB here:
http://www.cpufsb.de/CPUFSB.HTM

Install, restart and then select your mother board as ASUS and P4C800. Do not change the default PLL that comes up. Click on "Fine Tuning" (not set frequency or anything like that); which will spawn a menu that allows you to change your FSB (in turn overclocking your processor and memory [PCI and AGP too]). Due to the afformentioned PCI and AGP overclocking you cannot increase your FSB over 220Mhz without losing sound or adding uneeded instability. A -safe- over clock is 214mhz FSB. I set my FSB so that the CPU clock is at 3.506 or so.

People claim that it is extremely dangerous but I will vouch for the other side. I have often clocked my processor way too high (3.8 and beyond) and it simply locks up and requires a reboot). I will warn you slightly but the risks aren't as dangerous as that of a hardmod.

Good luck!

What about using this method with Northwoods? I know they run cooler, but would it be worth it? (Have a 3.4ghz)
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post #17 of 20
2/15/05 at 1:44am
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i accidentally set the frequenfy to 0mhz then computer freezed and restarted!

and nothing happaned as you can see i am typing here
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post #18 of 20
2/15/05 at 2:20am
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Originally Posted by thomaszak
You guys aren't giving this man the information he needs, you are just suggesting against it. I run with a Prescott at 3.5ghz and it runs at definitely safe temperatures, I have since bought CPUFsb and set 3.5ghz to be loaded on startup. If you games and you notice it is running particularly hot, just set the fans to 4B in CTRL-Z-R.

Download CPUFSB here:
http://www.cpufsb.de/CPUFSB.HTM

Install, restart and then select your mother board as ASUS and P4C800. Do not change the default PLL that comes up. Click on "Fine Tuning" (not set frequency or anything like that); which will spawn a menu that allows you to change your FSB (in turn overclocking your processor and memory [PCI and AGP too]). Due to the afformentioned PCI and AGP overclocking you cannot increase your FSB over 220Mhz without losing sound or adding uneeded instability. A -safe- over clock is 214mhz FSB. I set my FSB so that the CPU clock is at 3.506 or so.

People claim that it is extremely dangerous but I will vouch for the other side. I have often clocked my processor way too high (3.8 and beyond) and it simply locks up and requires a reboot). I will warn you slightly but the risks aren't as dangerous as that of a hardmod.

Good luck!
Good post, thomaszak!
There will be slight differences with individual processors and chipsets etc. that may enable you to get a slightly higher or slightly lower stable FSB.
I can certainly confirm that there are no stability issues at the 3.5GHz level.........but we dont know what the long term effects of the increases will be, just find your own stable level and stick to it......dont push it.
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post #19 of 20
2/15/05 at 3:14am
i have a 2.8 prescott and my stable level is 3.0 ghz... if i tried to go higher i wont shut down properly or jsut freeze up. also why pay for the prog when u can download the crack and use the money for 2 packs of smokes..
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post #20 of 20
2/15/05 at 8:24am
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i have a 2.8 prescott and my stable level is 3.0 ghz... if i tried to go higher i wont shut down properly or jsut freeze up. also why pay for the prog when u can download the crack and use the money for 2 packs of smokes..
Actually, I couldn't find the crack for the latest version or a back copy of the earlier version which did have a crack. Besides I like the program and I don't smoke :-P :-P
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